Trail Edition is now officially the TRD Off Road
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gilpinbrewer
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I talked to Toyota at the FJ summit yesterday and the thinking on their part is this, the Tundra and Tacoma have TRD Offroad packages and 4Runner has Trail and was not inline with the others. So they wanted to make sure they were all inline. Nothing changes on the package at all. Infact the one they had there said it was actually a 14 Trail on the door label. Haha. Also, dont ever expect true offroad tires on any of these except TRD Pro. It has to do with MPG ratings and the CAFE standard. They have to use these cheap tires to squeek every bit of MPG out of them and it costs a lot to reclassify. The TRD pro has its own rating so is why it gets the better tires.
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cbielat
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So there needs to be a badge placed on the vehicle that says "Off Road" to ensure people that it can go off road? lol. That's just what I got out of this comment. I don't think the FJ's ever had a badge that said "Off Road". It's just a gimmick. I think they may just be trying to tie it in with the Tacoma and Tundra which use the Off Road models.
Toyota's definitely reaching on these decisions lol.
3wbdriver
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It was simple question guys. Remember, roughly half of the country is either ready to vote for a chronic liar or a self important celebrity to be our next president. The marketers are simply playing to the lowest common denominator.
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Racehoss
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Pro doesn't have a sunroof BUT has auto headlights which TEP does not.
c350z
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and that is a big deal, no really, it was to me
The TRD marketing team has finally realized that they can't underestimate American consumers. They must be crying in amazement at the dumb crap people will buy at huge mark-ups as long as it says TRD. There are TRD parts for the Prius. There was even a thread on this forum with people paying actuall dollars to get custom TRD logos made for their floormats.
I would say Toyota is diluting the brand but it's hard to blame them when people just keep eating it up.
I would say Toyota is diluting the brand but it's hard to blame them when people just keep eating it up.
Brandonium
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Auto headlights? I've never had an issue turning them on manually via that switch within arms length when needed...unless there is another function I am unaware of?
Chulksmack
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lame
I tried so hard to get a TRDpro last year from the states but it was damn near imposible as they will only sell you pre-owned.
...so i said screw it and went with the Trail Edition and built my own "TRD" my way.
This is like a slap in the face to Canada who couldnt get the PRO line do to "US" exclusive rights..... we just now can get the Tundra Pro...
Regardless the KDSS suspension mixed with a topshelf aftermarket suspension overhaul kills the Bilstein lift on the TRD pro anyways.. so go pound sand Toyota.
I tried so hard to get a TRDpro last year from the states but it was damn near imposible as they will only sell you pre-owned.
...so i said screw it and went with the Trail Edition and built my own "TRD" my way.
This is like a slap in the face to Canada who couldnt get the PRO line do to "US" exclusive rights..... we just now can get the Tundra Pro...
Regardless the KDSS suspension mixed with a topshelf aftermarket suspension overhaul kills the Bilstein lift on the TRD pro anyways.. so go pound sand Toyota.
cbielat
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It was simple question guys. Remember, roughly half of the country is either ready to vote for a chronic liar or a self important celebrity to be our next president. The marketers are simply playing to the lowest common denominator.
I wasn't knocking ya!
Chulksmack
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[MENTION=76550]cbielat[/MENTION] Yes sir, one of my favorite Snowboard flicks with one of my favorite riders J.P.
Love the scenes filmed right off the coast here near Squamish with the Heli and the boat.
Love the scenes filmed right off the coast here near Squamish with the Heli and the boat.
SuperWhiteTRD
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To each their own I guess. I got 2K off, which seemed to be about the same to the Trail(where I was shopping) Trail's were pretty difficult to get as well.
TRDP seems to be a good buy if you get it discounted a couple K's(some dealers are asking 2-3K over MSRP, which i believe your comment holds weight to). Don't have to get tires or suspension (which would have been my first two mods had i gotten a trail)
Flingwinger
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[MENTION=139644]Chulksmack[/MENTION] I'm also in the lower mainland and wanted a TRD pro but even a used pro would be north of 60k after exchange. Ended up going with the Trail and my icon kit just showed up!
SuperWhiteTRD
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Icon
ICON kit is sick! def trumps TRD PRO suspension. Just Curious.. which stage did you go with ?
ICON kit is sick! def trumps TRD PRO suspension. Just Curious.. which stage did you go with ?
Yay! More badging with lots of little letters to collect mud and dirt while off road!.
This is in line with the new Taco naming and trim convention isn't it?
sandcrawler
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if the Pro owner is going to leave it as-is, gets it for a discount (comparable to negotiations possible on other trims), and has no interest in KDSS and a sunroof, i don't necessarily disagree. so many, though, immediately start upgrading tires and suspension so they're left with what? TRD bric-a-brac, a decent skid, maybe wheels (that are inexplicably narrower than the stock Trail wheels), and—perhaps—an exclusive colorway they paid MSRP—or even more—for. it makes no sense—to me.
however, to each their own, as you said. i'm glad you got some level of discount. and folks are free to do what they please, of course. just as i'm free to scratch my head in befuddlement...
philsey
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if the Pro owner is going to leave it as-is, gets it for a discount (comparable to negotiations possible on other trims), and has no interest in KDSS and a sunroof, i don't necessarily disagree. so many, though, immediately start upgrading tires and suspension so they're left with what? TRD bric-a-brac, a decent skid, maybe wheels (that are inexplicably narrower than the stock Trail wheels), and—perhaps—an exclusive colorway they paid MSRP—or even more—for. it makes no sense—to me.
however, to each their own, as you said. i'm glad you got some level of discount. and folks are free to do what they please, of course. just as i'm free to scratch my head in befuddlement...
Don't disagree, but when Toyota sells every one they make at a higher-than-usual margin, it sure makes for a sound business decision.
sandcrawler
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and i agree with you entirely there, [MENTION=51186]philsey[/MENTION].
as i've said before, i've never been impressed with Toyota's marketing, but i have to concede that the way they've maximized margins with TRD Pro is nothing short of a masterstroke.
too bad this thinking leached into the Trail Edition, though. when TRD truthfully now lacks a credible performance mindset, and devolves into a heavy spritzing of eau-de-faux-bro, i'd vastly prefer the simple cachet of a "trail" vehicle.
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