Thinking of Selling

[ragde11]

You must do your homework beforehand.

 

[zachb_NW]

Ummm......... Did you test drive the vehicle? Did you do any research on the vehicle? Did you do research any of the 4Runner competitors before spending $40 + K on a new vehicle?

If you did test drive it you would have known whether or not the engine had enough 'power' for you. It's amazing that coming from a 1st Gen Tacoma you would find the 4Runner lacking in power.

Did you not think that a tall - high clearence - suv would be affected by wind? Again, did you test ride the truck?

Did you test drive the vehicle with the window down if that is important to you?

Did you not know about the NAV system before you bough it? Why buy a Limited with nav if you think that the nav is so bad?

No entertainment system? Did you think that after you got the truck home it would magically appear?

You say "maybe I should go look at the Nissans" Ummm... you think? Maybe it would have made sense to do that BEFORE you bought the 4Runner.

The problem is not Toyota, the problem is not the 4Runner, the problem is a lack of research and testing before buying.

I would say move on and find something else - no sense in keeping a vehicle you dislike that much. However, I recommed in the future, to avoid another case of buyer's remorse, do your homework first.

:roadkill: harsh but agree

 

[Thai]

Based on the "join" date of GatorGreg, 11-11-02, it is entirely possible that there was since the 4th Gen was introduced as a 2003. But who wants to go read posts from 9 years ago?

As an oldtimer myself, there were plenty of complaints about the 4th gen...not much different than now.

Just get a CUV or a car. What you listed sound like things that make an SUV an SUV. If you want big, too, maybe a minivan.

Hey, minivan!!

My previous vehicle was a 2004 Tundra Double Cab 4x4. I loved that truck and it saved my bacon on more than one occasion. Before that I had a pre-Tacoma Deluxe Extra Long p/u. So I'm not new to Toyota 4x4s.

The one thing it does do well is long trips. I drove from STL to DTW with one re-fueling / pee stop.

More complaints -

- 16.3 mpg while nursing the accelerator. Ethanol be damned.

- No entertainment system option...what would have been so hard about incorporating a DVD drive into the Nav.

- The factory Nav system sucks bad. Droid X with google navigation makes it look like a re****ed kid.

Well, if you came from pickups, then i think that you would have liked a 4runner Trail (more rugged look and ride) or maybe a Nissan Xterra. I doubt that you would like the sissy wagon commonly known as Pathfinder. :shrug:

16.3 mpg ain't gonna improve with any other SUVs due to ethanol...so, is this a legit complaint against 4runner specifically??? The 4runner is actually near the top or at the top among all SUVs with LO range in terms of fuel economy. It is damn good IMO. So, if the 4runner gets 16.3, then how much do you expect a competiting SUV to get??? Better? i doubt it.

DVD drive in the NAVI is useless. Why do you need it? If it is in there, then Toyota lawyers won't let you use it anyways unless you are in PARK...and watching a movie in PARK will just lower your MPGs way below your 16.3 mpg mark that you hate so much! And i believe that the aftermarket bypass is getting more and more complex because Toyota really does NOT want you to bypass it. Damn, if you want to be entertained, then get your wife to drive and buy a DVD player for the backrow via Bestbuy, etc.. (or get a minivan which has a very good rear entertainment system!!!!)

I would make sure that you have the settings correct on the factory NAVI. Many people complain about its routing...only to find out that they did not check the settings. So, i would carefully go over the NAVI owner's manual and get the correct settings.

Back to your original question...this is a BAD time to sell your truck. You will lose a lot of money. Unless you sell your truck and get a base Corolla, you will lose money...lots of money. I can't imagine truck resale values to be good in this economy with fluctuating gas prices...and the fact that your 4runner is less than 1 year old! I would buy a big jar of Vaseline and get ready to use it when you enter a dealership to sell or trade in!!

Good luck with your decision.

 

[Capt Goldtop]

I also found the wind through the driver's side window to be excessive. The trick is to lower the rear window....this effectively reduces the turbulence you feel in the driver's seat.

Power is adequate for an SUV of this size. The Yota puts up similar numbers to the Grand Cherokee, Pathfinder, etc

16.3 MPGs is bad...you should be able to do better than that. I'm averaging around 18.

 

[Curt Sauve]

I'm averaging 18 mpg with my LTD as well. Driving at highway speeds with your windows open will hurt your mileage, and try using non ethenol premium if you can get it. I didn't get the nav on mine, I like my Garmin Nuvi. BTW if you can find a better midsize SUV for the same money as a T4R let me know, I'll get one too.

 

[Cabinetman]

I think you are going to have a hard time finding a better mid-size SUV that can actually be driven off-road in this price range. I looked at the LR4, GX460 and Tourareg TDI before ordering my 2011 and I felt that the 4Runner was just a better value for what I wanted. I also like Toyota's reputation for building a solid vehicle. Granted, I don't have my 4Runner yet so I don't know 100% I made the right choice, but I feel pretty good about it right now.

 

[greasypaperbag]

The factory Nav system sucks bad. Droid X with google navigation makes it look like a re****ed kid.

I don't think you can fairly compare the built-in nav to Google maps. The amount of information in a built-in nav sys database is limited in comparison to a cloud computing or multi-server based nav system like Google maps. Google will leverage multiple resources for navigation, while the built-in nav only has its database and receiver. In terms of dependability, the built-in system wins by a small amount because you aren't always guaranteed cellular service. Like another poster has already said, check your routing metrics. But if you still want a better nav sys, buy a portable GPS unit.

Is your 16.3 MPG primarily city or highway driving?

 

[1engineer]

I have but one question: Why post your dilemma? Why not just keep/get rid of it instead of post? Most everyone on here picked the 4Runner because they LIKE it.

 

[JasonCz]

If you can lay out the dough, you would love the GX. It is everything the 5th gen 4Runner should have been and then some.

Koz

Who would have guessed that a truck that's almost double the price would be better......

I have but one question: Why post your dilemma? Why not just keep/get rid of it instead of post? Most everyone on here picked the 4Runner because they LIKE it.

I agree. I don't get these threads. What kind of responses can the OP possibly be expecting.

Six months and 5,500 miles later, and I'm kind of underwhelmed with my loaded 2011 Limited. My ***** list -

- The throttle response makes me feel geriatric.

Sounds like a personal issue. I don't feel geriatric in mine, and have a background of fast motorcycles and some pretty peppy cars (Corvette, Carrera, Lancer Evolution). For a 6000lb SUV (GVW) that gets reasonable fuel mileage it does pretty darn well in my book.

- Get a little crosswind and it feels like you're trying to keep a Winnebago on the road.

Any SUV with the kind of ground clearance the 4R has will be effected by crosswinds. Sounds like a personal issue, or poor initial choice on your part.

- The ride doesn't settle down and feel right unless I have 400 lbs. of something in the cargo area.

- Keeping it clean is a pain in the ass, especially the rear spoiler thingy and window.

What? How is keeping a 4R clean any different than keeping any other SUV clean? Did you buy the wrong color? Did you not consider that you were buying a large and tall SUV?

- It catches every rock on the road.

What?

- The wind through the driver's side window is ridiculous.

I have no idea what your'e referring to. A defect maybe? talk to the dealer about a fix under warranty.


Thing is, I don't know what I would replace it with. If a guy was to walk up to me with $39K cash it would be gone regardless. I just can't fall in love with this one.

Should I stay or should I go now?

 

[TrailHunter]

Get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo to fit your needs. It has the power and roughly the same gas mileage. The handling will be much tighter and sportier, and it's a bit more streamlined and easier to clean. It's about $115K

 

[Antman]

Get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo to fit your needs. It has the power and roughly the same gas mileage. The handling will be much tighter and sportier, and it's a bit more streamlined and easier to clean. It's about $115K

... Make sure you drive it with the drivers window down first, though.

 

[SevenMaryThree]

Jesus...can't a guy have a little buyer's remorse? So I've got a little sand in my vagina...you're here too.

Yes, I did drive one before I bought it. And I did the research. It just looked better on paper than in practical application. It took me 6 months to get to this point. Test driving it doesn't always reveal the true personality of a vehicle.

I'll probably end up keeping it as I do believe it is the best there is for what I need and want at this price. I just wish I could tweak it.

 

[zachb_NW]

I just wish I could tweak it.

I think you can tweak it! All these thing you complain about can be fixed. MODS

:nicethread:

Six months and 5,500 miles later, and I'm kind of underwhelmed with my loaded 2011 Limited. My ***** list -

- The throttle response makes me feel geriatric. exhaust

- Get a little crosswind and it feels like you're trying to keep a Winnebago on the road. suspension

- The ride doesn't settle down and feel right unless I have 400 lbs. of something in the cargo area. suspension

- Keeping it clean is a pain in the ass, especially the rear spoiler thingy and window. hire some kid to clean it

- It catches every rock on the road. wind deflector. Go buy a sports car and then talk about rocks! My S2000 picks up rocks like a SOB

- The wind through the driver's side window is ridiculous. crack the back window!


Thing is, I don't know what I would replace it with. If a guy was to walk up to me with $39K cash it would be gone regardless. I just can't fall in love with this one.

Should I stay or should I go now?

 

[JasonCz]

Jesus...can't a guy have a little buyer's remorse? So I've got a little sand in my vagina...you're here too.

Yes, I did drive one before I bought it. And I did the research. It just looked better on paper than in practical application. It took me 6 months to get to this point. Test driving it doesn't always reveal the true personality of a vehicle.

I'll probably end up keeping it as I do believe it is the best there is for what I need and want at this price. I just wish I could tweak it.

The problem lies in the fact that most of the things you're complaining about are either inherent with any vehicle in this class, or nonsensical ("pics up every rock in the road , hard to clean , etc.").

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Jesus...can't a guy have a little buyer's remorse? So I've got a little sand in my vagina...you're here too.

Yes, I did drive one before I bought it. And I did the research. It just looked better on paper than in practical application. It took me 6 months to get to this point. Test driving it doesn't always reveal the true personality of a vehicle.

I'll probably end up keeping it as I do believe it is the best there is for what I need and want at this price. I just wish I could tweak it.

I agree with you on the throttle response. I have test drove 4 5th gens over the last 2 years trying to convince myself I can get used to not having low end power but when I get back in my 03 V8 I realize I will never happy with the 5th gen. A suv should have max torque at a low rpm and not need to reved to 5 grand to get good acceleration.

 

[gwcpa]

Get a Porsche Cayenne Turbo to fit your needs. It has the power and roughly the same gas mileage. The handling will be much tighter and sportier, and it's a bit more streamlined and easier to clean. It's about $115K

This would be a great idea, but alas, no roll down rear window. I was ready to buy one until I found this shorcoming. So the T4R is a worthy compromise.

 

[LD ZPPLN]

Jesus...can't a guy have a little buyer's remorse? So I've got a little sand in my vagina...you're here too.

Yes, I did drive one before I bought it. And I did the research. It just looked better on paper than in practical application. It took me 6 months to get to this point. Test driving it doesn't always reveal the true personality of a vehicle.

I'll probably end up keeping it as I do believe it is the best there is for what I need and want at this price. I just wish I could tweak it.

I love my 2011 4Runner because I hated my 2011 Pilot...........
At the end of the day all vehicles are a piece of metal going down the highway at 70 miles an hour just waiting to hit a deer........but at 2am when I roll over and feel the heat of my lady I know that is the best ride of them all!
Life is short! enjoy every day.
Mike

 

[Curt Sauve]

I agree with you on the throttle response. I have test drove 4 5th gens over the last 2 years trying to convince myself I can get used to not having low end power but when I get back in my 03 V8 I realize I will never happy with the 5th gen. A suv should have max torque at a low rpm and not need to reved to 5 grand to get good acceleration.

That's strange because autos.com says 0-60 for the 2009 SR5 4x4 V8 is 7.1 seconds and a 2011 SR5 4x4 V6 is 7.0 seconds.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

That's strange because autos.com says 0-60 for the 2009 SR5 4x4 V8 is 7.1 seconds and a 2011 SR5 4x4 V6 is 7.0 seconds.

The 5th gen has to be reved high to make power and is sluggish a low speeds, needs a lot of pedal to move and is rough sounding. The V8 has instant torque right from the get go where you run 90% of the time. I do not want to start another battle. This has been covered to many times already.

 

[bnekic]

The pedal is not that sensitive, just push down harder.