Orlando Attack...ISIS claims it!

[Hepar]

Thats an opinion. Theres also the very real possibility that even more could have been killed in a dark, loud, crowded nightclub if more guns were present. No?

Impossible. There's no way that someone who just witnessed the death of multiple individuals would react in a highly emotional way if they had a firearm on them.

But for arguments sake, lets picture this. Gunman opens fire in a crowded nightclub. Multiple patrons are carrying firearms. A few of them pull their guns and now start shooting. Now others pull their guns. Would you say that those people could accurately distinguish who is the initial gunman and who are people potential tying to "help" the situation?

Now police show up and multiple people are now inside shooting. Would that make their position easier or harder to them determine who is the perpetrator?

 

[Hepar]

Trying to make liberals understand common sense... might as well :redbrick:

Common sense? This is from someone who is blaming one single person (that is not the person who committed the act) in a country that is very much not a dictatorship for a mass shooting at a nightclub. Let's not go there with common sense.

 

[Hepar]

And for the record, I am not anti-gun. But I'm also not someone who thinks guns are the answer. Taking away guns is no more effective than adding more guns.

 

[On Point]

Common sense? This is from someone who is blaming one single person (that is not the person who committed the act) in a country that is very much not a dictatorship for a mass shooting at a nightclub. Let's not go there with common sense.

I guess we need to go into more detail for you libs to understand, b/c you are correct... Obama is not the sole reason for this. He's 50%. The other 50% is the religion of Islam.

 

[LandCruiser]

Because someone who you disagree with does it too still doesn't make it okay.

This childlike "gotcha" moment people are constantly after is also super lame.

We have an administration that refuses to accept the threat of Islamic terrorism to the point they will deliberately obscure the facts and play a shell game as to how gun laws and republicans are the causes of the Islamic State's war against the West.

This is the same level of sheer idiocy that brings out the "hug a muslim" (who was later arrested on terror charges) crowd after the Paris attacks, while the blood is still being mopped up in the theater.

We'll get white noise about "assault weapons," islamophobia, Trump's racism while being reminded to take more refugees and how Islam's obviously anti-gay stand has nothing to do with this attack--since Hillary wants to toe the line between apologizing to gays and muslims.

Go play a drinking game with how many times they will blame the right, islamaphobia, "lone wolf", "self-radicalized", Trump, etc.

The left is dancing on the bodies of AMERICANS for political gain while criticizing the right's calls for those same Americans to be able to defend themselves.

 

[Hepar]

This is entirely Obama's fault

I guess we need to go into more detail for you libs to understand, b/c you are correct... Obama is not the sole reason for this. He's 50%. The other 50% is the religion of Islam.

Yeah, I'm sorry. No idea where I was confused in thinking you you said it was entirely Obama's fault. I'm dumb.

 

[hikenbike]

I guess we need to go into more detail for you libs to understand, b/c you are correct... Obama is not the sole reason for this. He's 50%. The other 50% is the religion of Islam.[/

 

[ndcent]

Less than 4% of mass shootings in America are committed by Muslims.

 

[4runovertexas]

I really came here to avoid all of this and yet here we are posting to a forum for 4Runners about stuff that has nothing to do with 4rnrs


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[On Point]

Yeah, I'm sorry. No idea where I was confused in thinking you you said it was entirely Obama's fault. I'm dumb.

I didn't know I was not allowed to revise my original statement. I admitted it was half wrong and corrected it. Sane people have no problem admitting when they're wrong, however liberals do have a problem and that is why they continue voting Democrat.

 

[On Point]

I really came here to avoid all of this and yet here we are posting to a forum for 4Runners about stuff that has nothing to do with 4rnrs


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You just joined and this is your first post... convenient. Maybe don't visit the "off topic" area.

 

[Yukon4Runner]

Less than 4% of mass shootings in America are committed by Muslims.

Good point...no point in doing something until it hits 5%!

 

[LandCruiser]

I have a creeping suspicion you are not crazy.

We've heard it over and over again since 9/11.

We were told that Islamic terrorism like Paris is no threat to US soil.

Then SB happened.

Then we were told by Obama, my bad, it can't happen again or in a larger scale on US soil.

 

[Hepar]

I didn't know I was not allowed to revise my original statement. I admitted it was half wrong and corrected it. Sane people have no problem admitting when they're wrong, however liberals do have a problem and that is why they continue voting Democrat.

Actually, I'm an independent. And maybe we should avoid a conversation about sane. Politics, be it left or right tend to lose any semblance of sanity the more extreme to one side or the other you get. Especially when you get those two sides together for an attempt at a discussion.

 

[On Point]

Less than 4% of mass shootings in America are committed by Muslims.

I'd love to know what that number changed to when you take out gang related shootings or shootings where the suspect knew the victims.

 

[ndcent]

Good point...no point in doing something until it hits 5%!

Hey as long as we just ignore the other 95% I don't see why not.

 

[ndcent]

I'd love to know what that number changed to when you take out gang related shootings or shootings where the suspect knew the victims.

Good for you? The topic at hand is mass shootings.

 

[On Point]

Good for you? The topic at hand is mass shootings.

Actually the topic at hand is the Orlando attack. You brought up the "statistic", I merely pointed out the other side to it that is conveniently left out.

 

[Sleeter]

The radicalization of Sunni Islam is the problem.

 

[ndcent]

Apparently Republican Dan Patrick, Lt. Gov is a terrorist sympathizer.

Texas, go figure.

Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick deletes "reap what you sow" tweet after mass shooting at LGBT club - Houston Chronicle