**Rear Coil Spring Discussion - The Perfect 3rd Gen Rear Spring**

[Dieselchessy]

I'm running the 890's with tundra billstein in the rear. Fits very well with the Tundra TRD's on Tundra billstein first clip up front, just a slight rake.

Problem with the 890's is that with any weight (3 teens in the back seat or 300# of pig feed or camping gear for a weekend) the back sags down to just below level and it sways and bobs fairly noticeably.

I may go back to air bags or try the 891's. Haven't decided yet.
891 are reported as a 210# spring rate and .63 diameter coil.
they need to make a 200# 890.5 coil.

OME 2890 190 .591
OME 2891 210 0.63
OME 2906 220 .669

 

[skiyota76]

Struts with Dobson's vs 891

Hey, so it's been a week with the Dobinsons and so far I like them a lot! Now, I am waiting on some Bilstein 33-187174 shocks from 4Wheelparts and bump stops from Sonaoran Steel, so I haven't been off road yet. The shocks have been sitting at a dock in Dallas for over a week and I wish I could just drive over there and pick them up. I should get a call any day now. They feel a bit like the 891 coils if not slightly stiffer and seem to handle my bumper, spare, hi-lift, jerry can and recovery gear (maybe around 330 lbs.) even better! I run without the stabilizer bar and with the extra 2 inches of lift there is slightly more body roll when turning. With the 891's and the 10mm trim pieces it was at 22.5". With the 210v's and no 10mm trim pieces it's at 24.5". both with the internal cone bump stops. The blue looks great, too!

Which struts were you running with OME 891. I have a similar rear set up. And I am looking at new Icon 2.5 for my front as well with my bumper and winch

 

[ClimbsTrees]

Bilstein 24-100144 with the 890's and 891's. Been waiting for my second 33-187174 to come in for a month or more now. Just one lonely strut sittin' in a garage...

 

[ClimbsTrees]

Shoulda gone with the Tokicos.

 

[Devbot]

Just installed my rear half of the lift today, with my 210v and Tokicos. Man, is it a lot of lift without any weight. Definitely gonna have to pick up some sandbags until I snag a rear bumper. Kinda wishing I went with the 675v coils, but I vaguely remember something putting me off about them. Didn't fit, maybe? Too lazy to look it up lol
Boy let me tell you, getting those rear shocks out was impossible, especially with the gas tank in the way. Ended up taking a sawzall to the old ones since they were smoked anyways, made life a bit easier :rockon:
Anybody know where to get sandbags? Lowes/Home Depot?

 

[ClimbsTrees]

80 lbs bags of quickrete from home depot for $4.50. 3 or 4 would compress the top of the coils and mimic a bumper with tire carrier.

 

[Devbot]

TRD/Tundra 5100 + 210v/Tokico Blacks
Might forego the sandbags, kinda like how she sits as is!
I put the taller 210v on the drinkers side since I had typical toyota lean, but someone my passenger rear is now slightly taller? By slightly I mean just under 1/8in, but still odd

 

[Endlessblockades]

TRD/Tundra 5100 + 210v/Tokico Blacks
Might forego the sandbags, kinda like how she sits as is!
I put the taller 210v on the drinkers side since I had typical toyota lean, but someone my passenger rear is now slightly taller? By slightly I mean just under 1/8in, but still odd

Elevation Sensation!

 

[Devbot]

Elevation Sensation!

Indeed so! Loads of clearance now. The rear's a little high for my taste, but I loaded it up with 200lbs of concrete to simulate a bumper and it sat perfect, so I'm pretty excited to grab one. The rake isn't horrible either, can't see it from my driveway but I got about an inch or so? Just enough to give it an aggressive stance without being ridiculous. Of course, can expect some settling
All in all, very happy. I take the backroads all the way to work, and while I beat traffic by a mile they used to be hell to drive on at times - now I eat up all the bends, bumps and cracks it throws at me :biggrin2:

 

[ClimbsTrees]

Hey, looks great! How soon 'till you get the bumpers?

 

[Devbot]

Hey, looks great! How soon 'till you get the bumpers?

Have the front, gonna get the rear asap once I can afford it. Last expensive mod I wanna do to this car so I'm keen to get it off the list!

 

[Endlessblockades]

Have the front, gonna get the rear asap once I can afford it. Last expensive mod I wanna do to this car so I'm keen to get it off the list!

Rock sliders are only '1/2 expensive'......

 

[Devbot]

Rock sliders are only '1/2 expensive'......

They are but I have no reason for them, I'll never put myself in a position that'll warrant them. Probably will get skids eventually just to help protect the undercarriage, though sliders would look good with tube bumpers in both front and rear

 

[thezentree]

They are but I have no reason for them, I'll never put myself in a position that'll warrant them. Probably will get skids eventually just to help protect the undercarriage, though sliders would look good with tube bumpers in both front and rear

Not to further derail the thread but sliders have saved my ass far, far more times than bumpers have. If you’re ever going to play in the rocks, get sliders. They’re cheap.

 

[Endlessblockades]

Not to further derail the thread but sliders have saved my ass far, far more times than bumpers have. If you’re ever going to play in the rocks, get sliders. They’re cheap.

(Danger - temporary derailment ahead):

Yep, and they protect one of the most vulnerable and difficult to repair parts of the truck. I am getting sliders before I get armored bumpers (unless someone has a killer deal on used gear in NorCal).

 

[raztec]

I've got a '98 4Runner and I often carry people up into logging roads.

Can someone tell me what the difference in loading is between the rear OME coil springs: 2890, 2891, 2906? I'd like something that won't sag or bottom out with weight, but not too stiff when empty.

Also, what would you guys suggest for the front coil springs? 2880 or 2881?

Finally, for shocks and struts, it seems like most people choose Bilsteins. However, wondering why it wouldn't it make sense to go with the OME ones for better compatibility with the springs?

Thx

 

[Wikano]

ACDelco 45H2131 Professional Rear Coil Spring Set
Amazon.com: ACDelco 45H2131 Professional Rear Coil Spring Set: Automotive

This has been the best rear spring setup I have had with stock weight. I have had OEM setups that were never controlled well by the 5100's without significant weight in the back. It has the lift of the 99 tall and a variable rate coil (progressive?). This, paired with the Bilstein 5100's digressive valving, has been a great feel. I did have to add a 1" spacer when I upgraded to 2" Toytec lift but the feel is still great.



-Premium, high-quality aftermarket component
-Manufactured to meet and exceed your expectations for fit, form, and function
-Variable Rate coil springs provide 500 lbs. (per pair) of load capacity (Not to exceed GVWR). Product does not increase payload.

Load Rate Rear 780
Wire Diameter 0.630"
Load Rate Rear 354
Rear Spring Inside Diameter 4.7"
Spring Rate Rear Variable
Rear Spring Relaxed Length 16.2"
Spring Material Steel
Rear Spring Seat Included No
Spring Color Black
Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 19241781

 

[raztec]

For the OME coil springs, I think I figured it out:

Rear:

2906 - medium load
2890 - heavy load 330lbs to gvw
2891 - heavy constant load 660lbs to gvw

Front:

2880 - stock 0- 110lbs
2881 - heavy 110lbs - 240lbs

 

[Mark_BC]

I think I figured it out:

Rear:

2906 - medium load
2890 - heavy load 330lbs to gvw
2891 - heavy constant load 660lbs to gvw

Front:

2880 - stock 0- 110lbs
2881 - heavy 110lbs - 240lbs

How much lift will the 906 give? I only want around 1" max.

 

[raztec]

Anyone have any experience with the complete Dobinson's kit?

Dobinsons 2.0" Lift Kit for Toyota 4Runner 1996 to 2002 3rd Gen – Dobinsons Direct

Thanks
R