On my SR5 V6 4x2, it is much easier to get through mud/etc. with the traction control turned off. With it out as soon as i get in some mud it won't barely let me move because it senses loss of traction and automatically tries to decelerate until it regains traction, but it can't... Luckily on the V6 you had a button to turn it off, as long as you are going under about 20mph, or it will just come on by itsef. With traction control turned off I can rev as much as I want, until I can get enough wheelspin to regain traction. So in off-roading, espescially on 4x2s, the traction control works against you.
Re: Love or Hate VSC?
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Bluto
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1.) Get better tires.
2.) Learn the way VSC operates. The more aggressive you are, the more VSC will interene. You can push it, just know when to back off the throttle.
I think the major intention of VSC is to assist in the highest risk/injury situations - moving at speed.
In low speed, low traction, I've had VSC help, and sometimes I need to turn it off.
2.) Learn the way VSC operates. The more aggressive you are, the more VSC will interene. You can push it, just know when to back off the throttle.
I think the major intention of VSC is to assist in the highest risk/injury situations - moving at speed.
In low speed, low traction, I've had VSC help, and sometimes I need to turn it off.
boston_kevin
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Tires!!
First thing if I were going through deep snow regularly, I'd change to Revos or Blizzaks. Dunlops are not the greatest in snow.
Second, how many times are you going through deep snow? Maybe you need to retrofit the truck with ARB Air lockers front and rear to eliminate any VSC interference at all (then again, you need the better tires to get the best effect)
I have taken my V6 runner through 32" of powder without any problems, and about 12" of slush with some difficulty (moslty due to the dunlops). Locking the center diff causes the runner to apply equal spin to all wheels (my experience) which allows me to move in situations where the VSC interferes.
As far as dealer experiences... When I got my first Jeep about 15 years ago, the dealer said, "Whatever you do, don't use 4WD on the pavement, it is only for off-road use. Oh, and if you go off-road and something gets damaged, you will violate the warranty..." Makes sense doesn't it? Don't use 4WD and don't go off-road? So I asked why the 4WD was there in the first place... He said, "Because it's a Jeep!" Some dealers have no clue...
First thing if I were going through deep snow regularly, I'd change to Revos or Blizzaks. Dunlops are not the greatest in snow.
Second, how many times are you going through deep snow? Maybe you need to retrofit the truck with ARB Air lockers front and rear to eliminate any VSC interference at all (then again, you need the better tires to get the best effect)
I have taken my V6 runner through 32" of powder without any problems, and about 12" of slush with some difficulty (moslty due to the dunlops). Locking the center diff causes the runner to apply equal spin to all wheels (my experience) which allows me to move in situations where the VSC interferes.
As far as dealer experiences... When I got my first Jeep about 15 years ago, the dealer said, "Whatever you do, don't use 4WD on the pavement, it is only for off-road use. Oh, and if you go off-road and something gets damaged, you will violate the warranty..." Makes sense doesn't it? Don't use 4WD and don't go off-road? So I asked why the 4WD was there in the first place... He said, "Because it's a Jeep!" Some dealers have no clue...
Hey,
I would put Blizzaks on the truck in a second if I could find a steel wheel that would fit. I had Blizzaks on Steel wheels on my previous Pathfinder. (I still have them)
I have the X Terrain on the truck now and I find them to be one of the better all season tires in the snow.
I do know how the VSC operates I just don't think at low speeds it makes any sense. The purpose of the VSC is to keep the truck stable in unstable situations. I can't see why at a walking pace it needs to interveen with the ATRAC so much that it stops me dead in my tracks. It is not like I'm going to spin out of control doing 1 MPH.
I just think it could be better.
Cheers,
I would put Blizzaks on the truck in a second if I could find a steel wheel that would fit. I had Blizzaks on Steel wheels on my previous Pathfinder. (I still have them)
I have the X Terrain on the truck now and I find them to be one of the better all season tires in the snow.
I do know how the VSC operates I just don't think at low speeds it makes any sense. The purpose of the VSC is to keep the truck stable in unstable situations. I can't see why at a walking pace it needs to interveen with the ATRAC so much that it stops me dead in my tracks. It is not like I'm going to spin out of control doing 1 MPH.
I just think it could be better.
Cheers,
boston_kevin
New member
VSC is the best system for the unexperienced driver
MacVay - I agree with you that the VSC interferes too much some times... I think it is due more to the Dunlops that the actual system, but I think someone said it best earlier... VSC is designed for the average driver who is driving on snowpacked roads (or icy) and doesn't venture off road. I think Toyota put in the Diff Lock for the more experienced drivers to disable the safety system.
MacVay - I agree with you that the VSC interferes too much some times... I think it is due more to the Dunlops that the actual system, but I think someone said it best earlier... VSC is designed for the average driver who is driving on snowpacked roads (or icy) and doesn't venture off road. I think Toyota put in the Diff Lock for the more experienced drivers to disable the safety system.
TechWrench
Senior Member
Hitman said:
I guess I would have to agree. To this day, Japanese manuals still suffer from poor wording choices in the translation to english.
