Trd pro suspension vs icon??

[mgreen6616]

People think that short comments like that (your first post) are someone being inconsiderate (polite way of saying...) but if you look at that persons post count and it is like 800+ or something like that, then I usually say to myself, self, this comment may run deeper, I wonder what is behind it. It is usually that parts of the origninal tread have been hashed out 1000 times so I dig around, find the original topic and see what facts and discussion led to the comment. It is the way you learn, from the knowledge and mistakes of others but it is not always served on a silver platter in life, you often have to dig for it. Just my opinion, as it is my opinion that if you or LawnDart or Antman or many others post something I am going to learn from it so that I don't make mistakes that others have made (though I invariably will and have according to some, KDSS).

You have added to my knowledge with your build thread and contribution to other threads. Infrequent visitors may miss that fact. Cheers.

 

[mgreen6616]

do you spit or swallow? lol just kidding

See, classic ST1FLER, and I'm OK with it No need for hateful reply. Just now learned not to suck up to marshal when ST1FLER is around!

 

[CplTurner]

The Pro suspension can't handle much added weight.

True story.

 

[Desert36]

Okay, got it, Katy perry it is.... Looks like stage 2 for my budget...

 

[bajacolorado]

I have Stage 2. Sure I would have wanted stage 3-7 if I felt I could put that much money in one category of a build. I wanted other items - from tires and lights and racks and... ALL to be less that the stage 6 or 7 on it's own. After driving the new 2016 TE for a while along with 2 off road trips I would be surprised if I would have needed a higher stage. Want - yes - need - no. The Stage 2 applies to my needs from light rock crawling to large camping loads over washboards and modest whoops in Baja. Adjust-ability is the only thing I did not get that i MIGHT need. Not sure yet. But if I do - I will upgrade the rears and consider staging of the Stages approach. That would end up costing more. TBD. My gut says Stage 2 is all I will ever need.

 

[Slow]

Internet hell

 

[Issam]

Hey guys, I know this is an old post but I'm a new member so I can't start my own thread yet. I was offered by the dealership to add on TRD suspension plus tires and TRD wheels for $5000.. coming from a lifted F150 I know a thing or two and I have a feeling based on my knowledge and this thread that doing an Icon lift would make more sense. I haven't purchased a 4Runner yet, still looking around. But my current consideration is a 2016 SR5 then modify with Stage 1 Icon kit, 33" BFG KO2 ATs, and 17" Fuel Rotors. Does that sound like a good set up to y'all? I would go stage 2 but I'll only be doing mild off-roading from time to time just to get to camping spots or to hiking/skiing trails.. so stage 1 should be more than enough?? Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[blacksheep4]

I was offered by the dealership to add on TRD suspension plus tires and TRD wheels for $5000..

Yeah that's a ripoff. You could get a setup similar (better) than that for less than 4k plus labor.

 

[Engineer]

Hey guys, I know this is an old post but I'm a new member so I can't start my own thread yet. I was offered by the dealership to add on TRD suspension plus tires and TRD wheels for $5000.. coming from a lifted F150 I know a thing or two and I have a feeling based on my knowledge and this thread that doing an Icon lift would make more sense. I haven't purchased a 4Runner yet, still looking around. But my current consideration is a 2016 SR5 then modify with Stage 1 Icon kit, 33" BFG KO2 ATs, and 17" Fuel Rotors. Does that sound like a good set up to y'all? I would go stage 2 but I'll only be doing mild off-roading from time to time just to get to camping spots or to hiking/skiing trails.. so stage 1 should be more than enough?? Any help is greatly appreciated.

For about half that you can get yourself a set of OME or Bilstein 5100's, aftermarket wheels and a nice set of tires of your choice and UCA.

I have nothing against rebuildable shocks (have a set myself) but I don't think they are a good value to most end users

 

[Issam]

Thanks for the feedback. Do UCAs make a huge difference in minor off-roading? and what exactly do rebuildable shocks mean or what difference is there with non-rebuildable, this is my first time hearing that term.

Also my biggest concern and only thing really holding me back from pulling the trigger on the 4runner is the engine power. I know its a solid reliable engine but my last two vehicles have been turbos with big torque (F150 3.5 EcoBoost & Audi S3) so I'm worried that I will hate the power particularly living in colorado and making weekend trips to the mountains with steep grades. Any tips or advice on that?

 

[CO-Cygnus]

$5000..

:drum:

That was a joke, right? The dealer WAS joking?

If not, then back away very slowly. Make yourself as large and threatening as possible, but do not make direct eye contact.

Also my biggest concern and only thing really holding me back from pulling the trigger on the 4runner is the engine power. I know its a solid reliable engine but my last two vehicles have been turbos with big torque (F150 3.5 EcoBoost & Audi S3) so I'm worried that I will hate the power particularly living in colorado and making weekend trips to the mountains with steep grades. Any tips or advice on that?

My GF's turbo forester is quicker and more 'driveable' over Berthoud. The 4R is livable, but do not expect Twin-Scroll turbo, full torque @ 2K RPM. You have to rev the motor in the 4R quite a bit.

 

[GzTEP]

Icon 2.5's with CDC

 

[cartrouble]

:drum:

That was a joke, right? The dealer WAS joking?

If not, then back away very slowly. Make yourself as large and threatening as possible, but do not make direct eye contact.



My GF's turbo forester is quicker and more 'driveable' over Berthoud. The 4R is livable, but do not expect Twin-Scroll turbo, full torque @ 2K RPM. You have to rev the motor in the 4R quite a bit.

I had the same offer when I went in looking for the TRD Pro, did my research afterwards and decided Trail Premium was what I wanted.

 

[Dorobuta]

Seems to me if your going to replace a trd pro suspension then just go with a trail. Unless you really like the trim package and or paint colors you can only get with a pro. If those are not an issue then a trail premium would be your best bet.

exactly the route I went, Trail Premium, then ICON stage 2. No regrets.

 

[Issam]

:drum:

That was a joke, right? The dealer WAS joking?

If not, then back away very slowly. Make yourself as large and threatening as possible, but do not make direct eye contact.



My GF's turbo forester is quicker and more 'driveable' over Berthoud. The 4R is livable, but do not expect Twin-Scroll turbo, full torque @ 2K RPM. You have to rev the motor in the 4R quite a bit.

Right, totally ridiculous. And okay, that's what I figured. It's tough. In terms of space and capability the 4R is exactly what I want/need.

exactly the route I went, Trail Premium, then ICON stage 2. No regrets.

Have any pics? That's just about the same set up I'm considering.

 

[YOLO]

I have Stage 2. Sure I would have wanted stage 3-7 if I felt I could put that much money in one category of a build. I wanted other items - from tires and lights and racks and... ALL to be less that the stage 6 or 7 on it's own. After driving the new 2016 TE for a while along with 2 off road trips I would be surprised if I would have needed a higher stage. Want - yes - need - no. The Stage 2 applies to my needs from light rock crawling to large camping loads over washboards and modest whoops in Baja. Adjust-ability is the only thing I did not get that i MIGHT need. Not sure yet. But if I do - I will upgrade the rears and consider staging of the Stages approach. That would end up costing more. TBD. My gut says Stage 2 is all I will ever need.

I went with Stage 2 and love it. I like the idea of personalizing my 4Runner. I can spend a little less on an SR5, put in the leather I WANT, the suspension I WANT, etc

 

[cutty01]

Hey guys, I know this is an old post but I'm a new member so I can't start my own thread yet. I was offered by the dealership to add on TRD suspension plus tires and TRD wheels for $5000.. coming from a lifted F150 I know a thing or two and I have a feeling based on my knowledge and this thread that doing an Icon lift would make more sense. I haven't purchased a 4Runner yet, still looking around. But my current consideration is a 2016 SR5 then modify with Stage 1 Icon kit, 33" BFG KO2 ATs, and 17" Fuel Rotors. Does that sound like a good set up to y'all? I would go stage 2 but I'll only be doing mild off-roading from time to time just to get to camping spots or to hiking/skiing trails.. so stage 1 should be more than enough?? Any help is greatly appreciated.

You could also get a set of nearly identical Bilstein 6112/5160 plus a pair of 1.5" SAW (or Toytec 2" Superflex) coils for about $1,350 plus $650 for labor.

 

[cutty01]

Thanks for the feedback. Do UCAs make a huge difference in minor off-roading? and what exactly do rebuildable shocks mean or what difference is there with non-rebuildable, this is my first time hearing that term.

Aftermarket UCAs are mostly for getting back within alignment specs when going over 2.5" of lift. Be aware, some of uniball UCAs can be noisy once they get dirt and grit in them.

The rebuildable shocks are typical with higher end/high performance shocks and need to be rebuilt about every 30k to 50k or so to keep up the high performance characteristics. I decided to go with the Bilsteins because I couldn't afford the down time (and didnt want to pay for the cost of labor) when the shocks were being rebuilt.

 

[CO-Cygnus]

Right, totally ridiculous. And okay, that's what I figured. It's tough. In terms of space and capability the 4R is exactly what I want/need.

In my opinion, the engine/transmission combo is the only weak part. It was fine when I lived in MD, but it's a bit overwhelmed out here. There are no viable competitors in the current market though.

We'll see what Gen 6 has to offer against the upcoming Ford Bronco, that could get interesting in 3/4 years.

 

[mattyrides07]

I have had ICONs for the past couple Toyotas. I went with the Stage 2 because I needed the UCA to fit 33s.