Toyota 4Runner 2010+ ICON Stage 1 vs Stage 2

[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** In-Stock and Shipping Within 1-2 days **

We are seeing limited stock on rears, but still coming in weekly.

ICON Stage 1 Kit, Part #K53061 - Click Here

ICON Stage 2 Kit, Part #K53062T - Click Here

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** Back In-Stock, But Going Fast **

Stage 1 and Stage 2 Kits back in-stock with limited quantities.

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[aweaver65]

Quick Post Install Question

this might not be the best place to post this question, but I'm thinking since these kits are listed for sale in this thread, it can't hurt.

I just had a Stage 2 kit with Billet UCA's installed by 4wheel Parts about 2 weeks ago and it's barely broken in. Everything seems fine and I love it, that said, it's pretty squeaky and creaky. By that, I mean, when I step down out of it after a ride it creaks like a wooden pirate ship as the springs reset themselves.

Is that normal? I'm just wondering if there is anything binding that is creating that noise that I should be concerned about, or it that's just the way these are?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

 

[scratchhax]

Not normal, dollars to donuts they either didn't grease the bushings or they tried to grease after everything was torqued down and grease didn't make it into the bushings.
ask me (and my torn bushings) how I know
Get those things lubed up!

this might not be the best place to post this question, but I'm thinking since these kits are listed for sale in this thread, it can't hurt.

I just had a Stage 2 kit with Billet UCA's installed by 4wheel Parts about 2 weeks ago and it's barely broken in. Everything seems fine and I love it, that said, it's pretty squeaky and creaky. By that, I mean, when I step down out of it after a ride it creaks like a wooden pirate ship as the springs reset themselves.

Is that normal? I'm just wondering if there is anything binding that is creating that noise that I should be concerned about, or it that's just the way these are?

Thanks for any advice you can provide.

 

[aweaver65]

Not normal, dollars to donuts they either didn't grease the bushings or they tried to grease after everything was torqued down and grease didn't make it into the bushings.
ask me (and my torn bushings) how I know
Get those things lubed up!

I figured it had to be something like that... My next question is, does this mean it has to be taken apart to be corrected? and dumb question #2: Which bushings? are you talking about the bushings in the UCA?

Do you have any pics of your torn bushings? That would really help me make my case.

Last, I have to say the crew at 4WheelParts seem like some decent guys, BUT I don't have a lot of confidence in their techs. Case in point: I discussed with the sales guy up front and reinforced this point at least 3 times, last when I dropped it off to be worked on. I was very clear that if any of the tires needed a lot of weight to be balanced, I wanted a new tire, period... So I get over $7K worth of suspension, wheels and tires done and they give it back to me with a tire that needed FIFETEEN OUNCES of weight to balance! If I didn't ask, they'd have left it that way. I got a new tire...

 

[scratchhax]

I don't have pictures, but yes the UCA's are the bushings I mean specifically. The whole system needs to be greased though. If it has a zerk fitting, it needs grease. If the bushing tears, in addition to squeaking and creaking you'll start to get clunking and no manner of grease will make the squeak go away for longer than a few miles. The UCA will have to come off to replace the bushing (Icon was backordered when we had to get mine just FYI) but the good news is that it is a quick process for a shop with the right tools and it's unlikely that you will damage anything driving on a brand new torn bushing while you wait for the part to arrive.
If they are backordered, have them loosen the UCA bolts and then grease the bejesus out of the bushing to help keep you protected while you wait.

I figured it had to be something like that... My next question is, does this mean it has to be taken apart to be corrected? and dumb question #2: Which bushings? are you talking about the bushings in the UCA?

Do you have any pics of your torn bushings? That would really help me make my case.

Last, I have to say the crew at 4WheelParts seem like some decent guys, BUT I don't have a lot of confidence in their techs. Case in point: I discussed with the sales guy up front and reinforced this point at least 3 times, last when I dropped it off to be worked on. I was very clear that if any of the tires needed a lot of weight to be balanced, I wanted a new tire, period... So I get over $7K worth of suspension, wheels and tires done and they give it back to me with a tire that needed FIFETEEN OUNCES of weight to balance! If I didn't ask, they'd have left it that way. I got a new tire...

 

[aweaver65]

I don't have pictures, but yes the UCA's are the bushings I mean specifically. The whole system needs to be greased though. If it has a zerk fitting, it needs grease. If the bushing tears, in addition to squeaking and creaking you'll start to get clunking and no manner of grease will make the squeak go away for longer than a few miles. The UCA will have to come off to replace the bushing (Icon was backordered when we had to get mine just FYI) but the good news is that it is a quick process for a shop with the right tools and it's unlikely that you will damage anything driving on a brand new torn bushing while you wait for the part to arrive.
If they are backordered, have them loosen the UCA bolts and then grease the bejesus out of the bushing to help keep you protected while you wait.

Thanks again. I forgot to mention that I have the Billet UCA's and they don't actually have bushings... They have heim joints. I saw another few posts where this problem was tied to an O-ring in the shock and was addressed by using motorcycle chain lube on the shock shaft... I may try that on both the heim joints and the front shock shafts and report back.

 

[scratchhax]

ahh I wasn't aware they did it different on the billets. I'm stage 3 tubular with the overland springs.

Thanks again. I forgot to mention that I have the Billet UCA's and they don't actually have bushings... They have heim joints. I saw another few posts where this problem was tied to an O-ring in the shock and was addressed by using motorcycle chain lube on the shock shaft... I may try that on both the heim joints and the front shock shafts and report back.

 

[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Thank you for all the Support!!

ICON Stage 1 and Stage 2 orders continue to ship out quickly.

More ICON items received today and ready to ship.

ICON Stage 1 Kit, Part #K53061 - Click Here

ICON Stage 2 Kit, Part #K53062T - Click Here

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[MAST4R]

When advertising products for family wagons, Icon should exit the 20-year old boy mentality and not offer the 2.0IFP on anything but a "stage 1" lift. And then advertise Stage 1 as a road first setup, one that makes the 4Runner much more fun to drive and safer on road, no UCAs needed.

They should also specify it as good for 2-3" lift, not 1-3" lift.

It is an excellent shock for the money with outstanding street performance, but it has far too little uptravel on 1" lift and it only lasts like 10,000 miles total if actually used offroad.

Icon should offer the 2.0 resi on anything above Stage 1.

 

[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** Hot Movers **

Stage 1 - In-Stock and Shipping!

Stage 2 - In-Stock and Shipping!

Per the recommendations and insights of [MENTION=306890]MAST4R[/MENTION],
we are looking at an easy upgrade option for...

ICON 2.0, w/Res - Part #56505R

Use Part Number '56505-Upgrade' on Stage 2 Kit to Include Rear Shocks w/Reservoir

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Getting Ready for the Upcoming Off-Road Season?

ICON Complete Kits are always a great option.

ICON Stage 1 and Stage 2 orders continue to be Most Popular.

ICON Stage 1 Kit, Part #K53061 - Click Here

ICON Stage 2 Kit, Part #K53062T - Click Here

We are still receiving weekly deliveries. Currently waiting on more rear shocks.

Please let us know if you have any questions or next help with your 4Runner build.

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** Quick Update **

Current stock delay on all rear shocks...

Part #56505
Part #56505R
Part #57810P
Part #57810CP

We are expecting to see more of these in the next 1-2 weeks.

ICON Stage 1 Kit, Part #K53061 - Click Here

ICON Stage 2 Kit, Part #K53062T - Click Here

To see all ICON Complete Kits - Click Here

Everything else is currently in-stock and ready to ship.


*When ordering online, use Promo Code "T4R-ICON" for added savings on most brands.

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** Back In-Stock **

ICON 2.0 Rear Shocks are back in-stock.

Stage 1 and Stage 2 Complete kits ready to ship!!

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Thank you for all the support T4R!!

Everyone who place an order during last weekends Off-Road Expo Special
has been processed and shipped!

More ICON items received this week for Fast Shipping!

Looking for an ICON Stage 1 or Stage 2 Complete Kit?

Now is a great time to order for Quick Delivery.

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Black Friday Specials Were Amazing - Thank You!

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

** Quick Update **

ICON Stage 2 Kits are on Fire!

Over the years, ICON has been one of the most popular brands on
Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

Our Fulfillment Team started working back in July to have inventory
needed to process and ship orders as quickly possible.

ICON Stage 2 Complete Kits are going faster than expected.

Part #K53062T - Click Here

The Coil-over shocks used in this system are the Extended Travel
version, they offer more wheel travel and will enhance your on and
off-road performance even more so than the standard travel version.

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Limited Quantities still available and Ready to Ship.

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

ICON Inventory is still coming in...

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[TotalAutomotiveLV]

Looking for a Stage 1 (Standard Travel) or Stage 2 (Extended Travel) Kit?

In Stock and Ready to Ship!

ICON Complete Kits - Click Here

When ordering online, use Promo Code "T4R" for added savings on most brands.

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