Iowa4Runner said:
There's strike 2... Thinking a college education gives you a "get out of ignorance free" card. Huge mistake.
I'm still waiting for you to explain how I was able to live (several times I might add) though the perilous situations without VSC being there to "save my ass". I'm living proof that you don't know what you're talking about.
So the 4Runner computer "senses the vehicle dynamics thousands of times per second". Did Toyota tell you this or are you just speculating?
What exactly is your experience in applied control systems?
I've never heard anyone bill themselves as a "graduated engineer". What program did you graduate from?
AH HAHAHAHAHA, Strike Two? What are you the thread umpire? What happens if I post again, will I strike out of this thread!?!?!
Wow.
Let me address your concerns:
First of all, I called myself a graduated engineer to show that I'm not still in school and/or speaking out of my ass. Furthermore, I've taken mulitple control theory classes and utilized this training and knowledge in industry. I've analyzed various control systems in vehicles which was a major topic in my education. These control systems included active suspension systems, anti-lock braking systems, stability control systems and the integration of these by using vehicle dynamics (multiple variables) as input.
So to put it a way you can understand, I know enough to be able to tell you that the VSC system in ANY car is programmed to be able to prevent an impending skid. I'm not saying that you couldn't correct it, I'm sure you can drive like Fittapaldi. Also, I'm not saying that the VSC can keep the car under control in ANY condition, after all we still live and die by the rules of physics which is why the computer will try to prevent the "boundries" from being crossed.
Now, I love to spin donuts, hang the tail out around the corner and power on oversteer as much as the next guy, and I can correct it too, maybe not as well you you Mr. Fittapaldi, but I can hold my own. But lets be honest here: There's always a time when you over do it a little and end up facing the wrong way or go off the road a bit or lose control just a little bit, where you aren't really in control, and physics has taken over. For us good drivers, this happens in generally safe low speed situations where the outcome is less than dangerous when we "meant" to do it.
But what happens when you try this at higher speeds? What happens when you have to avoid, say, a deer in the road while your going 60 mph? If you tell me that you can swiftly and safely swerve around the deer and back on the road without any loss of control I'd believe you. But could you do it 10 out of 10 times? If you can't then your in trouble there Mr. Fittapaldi because there are a lot of roads and a lot of deer out there. Another question; Do you think you could you avoid an accident by swerving around a car that ran a red light? Could you do it everyday of the week, day or night? dry or wet? I bet you could. Could you do it 10 out of 10 times? Are you that good? If you can confidently answer yes to those questions, then by all means, disable VSC and never look back. But I GUARANTEE you in those situations VSC would be able to keep the vehicle under control and save your ass. And there's plently of proof out there.
So you keep that attitude/arrogance about your driving skills Mr. Fittapaldi and pretty soon you'll be dead proof that I
do know what I'm talking about.
Check ya later pal.
