Porter Cable & Griot's

Fortini01

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Well I am excited. Picked up the Porter Cable polisher at Coastal Tools today for $119.00 which I thought was a good price. Placed an order with Griot's yesterday, and the forecast says sunny and 70 degrees on Sunday. With any luck the Griot's products will be here by the weekend and I'll find myself some shade and go to town.
Does anyone have any other words of wisdom that is not in Griot's handbook?

Steve
 
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Steve,

I would just do a search on "Griot's" here and review all the writeups and tips provided, in addition to the handbook, which I break out and refer to everytime I do the clay, polish, wax routine.

It's a lot of work. I've started to stop and rest after the wax application and let it set all night before starting again the next day to buff it out.

You will be truly amazed by the results.
 
Thanks for the advise Woodbert! I can't wait to get started, I just hope to heck the Griot's products get here in time. This 4Runner is my pride and joy and I love keeping it clean. I will be sure to post before and after pictures.

Steve
 
Griot's

You follow the Detailing Handbook and you'll be fine.

Couple of tips:

1) Wash, clay, polish, and wax one day.
2) Lay down, another layer of wax and buff out the next day after sitting over night. Like Woody said, awesome.
3) LOTS of cotton towels to buff so you have a clean place each time.

I got some before and after pics on my website under the photos page of somebody else's rig I did...it is truly amazing.

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Well the Griot's has arrived. Sunday should be the big day for the Runner.

1. Clay
2. #3 Finest Polish
3. Best of Show Wax (setup for 2 hours)
4. Another coat of Best of Show Wax over the setup wax. Haze up and buff it out.
5. Photo Opp with picture post when done.
 
Good deal on Porter Cable?

Can anyone tell me where I can get a good deal on the Porter Cable? I would love to buy from Griots but it's too darn expensive.

Also, should I go with Griot's pads or can I get them somewhere else?
 
Re: Good deal on Porter Cable?

molocono said:
Can anyone tell me where I can get a good deal on the Porter Cable? I would love to buy from Griots but it's too darn expensive.

Also, should I go with Griot's pads or can I get them somewhere else?

Lowe's or Home Depot for around $100.

Use the Griot's pads for sure and get more than 1 of the polishing and waxing pads as if you tear one you'll want a spare so you don't get stuck and can't finish!

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I heard that if you buy the Porter Cable from Lowes it doesnt come with the backing plate and would then need to buy that from Griots. Is this true?
 
Re: Good deal on Porter Cable?

molocono said:
Can anyone tell me where I can get a good deal on the Porter Cable? I would love to buy from Griots but it's too darn expensive.

Also, should I go with Griot's pads or can I get them somewhere else?

You are going to love it......can't wait to see the pics.
 
Re: Re: Good deal on Porter Cable?

waskillywabbit said:
Lowe's or Home Depot for around $100.

Use the Griot's pads for sure and get more than 1 of the polishing and waxing pads as if you tear one you'll want a spare so you don't get stuck and can't finish!

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I'm totally new about detailing, please advise

I've just bought the PC 7336SP at Lowe's. I need a backing plate, polishing and waxing pads. At Griots, I found the following items:

1) 10625C 6" Backing Plate For Porter Cable Orbital
2) 10626 Orange Foam Polishing Pad
3) 10628 Red Wax Pad

are these the right products for my situation: honda civic 00 and honda accord 99(lots of scatches and swirls) and 4runner 04(new but will do in near future).

How many of each item should I buy?

I am still confused about using PC for waxing. Does it use for applying wax on paint or buffing the wax?
 
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Re: Re: Re: Good deal on Porter Cable?

linhsy said:
I'm totally new about detailing, please advise

I've just bought the PC 7336SP at Lowe's. I need a backing plate, polishing and waxing pads. At Griots, I found the following items:

1) 10625C 6" Backing Plate For Porter Cable Orbital
2) 10626 Orange Foam Polishing Pad
3) 10628 Red Wax Pad

are these the right products for my situation: honda civic 00 and honda accord 99(lots of scatches and swirls) and 4runner 04(new but will do in near future).

How many of each item should I buy?

I am still confused about using PC for waxing. Does it use for applying wax on paint or buffing the wax?

I get all my pads from www.properautocare.com . The Lake Country pads rock!

I use the following:
1. 6 inch Flexible Backing Plate for DA Polishers FBP-6DA
2. Advanced, 7.5 inch, Foam Pads for D-A and circular polishers.

Use the PC to apply the wax very sparingly with a LC gray pad and then use a Viper or Mullet Wax Microfiber towel to buff the wax by hand. I use a Microfiber bonnet on the PC after the hand buff to make sure I didn't miss anything.
 
Thanks momo.75 & 405HP_Z06 for the good direction ! I did read the detail's handbook from griots. I does help a lot for the beginner like me. I also check out couple backing plate and pads online including the advance 7.5" inch pad at www.properautocare.com. After do some research, I decide to purchase the brand new type of pad called "Edge DA 2000 foam pad" which doesn't require the backing plate. It has double sides and automatic center by itself. I give it a try.
 

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linhsy said:
Thanks momo.75 & 405HP_Z06 for the good direction ! I did read the detail's handbook from griots. I does help a lot for the beginner like me. I also check out couple backing plate and pads online including the advance 7.5" inch pad at www.properautocare.com. After do some research, I decide to purchase the brand new type of pad called "Edge DA 2000 foam pad" which doesn't require the backing plate. It has double sides and automatic center by itself. I give it a try.

Edge pads are good. It's a toss up between Edge and Lake Country. Next time I buy pads, it will be the Edge.
 
Pads

I'm going to buy the Porter Cable from Lowes and I have a question about the pads I should get from Griot's. Do I need to get the pads with holder (polish, wax, and clay) or will the normal pads work?

Also, this is my first time waxing my vehicle, do I need to do the whole 'wash with dishwashing soap' procedure?
 
Re: Pads

molocono said:
I'm going to buy the Porter Cable from Lowes and I have a question about the pads I should get from Griot's. Do I need to get the pads with holder (polish, wax, and clay) or will the normal pads work?

Also, this is my first time waxing my vehicle, do I need to do the whole 'wash with dishwashing soap' procedure?

You aren't going to need the pad holder if you are going to use the PC. The holder is to use the large pad by hand. Make sure you have a backing plate. I didn't see it listed on the Griots site, but if you search it comes up (part no. 10625C). You need one orange pad for each polish you buy and a red pad to wax. I'd like to have a couple of their mini pads and holders, but you can use a terry towel or foam applicator. I know Griots has a clay holder for the PC, but I do it by hand.

*I* don't use dawn or any dishwashing soap, some do. I think the polish strips off any old wax.
 
Hi molocono, here is what I learn from others:

If you buy PC 7336SP, it doesn't include the Velcro backing plate. Hence, you have to purchase the backing plate along with the pads for cutting compound/polishing/glaze/wax/sealant. All of these mean that pads with holder is better choice. Because you only need to replace the pad and keep the backing plate. Otherwise, you have to throw away the pad & the "permanently attached" back plate every time a pad wears out.

Click Here for detail.

for clay holder click Here for suggestion.

Coastaltool.com has good deal of PC 7224 since it will include 6" backing plate.

Some brand new car has been waxed by the dealer. If you car is above 3 month old and you want to start from beginning. Then you can go head with dawn (dishwashing soap) to trip off the old wax. some says since dawn is used for trip off grease (oil) and wax is one kind of oil so it will do just fine. Other says dawn is not designed for car's paint, it is so harsh and will dull your paint if you use it often. So, using dawn 3 times a year for removing wax only is safe.

Other alternative, you can use paint cleaner, Meguiar's APC+ that they suggest diluting to 1:64 (with water, of course) for "de-waxing". Any polish with cleaning property wil also strip off the wax (not much though), except Zaino doesn't have the cleanning property.

Here is what I do:

1)Wash (Dawn(only if to remove old wax)/regular car wash shapoo)
2)Clay
3)Wash (to clean all residues from clay) - if you want it to be perfect.
4)polish (if necessary to remove swirls or scratches) - always choose less abrassive products first then move up if needed.
5)wax/sealant


Hope this will help...BTW, you should read the detail-book from griots...I did and learn quite a lot from that.
 
Re: Re: Pads

1999ncsu said:
Make sure you have a backing plate. I didn't see it listed on the Griots site, but if you search it comes up (part no. 10625C). You need one orange pad for each polish you buy and a red pad to wax. I know Griots has a clay holder for the PC, but I do it by hand.

*I* don't use dawn or any dishwashing soap, some do. I think the polish strips off any old wax.

The PC backing plate is a must have. Just get the (3) pad set of each of the red wax pads and the orange polish pads. The pads wash out with soap and water, so you can use them as you wish, but it's good to have extras as I've torn a few over time and they just wear out.

Get the clay bar holder for the PC as it makes life so much easier. I can clay the whole rig in like 20 minutes.

Use the dish washing detergent to wash it as it just gets all the gunk off your rig for one and two it does strip off all the old wax so you can polish it properly.

Do it right and not lazily skipping steps and you will be rewarded with a glow in the dark shiny rig like this!

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