Revos vs. Snow Tires?
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ToolmanJohn
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Pretty Sure All-Season
I think the Revo's are an All-Season tire, anyone who has them can correct me if I'm wrong. I think there are a couple of styles.
a3fnqpjw said:
I think the Revo's are an All-Season tire, anyone who has them can correct me if I'm wrong. I think there are a couple of styles.
Northof49
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No M&S tire will be as good as a dedicated snow tire for snow and ice, such as the Blizzak's ToolmanJohn posted. 4 Blizzaks + 4Runner = you could be driving on an NHL ice-rink and it would feel like wet pavement. Blizzaks on a 2wd vehicle make it feel like a 4x4; Blizzaks on a 4wd vehicle make winter driving completely boring.....they really are THAT good.
That said, on a vehicle like a 4Runner, you really can get away with a lot less if you wish.....as evidenced by my driving 2 winters on OEM Dunlops with no issues. Hence, REVO's or other A/T type tires are obviously much better at, well, everything than the Dunlops, so no doubt they could be run in the snow with sucess also.
It all boils down to what you want, what you want to spend, and how many sets of tires/rims you want floating around the homestead
That said, on a vehicle like a 4Runner, you really can get away with a lot less if you wish.....as evidenced by my driving 2 winters on OEM Dunlops with no issues. Hence, REVO's or other A/T type tires are obviously much better at, well, everything than the Dunlops, so no doubt they could be run in the snow with sucess also.
It all boils down to what you want, what you want to spend, and how many sets of tires/rims you want floating around the homestead
charlier180
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PapaSmith said:
I too used my Dueler H/Ts last winter here in Eastern Pennsylvania. I had no problem what-so-ever going up steep hills in 8-10 inches of snow. Cornering and stopping with these tires was a different story and required one to be VERY careful.
A few weeks ago I got a set of 16 inch steel wheels at a very good price. A couple of days ago I had a set of 245/75/16 Blizzak DM-Z3 tires mounted on the steelies. When the forecast calls for the first significant snowfall I will be mounting the set of winter tires on my 4Runner.
FYI, when the tire place mounted the Blizzaks on the steelies the Blizzaks popped like a large gun going off and that was when the tire had only 10 pounds of air in it. The tires guys said all the large Blizzaks make quite a noise when the tire is seating on the wheel.
Bobby
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The best snow tires are Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
I got rid of my Dunlops at ~7k miles with 1 winter. I snowboard so I've been up to VT and a lots of local ski resorts with my 4runner on Dunlops and they did very well but I keep hearing they go away after about 10-15k miles so I didn't want to take a chance. I replaced them with Revos (265/70-17) and they're great. There is a slight increase in road noise but you wouldn't notice unless you have your windows down and the radio off. They're quiet and handle great on dry and wet roads. I don't have any experience with them in the snow yet but looking at the tread, I don't think I will.
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Personally, I don't see a need for dedicated winter tire for a 4x4, expecially a 4runner. If you're spinning with stock tires, you really need to look at your driving style and realize there's slippery stuff on the ground. Nothing will help someone that mashes the gas or cuts the wheel hard in snow/ice except studded tires. I've driven in snow/ice most of my life and when I slide, it's because I drove too fast for the conditions. Don't expect your 4runner to magically have super powers just because you put on snow tires. Yes, they'll help but they won't prevent slides.
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And yes, I've used snow tires before.
I got rid of my Dunlops at ~7k miles with 1 winter. I snowboard so I've been up to VT and a lots of local ski resorts with my 4runner on Dunlops and they did very well but I keep hearing they go away after about 10-15k miles so I didn't want to take a chance. I replaced them with Revos (265/70-17) and they're great. There is a slight increase in road noise but you wouldn't notice unless you have your windows down and the radio off. They're quiet and handle great on dry and wet roads. I don't have any experience with them in the snow yet but looking at the tread, I don't think I will.
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Personally, I don't see a need for dedicated winter tire for a 4x4, expecially a 4runner. If you're spinning with stock tires, you really need to look at your driving style and realize there's slippery stuff on the ground. Nothing will help someone that mashes the gas or cuts the wheel hard in snow/ice except studded tires. I've driven in snow/ice most of my life and when I slide, it's because I drove too fast for the conditions. Don't expect your 4runner to magically have super powers just because you put on snow tires. Yes, they'll help but they won't prevent slides.
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And yes, I've used snow tires before.
RonMAIDEN
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I lived up in the mountains outside Denver for 5 years with my AWD Eclipse as my daily driver and I never had snow tires on it,just solid all -seasons got me around fine. Yeah,snow tires would have been better but not for the cost. An all season or most all terrain tires are fine in the snow on a 4wd.
TechWrench
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Re: Pretty Sure All-Season
I guess it depends on what your definition of an 'all season' tire is. In an earlier life, I used to sell tires, and at that time an all season tire was specifically designed as a passenger tire primarily designed for front wheel drive vehicles. The tread pattern was designed with many small tread cuts to enhance the gripping ability in inclement weather. It was considered an economic compromise between strictly 'summer' road tires and the 'snow' tires most people used to have to install each winter on rear wheel drive vehicles. By virtue of their design, 'snow' tires were not recommended for all-year round use because they didn't provide the same level of traction on dry roads as 'summer' tires did, and they usually were noiser and wore out faster. As I remember it, all season tires evolved about the same time as front wheel drive became popular because putting 'snow' tires on the front wheel drive vehicle often led to customer complaints of poor steering and excessive vibration. In my experience, once an all season tire was about 1/3 worn, the many small tread cuts that gave it its traction advantage were gone, and the tire no longer performed like it was new.
IMHO, there is no substitute for a well designed winter tire for winter use. I also firmly believe that one should have two sets of tires, one for each season (again my opinion). I also understand that not everyone is willing or able to invest in the additional cost to have dedicated tires for each season. That is an individual choice. I think one should assess what they intend to use their vehicle for, and then decide what type of tire or tires best suit their needs.
So, IMHO, the A/T type of tire is not an all season tire by my definition. That doesn't mean one can't choose to use them all year round, if you intend to go off road all year round or you just like the look of them. I also admit that there are probably better 'pure' winter traction tires that the A/T REVO, but they will not also funtion as well as the REVO in off road use. Since all my off roading is done in late fall and winter during hunting season, I feel the REVO is the best all around A/T winter tire I have used. The rest of the year, the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/Ts work fine for me.
ToolmanJohn said:
I guess it depends on what your definition of an 'all season' tire is. In an earlier life, I used to sell tires, and at that time an all season tire was specifically designed as a passenger tire primarily designed for front wheel drive vehicles. The tread pattern was designed with many small tread cuts to enhance the gripping ability in inclement weather. It was considered an economic compromise between strictly 'summer' road tires and the 'snow' tires most people used to have to install each winter on rear wheel drive vehicles. By virtue of their design, 'snow' tires were not recommended for all-year round use because they didn't provide the same level of traction on dry roads as 'summer' tires did, and they usually were noiser and wore out faster. As I remember it, all season tires evolved about the same time as front wheel drive became popular because putting 'snow' tires on the front wheel drive vehicle often led to customer complaints of poor steering and excessive vibration. In my experience, once an all season tire was about 1/3 worn, the many small tread cuts that gave it its traction advantage were gone, and the tire no longer performed like it was new.
IMHO, there is no substitute for a well designed winter tire for winter use. I also firmly believe that one should have two sets of tires, one for each season (again my opinion). I also understand that not everyone is willing or able to invest in the additional cost to have dedicated tires for each season. That is an individual choice. I think one should assess what they intend to use their vehicle for, and then decide what type of tire or tires best suit their needs.
So, IMHO, the A/T type of tire is not an all season tire by my definition. That doesn't mean one can't choose to use them all year round, if you intend to go off road all year round or you just like the look of them. I also admit that there are probably better 'pure' winter traction tires that the A/T REVO, but they will not also funtion as well as the REVO in off road use. Since all my off roading is done in late fall and winter during hunting season, I feel the REVO is the best all around A/T winter tire I have used. The rest of the year, the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/Ts work fine for me.
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