Towing experiences with your 5th Generation

I think we're somewhat in violent agreement here.

Now that you've actually taken the time to explain the context behind your earlier statements, yes, we are in partial agreement.

But when you say stuff like:
Torque is a "meaningless" metric for consumers.
or
A 185hp diesel engine would be too "small" for a 4runner.
or
The v6 gasoline Colorado can "out-tow" the duramax Colorado.

Don't be surprised or offended when other people disagree with you. Your statements were highly subjective and lacking in context.

And FWIW, I would take the 2.8l turbodiesel inline 4 that Toyota offers in its global 4runners and LC Prado's over the 1GR-FE in a heartbeat.


There's not much track record for the 2.8L. It's already a known issue to use in cold weather called the "cold weather surge" problem and hard starts. Colorado owners discuss whether you got a "good one" or a "bad one". Bad ones having cracked manifolds, clogged DPF systems, and regen cycle problems. We do also know it's an updated version of the same VM Motori 2.8 that plagued the Jeep Liberty for a few years. Let's all hope it's a much improved version. That one was terrible.

Actually, there is quite a track record for the 2.8l VM Motori, from which the 2.8L Duramax is derived. It's used in the overseas Jeep, among other SUV's and cars. The US-compliant variant has had some growing pains, as do all new platforms and engines (even Toyota's). But overall, it seems to be an efficient and reliable powertrain.


Comparing the engine noise/comfort as TFL does is a bit of a false comparison. If you slow the Tacoma down to go the same speed as the Diesel Colorado you'd only need to run it at about 3,700 rpms. They didn't do that type of comparison.

3,700 RPM is still high and loud for the 1GR-FE (any sustained driving over 2k RPM's is not fun nor efficient).
Also, if you did slow down that much, you'd still be getting crappy mpg's while getting no tangible "performance" benefit over the diesel....so what would be the point?

The GR lasts basically forever.

It will last a good long while. But at 150k-200k miles, many of those vehicles will have depreciated to $6k-$8k. A well-maintained diesel at that mileage will still fetch a good portion of its original MSRP. There is a reason for that price discrepancy. The 1GR-FE is good engine when used for its intended purpose, but it has its limitations as well.
 
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Not if it's in an unpopular or unreliable model.

This. Find me a vm motori that's 5years old and has a decent resale. So far they've been almost universally terrible in the USA products. From the dodge caravans to the liberty models. They're a very cheap motor and it shows. Resale is basically scrap metal prices. A Toyota diesel would carry some value is guess. But the 2.8 is a complete dog. I've driven a few. No one would buy them. It would be a terrible motor for USA highways.
 
The diesel is pretty much dead in the U.S. The EPA and the need for all the emissions crap here has seen to that. Total bummer!

Regarding the Camry motor in the Tacoma....No thanks! :ranger:
 
let's get back on track here....I'll be buying a ski boat soon and will have to travel to get what I want. The ones I'm finding are 600 - 800 miles away. It's roughly 4,500 lbs with the trailer. Anything I should be concerned with?
 
I have a 19' Crownline at around that weight that I tow and it handles it fine. The brake assist on my trailer doesnt work so the brakes get a little warm at times but other than that no complaints. I keep it in 4th gear so that it doesnt bog down.
 
let's get back on track here....I'll be buying a ski boat soon and will have to travel to get what I want. The ones I'm finding are 600 - 800 miles away. It's roughly 4,500 lbs with the trailer. Anything I should be concerned with?

In this thread are some good suggestions to employ:

- electric trailer brakes
- brake controller such as a Tekonsha Prodigy or similar
- air bags or stiffer rear springs
- use manual shifting
 
In this thread are some good suggestions to employ:

- electric trailer brakes
- brake controller such as a Tekonsha Prodigy or similar
- air bags or stiffer rear springs
- use manual shifting

- buy a truck if you're going to tow heavy shit often
- quit *****ing about a the mid size SUV you bought because it doesn't tow like a 3/4 ton diesel truck while getting 35 mpg
 
- buy a truck if you're going to tow heavy shit often
- quit *****ing about a the mid size SUV you bought because it doesn't tow like a 3/4 ton diesel truck while getting 35 mpg

Hey toughguy....my point was to derail the thread from the stupid diesel conversation! I know it won't tow like a dam Peterbuilt and that's not my concern! I'll be dragging a boat less than 2 miles to the ramp....once I get it home. I'm not going to go buy a 3/4 ton truck to get a boat home one time....I can just have it shipped or take it easy with my 4Runner.
 
Hey toughguy....my point was to derail the thread from the stupid diesel conversation! I know it won't tow like a dam Peterbuilt and that's not my concern! I'll be dragging a boat less than 2 miles to the ramp....once I get it home. I'm not going to go buy a 3/4 ton truck to get a boat home one time....I can just have it shipped or take it easy with my 4Runner.

28 pages in and all of a sudden you think I singled you out.
You're not that important. Get back to fetching your boat.
 
HOLY SHIT OK! what truck gets 35mpg??

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My DuraSmart Cummins Turbo Diesel has you and your Rabbit beat with 62mpg towing a 5th wheel uphill in the Himalayas

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