Toyota vs Dodge vid (hope it's not old)
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nserpa9248
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looks like a couple of guys at a dealership.
Lol dont show that to the dodge guys
edit: doesnt look like the guy in the dodge ever let off to get traction, he just did alot of burning out.
It be cool to see those two trucks against eachother and not do a huge burnout, the looser should be dragged
Lol dont show that to the dodge guys
edit: doesnt look like the guy in the dodge ever let off to get traction, he just did alot of burning out.
It be cool to see those two trucks against eachother and not do a huge burnout, the looser should be dragged
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RamThis
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Too late, this dodge guy already saw it and I call BS.
Number one, the Tundra barely pulled on the tow cable. Looks like it had LSD too.
Number two, the Ram had open diff, not LSD. The Ram's come with a Dana LSD unit from the factory, pretty decent unit, it would not allow that much peg leg spin.
And the kille for this vid is...... At the very end of the pull, you still hear the ram spinning it's tire, yet the Tundra stops pulling, and the tow cable acutally becomes slack!!! And it all makes sense when you think about how the video was shot. You NEVER see the front of the Ram. Guess what, my bet is, there was another truck in front of the Ram, probably a couple trucks with some front end damage, to hold the Ram back, and give the Tundra a nice easy pull for the video, and at the end, the Ram guy got overzealous and kept the wheel spinning, and the push truck kept pushing, while the Tundra driver had already let off, letting the cable slack for a moment.
Just my take on it, they may not have done it exactly this way, but after watching it a couple times, I feel this is close to how it all went down.
Having said that, I'd like to see them outpull EITHER of my Rams with a Tundra LOL. One having 4.10's and an Auburn LSD, The other having 4.10's and a Detroit Locker. Good Luck with that one!! Better have 4WD if you're gonna drag either of my trucks around LOL.
Number one, the Tundra barely pulled on the tow cable. Looks like it had LSD too.
Number two, the Ram had open diff, not LSD. The Ram's come with a Dana LSD unit from the factory, pretty decent unit, it would not allow that much peg leg spin.
And the kille for this vid is...... At the very end of the pull, you still hear the ram spinning it's tire, yet the Tundra stops pulling, and the tow cable acutally becomes slack!!! And it all makes sense when you think about how the video was shot. You NEVER see the front of the Ram. Guess what, my bet is, there was another truck in front of the Ram, probably a couple trucks with some front end damage, to hold the Ram back, and give the Tundra a nice easy pull for the video, and at the end, the Ram guy got overzealous and kept the wheel spinning, and the push truck kept pushing, while the Tundra driver had already let off, letting the cable slack for a moment.
Just my take on it, they may not have done it exactly this way, but after watching it a couple times, I feel this is close to how it all went down.
Having said that, I'd like to see them outpull EITHER of my Rams with a Tundra LOL. One having 4.10's and an Auburn LSD, The other having 4.10's and a Detroit Locker. Good Luck with that one!! Better have 4WD if you're gonna drag either of my trucks around LOL.
Northof49
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Pretty elaborate conspiracy theory there....
Regardless of whatever happened (we'll never know)....Not too hard to believe that a truck with a pile more power/torque, an LSD, and a traction control system is going to pull a truck without those 2 things...
It would make a whole lot less sense if the Ram pulled the Tundra LOL
Regardless of whatever happened (we'll never know)....Not too hard to believe that a truck with a pile more power/torque, an LSD, and a traction control system is going to pull a truck without those 2 things...
It would make a whole lot less sense if the Ram pulled the Tundra LOL
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boston_kevin
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I used to get the same clouds when doing donuts in my old Mustang. A couple of gallons of bleach will create awesome clouds of smoke like that and give absolutely no traction to the tires.
Definitely rigged.
Definitely rigged.
nserpa9248
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from the pics on the video, and the pics in the background of the websites car photos
looks like this is the dealership that this was done at
http://www.michaelstoyota.com/Default.aspx
looks like this is the dealership that this was done at
http://www.michaelstoyota.com/Default.aspx
RamThis
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Dont get me wrong now. I think the Tundra is an awesome truck, and would like to see a FULL VIEW of this whole "Redneck Bumper Pull" where both vehicles in their entirety are shown, similarly equipped.
Also watch the guy get out of the Ram, he doesnt go back to the rear of the truck where you'd expect someone to go after a bumper pulloff, he was intently looking at the FRONT of the truck, and disappeared off camera to probably see if the push vehicle (again my theory take it or leave it) and the Ram suffered any damage. And since the Tundra looks to have been damaged on the rear bedside, I imagine the Ram had front end damage so they had the idea to do this since they were fixing the vehicles anyway. And the Ram was probably pushed by another vehicle with front end damage.
Sadly, these were probably customer's vehicles as well. :bash:
Total set-up.
This coming from a fairly unbiased viewer who owns BOTH Dodge's and a Toyota, so not like I'm really playing favorites here. Just pointing out the reality.
Also watch the guy get out of the Ram, he doesnt go back to the rear of the truck where you'd expect someone to go after a bumper pulloff, he was intently looking at the FRONT of the truck, and disappeared off camera to probably see if the push vehicle (again my theory take it or leave it) and the Ram suffered any damage. And since the Tundra looks to have been damaged on the rear bedside, I imagine the Ram had front end damage so they had the idea to do this since they were fixing the vehicles anyway. And the Ram was probably pushed by another vehicle with front end damage.
Sadly, these were probably customer's vehicles as well. :bash:
Total set-up.
This coming from a fairly unbiased viewer who owns BOTH Dodge's and a Toyota, so not like I'm really playing favorites here. Just pointing out the reality.
RamThis
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Uneek said:
Yes he does walk back around, but his first look was straight at the front of the truck to see if anything happened.
And you never saw a tire spin on the ram anyway, only the passenger side tire was spinning, open diff no LSD, but you can still hear the Ram's engine revving and the tire spinning, and the Tundra is stopped already. Meaning the Ram driver was still pushing against the "push vehicle" for just a bit too long, and the push vehicle pushed the Ram back a bit too much at the last second causing the tow strap to slack up a few times.
Northof49
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What would be the fun of setting it up when the outcome would be the same either way? Why go through all the effort? The Tundra slipped it's tires at the beginning as the traction control was kicking in, without its brake lights on, so it was obviously pulling on it.
By the time you have a single tire boiling like that, it has basically 0 traction to aid forward movement, so the slack could easily just be from the backward momentum.
I just think you're reading too far into it....
By the time you have a single tire boiling like that, it has basically 0 traction to aid forward movement, so the slack could easily just be from the backward momentum.
I just think you're reading too far into it....
I agree here, I don't think this thing was rigged to make the Tundra win via the push vehicle theory. The Ram smoked its tires so much it was pretty much spinning on molten rubber - very low traction. If you watch at the very end the Tundra stops while the Ram's momentum is still moving it backward, which is what you would expect in low traction situation (Imagine the Ram's tires on a patch of ice at that point). Eventually, the backward momentum is overcome by the relatively low forward force of the spinning tires and it surges back forward and takes the slack out.Northof49 said:
I'm not defending this video, in fact I think its completely retarded, but there are other more practical ways they could have and probably did rig it for the Tundra to win, which doesn't include screwing up the bumpers of two vehicles...
We dismissed these videos at TS a long time ago. However, that didn't stop the competition from submitting a few of their own extremist videos...
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Even Steven
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You guys really need to use some common sense here. First of all, it's easy for the Tundra to pull the Dodge when the Dodge is spinnings its tires. Think about it. The truck that breaks traction will definitely be at a big disadvantage.
Secondly, the theory that there was a vehicle in front of the Dodge is just pure BS. The Dodge broke traction almost immediately and began to get pull to the rear. The guy gets out of the Dodge and moves just to the left of the camera, but you can still see his shadow for all but maybe a second. He didn't go look at the front bumper for damage.
As for the slack in the tow strap toward the end--if the Dodge's tires are spinning, the slack in the tow strap won't be gone until it manages to move forward. Haven't you guys seen a car sitting still while burning out? Same idea here. Plus, the driver's side rear wheel on the Dodge wasn't even turning, indicating an open rear differential.
Anyway, the video is more about illustrating traction than power. Once the Dodge loses traction, it's all over. If the Dodge had the same advantages as the Tundra (traction control and/or 4wd system), I'm sure it would be a much better comparison.
Secondly, the theory that there was a vehicle in front of the Dodge is just pure BS. The Dodge broke traction almost immediately and began to get pull to the rear. The guy gets out of the Dodge and moves just to the left of the camera, but you can still see his shadow for all but maybe a second. He didn't go look at the front bumper for damage.
As for the slack in the tow strap toward the end--if the Dodge's tires are spinning, the slack in the tow strap won't be gone until it manages to move forward. Haven't you guys seen a car sitting still while burning out? Same idea here. Plus, the driver's side rear wheel on the Dodge wasn't even turning, indicating an open rear differential.
Anyway, the video is more about illustrating traction than power. Once the Dodge loses traction, it's all over. If the Dodge had the same advantages as the Tundra (traction control and/or 4wd system), I'm sure it would be a much better comparison.
