The 3.4L TRD Supercharger Thread

I picked up the dynamic tensioner from Boch Toyota 2 weeks ago for $239. It was 342 at Dallas Toyota. I found it by googling the part number - PTR29-60032.
 
Which generation SC? On the 2nd/4th gen (black), they need to be pulled out from the front.

I used a screwdriver to remove the needle bearings and cages, and then used a blind hole puller to yank the rest of the bearing. Tapped the new bearings in with the large end of a 1/2" drive extension. Here's a pic of the puller in action:

Yes, the black SC. Where were you when I was doing all my searching?

All the info I found was that they could be pushed through, but now I know. All that is left of the right side bearing is the outer case. the left one is missing the bottom as it broke out on the first hit. Anyway, the case is at the machine shop now. Hopefully they can get the remainder of the bearings out and get the new ones pushed in.

Moral - you can't believe everything you read on the net, even if you find it several times. My SC is probably one of the earlier of the black ones as it was put on in 1997 when the 4runner was brand new.
 
I've been browsing around about the trd supercharger for quite some time and have really been wanting to get one. The only thing I'm concerned about is my 4runner is my DD. I plan on picking up a new runner in mid 2018 or early 2019 depending on how the flight school schedule goes, so I need a properly operating vehicle between now and then.

I have a few questions for those who have one and are in the know.
Has it affected reliability of your vehicle at all?
Is it really as foolproof to install as it appears?
Is it worth installing on a stock, original parts engine/vehicle with 200k miles, or am I just asking for repercussions from the extra stress? I'd say the vehicle has been decently taken care of, but it's not perfect. There's some tapping sound at low rpm under load which I believe to be the valves, but I'm not positive.

IMO, it doesn't affect reliability, and for me it takes a lot of the load off the tranny because I'm not down shifting so much on hills. To me it makes the 4runner more balanced with the power less strain altogether.

Yes it's easy to install, can you follow directions? It's stupid simple to install. Just take your time and read the instructions carefully. If you have trouble, just get on here. Many people are willing to give advice.

Many people have installed on 4runners with more miles than you. Honestly if you have the money to do it, imo it's worth it. I'm so glad I did, I even went out and bought another 4runner that had one on it so I could transfer it over.
 
So I'm putting together a timing belt change kit, is the only thing I will need in addition to the kit the supercharger belt? It definitely has some cracks in it so I will be replacing it for sure.
 
What brand thermostat is everyone running...

I am preparing to replace my radiator and install a trans cooler...

Just wondering what everyone is running since I will be changing it during that process...
 
Torque on the nut isn't the problem. Torque to oppose the rotation of the shaft is what I can't seem to get enough of. Everything just spins with the nut because there is no way to apply enough torque on the shaft opposite the direction of the nut.

An impact wrench/gun works very different than a breaker bar or a normal ratchet. It literally slams the nut with strong forceful motions so it breaks it loose without turning it hardly at all. I'm not very good at explaining it but it works. I had the exact same issue you have, the impact gun took it off in less than 1 second. After an hour or more of trying to break it with my breaker bar and rubber straps to hold the pulley in place I realized I was getting nowhere.
 
I attempted to rebuild my SC this past weekend. The nut was easy to get off with an impact. While I had the snout off I just wrapped a rag around the pulley and hit the nut with the impact and it came right off. The snout bearings were fairly easy, however the rotor bearings in the back of the case were not. In fact they are still there, or what is left of them, anyway. The one on the right does not push through, so I am going to have to go to a machine shop and see if they can work some magic to get it out. Tried with a 20 ton press and a BFH and nothing, other than pieces of needle bearing everywhere. The one on the left, closest to the TB, the back broke out of it. I am going to let the professionals handle that part. I think the one on the left would push through but the right hole must not go through.



I did mine when I got it and they pushed through just fine. The left one falls out through one of the manifold openings. I don't know if you can safely push through the right one without cracking the housing though. There was a crack on mine already right behind the opening so I just JB welded it after I had the new bearings in. The only thing I screwed up was the rotor pack since I attempted to replace those bearings. I ended up buying a new rotor pack... Don't try this at home!
 
What brand thermostat is everyone running...

I am preparing to replace my radiator and install a trans cooler...

Just wondering what everyone is running since I will be changing it during that process...
I'm using a Stant 14077 170 degree thermostat. Keeps the engine around 179-181 according to the OBD2, which is maybe a little too cool (stayed around 190 with the stock thermostat).

I'm not getting any ping at all with only that, 92 gas, and being around sea level. No other fuel mods, or even cooler plugs yet.
 
What brand thermostat is everyone running...

I am preparing to replace my radiator and install a trans cooler...

Just wondering what everyone is running since I will be changing it during that process...



I'm using the "fancy" TRD one that was way more money than it needs to be. I'd go with the basic Stant one if he says it works fine.
I don't know my exact temp but even with the 2nd gen smaller radiator my gauge runs cooler than it did with the standard thermostat.

....remember there's hundreds of thousands of dollars and man hours in research and development in these rigs. It's called "normal operating temperature" for a reason and colder is not always better. There is a limit to how cool you want it to run....

So again, I'd go with the Stant as suggested

Good luck
 
I'm using the "fancy" TRD one that was way more money than it needs to be. I'd go with the basic Stant one if he says it works fine.
I don't know my exact temp but even with the 2nd gen smaller radiator my gauge runs cooler than it did with the standard thermostat.

....remember there's hundreds of thousands of dollars and man hours in research and development in these rigs. It's called "normal operating temperature" for a reason and colder is not always better. There is a limit to how cool you want it to run....

So again, I'd go with the Stant as suggested

Good luck

Motorad made the TRD thermostats.

The 170degree is part number 281-170. $13.28 on Amazon
 
What temperature are we trying to achieve with this thermostat when running a SC?

I am running the stock 180 on mine and I see temps between 186 and 192. That is in AL where it has been in the high 90s lately, with the AC on all the time. That is per my Ultragauge. That is good for me. I have the 170* stat on my bench but as long as it stays below 200* I am good with it. I just replaced the radiator cap with the OEM one.

I have a blown Chevy truck and it runs hotter with a 170 stat that the 4runner with the 180.
 
What temperature are we trying to achieve with this thermostat when running a SC?



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What radiator cap did you switch too?





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I think the overall plan is to attempt at alleviating the pinging by cooling everything down a bit. Spark plugs are supposed to be cooler, and the thermostat as well.
I think a comfortable margin is right where everyone is: 180-195. Even going higher (low 200's) isn't gonna hurt anything but once is all high performance you want it a bit on the cooler side since it's all working harder.

I have stock radiator cap.
 
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That's the question. I've searched these forums and people use anywhere from 305 cc Supra injectors to 500 cc racing injectors.

If you change the injectors than an ECU management or piggyback is almost necessary if you want to pass emissions (not sure what your state requires) since it runs the risk of running rich when not in boost. That's why I'm leaning towards a meth kit, much easier to control since there's no injection when not under boost.

Ok so where to get these injectors? I do not have to worry about emissions. I have the blower off and I have done the valve covers so I am ready to put it all back together. I will add the AEM, I think, to tune it.
 
I'd like to get my urd 7th injector kit installed. I can probably do it but I don't have space nor the tools to do it right. Are there any shop you guys can recommend near Los Angeles area I can give a call? I already have sc installed so I just need to add URD kit + 2.2 pulley. Thanks in advance.
 
I'd like to get my urd 7th injector kit installed. I can probably do it but I don't have space nor the tools to do it right. Are there any shop you guys can recommend near Los Angeles area I can give a call? I already have sc installed so I just need to add URD kit + 2.2 pulley. Thanks in advance.



do it yourself. you need a basic socket set, maybe a basic allen set, a razor blade, screw driver, wire strippers and some soldering iron stuff.

Super simple to install just make sure your wiring is correct.
 
Ack! Help!

So after having cleaned my SC last week and changing the oil, my 4runner wont run. its super chuggy at idle and dies after revving once or twice on its own and doesn't smooth out until over 1500 rpm. Ive checked my vacuum connections and they seem good. All the electrical I can see is plugged in. No check engine light BTW.

Any thought on where to start trouble shooting?

At 0:25 I start pressing the gas pedal and hold the high idle manually. At 0:57, it revs all by itself.
https://youtu.be/t-Gl5FDuquE

Edit:

This is probably far fetched, but...

While doing my UCAs yesterday, this fell out of nowhere somewhere on the drivers side of the engine bay.
Don't know if it could possibly have anything to do with it

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Ok so where to get these injectors? I do not have to worry about emissions. I have the blower off and I have done the valve covers so I am ready to put it all back together. I will add the AEM, I think, to tune it.

The 305's (or 315?) people use are off the 7MGE non-turbo Supras. You'll want to double check them first though before buying anything, but something like these:

Denso Flow Matched Fuel Injector Set for Toyota Lexus L3 0 23250 46050 6 | eBay

WitchHunter Performance - Injector Cleaning & Flow Testing Services has a great site that shows cc's for almost all Toyota injectors.
 
Ack! Help!

So after having cleaned my SC last week and changing the oil, my 4runner wont run. its super chuggy at idle and dies after revving once or twice on its own and doesn't smooth out until over 1500 rpm. Ive checked my vacuum connections and they seem good. All the electrical I can see is plugged in. No check engine light BTW.

Any thought on where to start trouble shooting?

At 0:25 I start pressing the gas pedal and hold the high idle manually. At 0:57, it revs all by itself.
https://youtu.be/t-Gl5FDuquE

Edit:

This is probably far fetched, but...

While doing my UCAs yesterday, this fell out of nowhere somewhere on the drivers side of the engine bay.
Don't know if it could possibly have anything to do with it

That piece looks like the large washer that goes between the supercharger and the tall bracket on the driver's side cylinder head to me. Very easy to lose, I also dropped mine in the engine and it eventually fell out.

My money's on the vacuum hose routing is wrong. Double check all hoses to make sure they are connected and routed correctly, also make sure the MAF is plugged in correctly and the intake tube is on snug.
 

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