Torque app and 2014

[NoDak]

Just hooked up my bt adapter to my 2014 4 runner and all my settings for the 2012 Tacoma transmission pids carried over and work to read the transmission pan and converter temps.

Screenshots attached of what the odb-ii reader can see to read and of the app running.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

Torque is an awesome app!

 

[TxBigRed]

That's pretty cool. What OBDII adapter do you use? Is that a free app the paid version? Thanks.

 

[NoDak]

That's pretty cool. What OBDII adapter do you use? Is that a free app the paid version? Thanks.

BT adapter (iPhone must use the wifi version)

CY-B06 Super Mini ElM327 v1.5 Bluetooth OBD2 CAN-BUS Auto Scanner Tool Supports All OBD-II Protocols Compatible for OBD-II Complaint Vehicles and Bluetooth Diagnostic - Newegg.com

and the paid version of torque

 

[TxBigRed]

I'm going to order one. I've got a older scan gaugeII, but it won't monitor trans temps unless I send it in for an update. This looks like it would do the trick. Should also be good when it comes time to change trans fluid to get the fill level correct.

 

[TxBigRed]

Just ordered it from Ebay for $10.69 and free shipping here:

CY B06 Mini Bluetooth ELM327 V1 5 Can Bus Auto Diagnostic Scanner Tool US SHIP | eBay

Dave

 

[pacho]

as far as you know, this is a read-only tool and will never or has not been known in the past to mess up the vehicle electronics and sensors ?? thanks

BT adapter (iPhone must use the wifi version)

CY-B06 Super Mini ElM327 v1.5 Bluetooth OBD2 CAN-BUS Auto Scanner Tool Supports All OBD-II Protocols Compatible for OBD-II Complaint Vehicles and Bluetooth Diagnostic - Newegg.com

and the paid version of torque

 

[thzpcs]

as far as you know, this is a read-only tool and will never or has not been known in the past to mess up the vehicle electronics and sensors ?? thanks

It can clear some certain codes, (CEL and such) but I've never actually heard it messing anything up unless there's already something wrong with the car. It's by far one of the best apps I have on my phone, worth every penny.

 

[JeremyB]

One of the features I like about Torque is the ability to set warnings and the ability to log data. Fox example, you can setup a Transmission temp warning at 250 degrees, and Torque will alert you when that threshold is reached. That way, you don't necessarily have to keep and eagle eye on it during towing or trail runs.

Logging data is also nice to nerd out to. I logged my trip yesterday to see family in the 4Runner. Logged my trip to work today in my Accord. First 5 miles is the exact same.

Last chart is just the 4runner and shows the the torque converter temp compared to the pan temp when it unlocks on 2 lane roads mixed with traffic.

 

[NoDak]

dang the accord TT is all over the place. opps, didnt read the chart correctly. its pan temp and converter outlet temp.

 

[JeremyB]

Wasn't written too clearly! Edited the post to make it cleaner.

The '06 Accord doesn't have any extended PIDs, so I don't get any of the 'good' PIDs like trans temp, ABS wheel speed, etc. Also, the protocol it uses is quite slow. ~6-8 PID/sec.

The 4Runner (at least 2010+) is much faster. I get ~65 PID/sec on my OBD MX tool. ~25 PID/sec or so on my OBDlink adapter.

 

[TxBigRed]

PID Values for trans temp

Ok, Just got my adapter in and the Torque pro downloaded. Does anyone have the PID settings for the pan and convertor temp settings?
I found these settings, is this what you guy's used on yours? Thanks.

Name ShortName ModeAndPID Equation Min Value Max Value Units Header
Transmission Temp (pan) Trans temp (pan) 2182 ((((A * 256) + B ) * (7/100)-400)/10) -40 325 F
Transmission Temp (Converter) Converter Temp 2182 ((((C * 256) + D ) * (7/100)-400)/10) -40 325 F

 

[harper7]

Ok, Just got my adapter in and the Torque pro downloaded. Does anyone have the PID settings for the pan and convertor temp settings?
I found these settings, is this what you guy's used on yours? Thanks.

Name ShortName ModeAndPID Equation Min Value Max Value Units Header
Transmission Temp (pan) Trans temp (pan) 2182 ((((A * 256) + B ) * (7/100)-400)/10) -40 325 F
Transmission Temp (Converter) Converter Temp 2182 ((((C * 256) + D ) * (7/100)-400)/10) -40 325 F

Just follow [MENTION=90026]JeremyB[/MENTION] 's instructions here and thank him....... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/154351-5th-gen-extended-pids-torque-app.html

I have an 3 way OBDII splitter and run the Scangauge II and the bluetooth for Torque at the same time. I wish some software guru would get the PID's for the real time tire air pressures as I know they are stored in the ECU as I can pull them up with my Techstream.

 

[TxBigRed]

Just follow [MENTION=90026]JeremyB[/MENTION] 's instructions here and thank him....... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/154351-5th-gen-extended-pids-torque-app.html

I have an 3 way OBDII splitter and run the Scangauge II and the bluetooth for Torque at the same time. I wish some software guru would get the PID's for the real time tire air pressures as I know they are stored in the ECU as I can pull them up with my Techstream.

Thanks, and will do!

 

[JeremyB]

I have an 3 way OBDII splitter and run the Scangauge II and the bluetooth for Torque at the same time. I wish some software guru would get the PID's for the real time tire air pressures as I know they are stored in the ECU as I can pull them up with my Techstream.

I was thinking the same thing this week. It looks like Toyota uses an oddball protocol (KWP, 9600 baud) for the TPMS. I'm surprised the Prius peoples haven't figured it out.

OBDII codes | PriusChat
ScanGaugeII work on 2010? | Page 11 | PriusChat

 

[2014 Warthog]

Looks like a good place to post this.

Just got a OBDLink LX module and the Torque app Pro.

Got the trans temp in and out working fine.

The average mileage figure is GROSSLY inaccurate though Both with the "Use GPS to calculate distance" on and off.

I know I am getting around 18.5-19, but the app is telling me 26-28. (I wish!!!)

Anyway...

1) Does anyone have info on a proper mileage multiplier to use that works for the 4runner?

2) Does anyone know the actual protocol used with the 4runner? I'm currently set on "auto" but it takes time to go through them all, selecting the right one in the car profile would go much faster...

[Edit]

Ok I may have found an explanation for why the MPGs are so far off. I have the UI set to MPH but the OBD value is in KM/Hr (Can't change the UI? that's not very helpful)

Anyway, it turns out that my mileage is high by the /exact/ ratio of one mile to one kilometer. Meaning the value of 26-28 is not in MPH but actually KmPH (Even though my settings are for MPH and the guage shows "mpg"). Going to try to set the mph multiplier to 0.62 (The km to mi ratio) and see if that fixes it.

 

[JeremyB]

Looks like a good place to post this.

Just got a OBDLink LX module and the Torque app Pro.

Got the trans temp in and out working fine.

The average mileage figure is GROSSLY inaccurate though Both with the "Use GPS to calculate distance" on and off.

I know I am getting around 18.5-19, but the app is telling me 26-28. (I wish!!!)

Anyway...

1) Does anyone have info on a proper mileage multiplier to use that works for the 4runner?

2) Does anyone know the actual protocol used with the 4runner? I'm currently set on "auto" but it takes time to go through them all, selecting the right one in the car profile would go much faster...

[Edit]

Ok I may have found an explanation for why the MPGs are so far off. I have the UI set to MPH but the OBD value is in KM/Hr (Can't change the UI? that's not very helpful)

Anyway, it turns out that my mileage is high by the /exact/ ratio of one mile to one kilometer. Meaning the value of 26-28 is not in MPH but actually KmPH (Even though my settings are for MPH and the guage shows "mpg"). Going to try to set the mph multiplier to 0.62 (The km to mi ratio) and see if that fixes it.

1. My multiplier is 1.09 to get it to match the display within 0.1 mpg or so.

Make sure to select "faster communication" and "enhanced MPG calculation" in Setting --> OBD2 Adapter Settings.

Torque should take care of any conversions. I've got Units set to "Use Miles" and it converts everything fine.

2. ISO 15765-4 CAN (11bit 500k baud) You can find out what it is using by scrolling the icon 'wheel' to "Adapter Status" and scrool down to "Vehicle OBD Standard".

 

[Lester Lugnut]

Just got a OBDLink LX module and the Torque app Pro. Got the trans temp in and out working fine.

The average mileage figure is GROSSLY inaccurate though Both with the "Use GPS to calculate distance" on and off.

I know I am getting around 18.5-19, but the app is telling me 26-28. (I wish!!!)

First off, thanks to all who have participated in this thread.

If the average mileage is inaccurate, how would one know the trans temp was accurate?

 

[2014 Warthog]

1. My multiplier is 1.09 to get it to match the display within 0.1 mpg or so.

Make sure to select "faster communication" and "enhanced MPG calculation" in Setting --> OBD2 Adapter Settings.

Torque should take care of any conversions. I've got Units set to "Use Miles" and it converts everything fine.

2. ISO 15765-4 CAN (11bit 500k baud) You can find out what it is using by scrolling the icon 'wheel' to "Adapter Status" and scrool down to "Vehicle OBD Standard".

Awesome thanks. I found the "enhanced MPG calculation" setting tonight, will give that a go tomorrow

 

[wfo9]

First off, thanks to all who have participated in this thread.

If the average mileage is inaccurate, how would one know the trans temp was accurate?

The trans temp is a straight read from the CAN bus after requesting it. The MPG is a calculation based on injector duty cycle/pulse width/# cy/rpm.... and a few other minor things depending on the app. It needs to understand the injector flow rating and the actual fuel pressure to come up with accurate MPG from that data. That is where the multiplier comes in.