Sunk 4Runner.... The epic (picture) novel of love and loss

pjackson

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So I will try to explain everything the best I can... someone please read and enjoy my horrible weekend. But more importantly...weigh in on your opinions....please......

Got stuck in a river last Saturday. Water filled up the inside, not quite to the CD player, but pretty decently. The first thing that happened was the horn went off (and stayed on for the next few hours while I try to tie ropes and chains under the front end...fml) I am pretty sure the 'factory security system' got activated or shorted out...From my limited knowledge of hydrolocking I left the truck running to prevent water from going back down the exhaust. The airbox never got fully submerged so it kept running for a while...but meanwhile the lights on the interior slowly died and at some point the dash quit out. Buddies Jeep couldn't pull me out and we ended up waiting for about 4 hours (while I tried just about everything in the freezing water to free her). The 4runner was low on gas when we first got stuck and either ran out of gas or the battery died around hour 3. Hour 4, another jeep with winch shows up and pulls me to dry land. (it is dark now and I am shaking uncontrollably while trying to stay warm)

Let it sit overnight and we towed her home in the morning. I thought the engine would be fine but wanted to be 100% sure before I went to try and crank it so I pulled the plugs and tried to turn the engine over. Battery was dead so we had it jumping off another vehicle. (Note: security system is now excited to have more juice and sings the song of its people. until we unplug the horns...then just more high pitched siren.) Turning key, no click from starter, silence. (well...there is the siren..) Unplug battery to save eardrums, scratch head in confusion. Fuses looked good. We ended up plugging the battery again and measuring current at the starter when I turned the key, so we decided to pull the starter and clean it. (it was disgusting. muddy stuff all inside, we cleaned, regreased and replaced.)

After cleaning it we still had same issue of no clicking, nothing. (hmmm...alternator time??) At this point I am running out of time and source a ride back home (4hours away) for work on monday. Last ditch effort we do a roll start with the spark plugs out and let that clear the cylinders. We put plugs back in, hook everything up and roll start it. Cranks up!

Let it idle in the driveway for a bit before limping to the gas station. Put 50$ in, and messed with some door plugs I have exposed. At this point I notice a bundle of wires going up under steering column. Moving these causes my instrument cluster to come back on momentarily (and the alarm system cuts off) Its a miracle!!! But wait, no its back to bad. And the lights begin to dim as I drive away. Suddenly I've got almost no power, and end up having my friend tow me back to my buddies house again. This time we cannot pull start it (behind his jeep and slowly letting the clutch out into 2nd gear)

(update about the annoying security system short...so as time progressed, when it was idling at the house eventually the system turned off when the doors were closed and the lights were turned off. Lights on, or door open, WHEEEEEEEE goes the siren)

The drive to the gas station made me think the TPS was off. Poor driving...sputtering and just no power...Time to research more about TPS...

Question #1: Does the security system keep the starter from functioning properly or is my starter fried? (After some searching I have found that people do have problems cranking when their systems are in alert mode, so is it possible that my starter is good and just the security issue?)

Question #2: Should I just go ahead and buy a new Alternator? (the power seemed to be dying off pretty quickly and if it is anywhere near as clogged as the starter...mmmmyeah.) But then again I am no expert on electronics.

Question #3: Should I go ahead and grab a used ECU or should this dry out and be ok? I mean, the engine ran...which makes me think the ECU is ok?
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After I figure out these issues I am obviously going to be swapping some fluids, but my primary concern is to get the engine running again! So this weekend I have to drive 4 hours south to hopefully fix her and drive her home!
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UPDATE!!!!!! My old roommate in Valdosta (that house) called and told me he unplugged the alarm brain from under the seat and now he can plug the battery up without hearing whining....now if I can just bypass this system....

2 1/2 inch susp lift with 265/75 16's (apparently you should 'winch it before you lift it')
 

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Just curious....where in the hell were you going?!?! I could see trying to cross the stream, but you'd be facing 90* in the other direction! Hopefully everything works out...maybe [MENTION=90701]Ark[/MENTION]RWLR can chime in...
 
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Don't know two much about how these trucks act when they do hydro lock-up ,and looks like most of your vitals are above water line (air intake questionable).but from what you described my thinking is leaning toward an electrical issue .after all it did start up and drove aways .unless there was some water in the intake that finally made to the motor.dude those are some great pics ! your runner is just kicking it in the lake like a hippo .awesome
 
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Crazy story, I don't have much help to add but I would be changing the engine oil personally before trying to crank er up. Perhaps you checked the dipstick and found that the oil was perfect?

Any codes thrown?

Was there any water in the airbox?

I think I would be using an air compressor to blow out all electrical connections and then coating with WD-40 and or dielectric grease.

Good luck and hope it works out for you!
 
Just some quick answers:

Yes, I am an idiot :amen: Knew that going in though, so what can I say. I was with some of my buddies trying to stall for a surprise bday party (bday boy included) so after shooting some clays on their hunting property we went down to the river. I drove in and turned around and came out no problem the first time, and the second time I backed up (maybe!) a foot further back and somehow when I went forward I caught the skid plate on some serious clay. With the front skid plate stuck it didn't take me 10 seconds to know I was in trouble. Thats when the horn went off and the doors slowly began to leak. :bash:

Checked the oil first thing when we got back, no water in oil. I am 100% confident the engine is fine...the water didn't quite get to the sparkplugs either (which were clean when we pulled them) Airbox had a little water in the bottom, which means when I go back to valdosta this weekend I will be double checking all the EFI stuff to make sure its clean, but I dried it out and dried the filter before we cranked it back up.

No codes, the instrument panel went haywire...shall find out this weekend (hopefully some stuff has dried out)

If you guys help me get her running I may even post the video evidence of this embarrassing event. :cheers:

Ps. all fluids will be changed immediately after engine is dealt with (or maybe before if my friends help me tag team it this weekend.)

ALSO! People have suggested me draining gas? But water never got up to the fill area, and I really dont see how water would get into the sealed system? (plus, how could it run for 2 hours on below empty, if there was a leak?)
 
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Not trying to make fun ,i'm impressed with what you where doing in t4 .sucks that it happened.I wont be surprised when she fires back up .good luck
 
I so want to like your post but its soooo hard to like something that made you cold, wet and a truck that doesn't right anymore.

I'd try to let everything dry, your alternator is either dirty as hell or not charging your battery properly. Just replace.

I'd be curious about the ECU, no impact no idea!
Afterwards make sure you rip everything out to get the mold smell gone hopefully! Lots of interior pulling I see in your future. Keep us posted on your results and good luck!
 
The security box under the driver seat has a starter kill feature. That may be the only applicable knowledge i have for you here. I have my fingers crossed for you. I'm sure this will be a great opportunity to learn more about your truck's electrical systems!
 
Question #2: Should I just go ahead and buy a new Alternator? (the power seemed to be dying off pretty quickly and if it is anywhere near as clogged as the starter...mmmmyeah.) But then again I am no expert on electronics.

I have a Toyota alternator for sale if your interested. Its legit, pulled off a Tacoma (compatible) with about 80,000 miles on it.

Let me know if you are interested. $85 plus shipping. I'm not really desperate to sell it so don't expect a price drop. I may just keep it for a few years until I need to replace mine. But I will let it go for $85! Plus you will get a paypal guarantee that it will work 100% or money back.
 
You will 100% want to pull out all the interior and throw away and replace or just carpet clean the carpet. To do this you need to remove the seats and panels but trust me it is super easy, just takes a few hours. For how to guides just do a search in the google bar or use the link in my signature.

If you don't do this .... after a few weeks the mold will start to become pretty bad. Mold can actually be a serious health hazard.
 
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