Toytec Ultimate vs New - Old Man Emu Lift

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I'm 99% sure that's my next choice (BP-51)....designed around all Toyota components, uses stock UCA's.

Ps...remember to buy the spanner wrench that fits that system!
 
Titanpat57 said:
I'm 99% sure that's my next choice (BP-51)....designed around all Toyota components, uses stock UCA's.

Ps...remember to buy the spanner wrench that fits that system!
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Depending upon your selected amount of lift, tire, offset, and drive ability (even after alignment...) will determine if you want/need UCAs. This isn't specific to OME and you may still require/want UCAs with the BP-51s.
 
mo_mo said:
Depending upon your selected amount of lift, tire, offset, and drive ability (even after alignment...) will determine if you want/need UCAs. This isn't specific to OME and you may still require/want UCAs with the BP-51s.
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I was assured by the ARB rep....that the system was designed around stock components and designed to work with them.

Not saying your wrong.... just telling you exactly what he told me, when I asked him what UCA's he'd recommend for the system. He said all OEM equipment would work.
 
This statement didn't help at all. If you don't want anwser the thread then dont bother opening it. I too am curious about this also.
 
I have the ultimate.

The front springs sagged like a mofo that I needed to have the whole damn thing adjusted a year later.
 
LandCruiser said:
I have the ultimate.

The front springs sagged like a mofo that I needed to have the whole damn thing adjusted a year later.
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That seems to be odd. A properly designed spring really shouldn't sag, unless it gets over stressed. Which shouldn't be the case. But then again, you do break things! ;-)

NZDZRT
 
T4Ranger said:
I just pulled the trigger today on the bp51 from toytec!
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Just FYI, the 4Runner specific BP-51 system has not been released yet according to ARB as of a week ago. The ones that are available have valves that are tuned to the FJ and not the 4Runner. Might want to double check with Toytec, and contact ARB to confirm if you need to. They said it wouldn't be until mid-late March when the 4Runner specific set up will be available. Best of luck.
 
NZDZRT said:
That seems to be odd. A properly designed spring really shouldn't sag, unless it gets over stressed. Which shouldn't be the case. But then again, you do break things! ;-)

NZDZRT
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Then why does every 4runner (hell just about every toyota SUV) lean to one side over time? Why do tow vehicles have the ass end lower than the front?
 
MTN4RNR said:
Might want to double check with Toytec, and contact ARB to confirm if you need to.
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[MENTION=102009]T4Ranger[/MENTION] Wise words. Particularly with this local vendor, they are super nice and very accommodating, but maybe a tad quick to bill a sale. What I was told and what I received were a tad bit different and I didn't notice until I had them bolted on and was storing the crates.
 
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jrandom said:
Wise words. Particularly with this local vendor, they are super nice and very accommodating, but maybe a tad quick to bill a sale. What I was told and what I received were a tad bit different and I didn't notice until I had them bolted on and was storing the crates.
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Never hurts to check with the vendor and the manufacturer when you are spending a good amount of money on a major upgrade!
 
MTN4RNR said:
Just FYI, the 4Runner specific BP-51 system has not been released yet according to ARB as of a week ago. The ones that are available have valves that are tuned to the FJ and not the 4Runner. Might want to double check with Toytec, and contact ARB to confirm if you need to. They said it wouldn't be until mid-late March when the 4Runner specific set up will be available. Best of luck.
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Honest question, how big of a difference is it between the FJC and 4Runner?
 
LandCruiser said:
Honest question, how big of a difference is it between the FJC and 4Runner?
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My uneducated answer is enough for ARB to sell and tune a 4Runner specific version of the BP-51's. The 4Runner curb weight is about 400 pounds more, and GVWR is a bit over 800 pounds maxed out. I don't know what the weight distribution is between the two. But loaded, that 800 pounds would likely make a difference in the way the suspension reacts/responds.
 
The Prado 150 that this system was designed for weighs 2330kg, equal to 5137 lbs. The 4runner TEP comes in at 4750lbs. I can't see it making a difference, but I will call ARB this morning to confirm.
 
T4Ranger said:
The Prado 150 that this system was designed for weighs 2330kg, equal to 5137 lbs. The 4runner TEP comes in at 4750lbs. I can't see it making a difference, but I will call ARB this morning to confirm.
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The shocks are designed for the Prado based vehicles (Prado, FJ, T4R), yes. But they are all tuned for each specific vehicle's weight distribution and weight. Sounds like calling them would be best, straight from the source. Good luck!
 
Spoke with both ARB and Toytec. I am now confident this system works with the 4runner. It gets delivered tomorrow.
 
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