VLED LED headlight a bust?

[Hawaiian4runner]

Just installed my H11 LED headlights. Was a bit of a pain. Had to remove part of bumper skin and headlight for clearance. It's still daylight but initial test says this is crap. No cutoff! Dead spot in middle. Not very wide spread. Waiting for darkness. Hope my first impression is wrong. Nice white light is about the only good thing I can say at this time.

 

[NoDak]

um did you buy the 850 lumen drl/fog light leds or the 2000 lumen kit? if you bought the 2000 lumen kit, do you have projectors or regular reflector housings.

 

[Hawaiian4runner]

um did you buy the 850 lumen drl/fog light leds or the 2000 lumen kit? if you bought the 2000 lumen kit, do you have projectors or regular reflector housings.

2000 lumen. Regular reflector housing. Confirmed tonight. Total crap. No cutoff whatsoever. Coming off tomorrow. Maybe I'll use them as fogs.

 

[Hawaiian4runner]

4everrunner, can't believe you gave these a good review. I should have known better, after all you were running around with non projector HIDs.

 

[4everunner]

I liked mine at first, but not anymore. I'm thinking about hid again, maybe Phillips this time. Also, I was thinking to try to fit these in high beam.

 

[swimmerdude1127]

I liked mine at first, but not anymore. I'm thinking about hid again, maybe Phillips this time. Also, I was thinking to try to fit these in high beam.

I assume you mean a HID in a projector? High end HID bulbs in regular housings are not supposed to be used together. That's why projectors have a sharp cutoff--- to prevent blinding other drivers on the road.

You're talking about going from about 1500 lumens to 3000+ per light with a good HID bulb IIRC.

 

[NoDak]

2000 lumen. Regular reflector housing. Confirmed tonight. Total crap. No cutoff whatsoever. Coming off tomorrow. Maybe I'll use them as fogs.

well I think there is your problem. your using a regular housing designed for a standard bulb, not a led/hid bulb.

 

[Hawaiian4runner]

well I think there is your problem. your using a regular housing designed for a standard bulb, not a led/hid bulb.

That's why I asked about cutoff in previous thread. Others who responded obviously have no clue what cutoff is. These are total crap. For that matter there are no projectors designed for these LEDs anyway.

 

[Hawaiian4runner]

Jeez, this whole thread is shite.



So, you criticize for the wrong bulb in the wrong headlight, and then install an LED in a reflector? Genius.



And you admit the LED in the LB reflector is bad, so you're gonna put it in the HB reflector? Genius part deux.

And I suppose you're putting HIDs in your LB reflectors too, eh? Ah why not?
Genius
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VLED ad says they act well with reflector. They don't! Said I was putting in fogs. Not HB. I use fogs offroad only so no bigs. HBs don't have cutoff so Could be used but not enough output. And why so hostile? You work for VLEDs? I asked for input cause I was skeptical. Got bad advice. I think others want to know too.

 

[philsey]

VLED ad says they act well with reflector. They don't! Said I was putting in fogs. Not HB. I use fogs offroad only so no bigs. HBs don't have cutoff so Could be used but not enough output. And why so hostile? You work for VLEDs? I asked for input cause I was skeptical. Got bad advice. I think others want to know too.

Yeh, too much, sorry. I just have a hardon for poor lighting with all the info that is out there. I blame caffeine (this time).

I deleted it, but I see you've busted me. BTW, the second criticism was not directed at you.

:bolt:

 

[4everunner]

Yeh, too much, sorry. I just have a hardon for poor lighting with all the info that is out there. I blame caffeine (this time).

I deleted it, but I see you've busted me. BTW, the second criticism was not directed at you.

:bolt:

I assume the second criticism was directed at me? :fencing:
I would like to read it, why you delete it??? :nono::hungry:

 

[blizzardwhite]

Coming off tomorrow. Maybe I'll use them as fogs.

your're not going to like them as fogs either... they dont work to well there.

 

[eddiebx]

I assume the second criticism was directed at me? :fencing:
I would like to read it, why you delete it??? :nono::hungry:

Look up just a little bit further, lol.

[MENTION=68101]Hawaiian4runner[/MENTION], is it possible for you to take some cut off shot pictures since you have them already...might as well post some up so people in the future don't make the same mistake as you. A picture is worth a thousand words

Sorry it didn't work out for you, I think you might actually be disappointed with them in the fogs as well unless you are just looking for raw omnidirectional light output?

Granted I've never used a set of these LEDs yet, but it's probably going to suck for similar reasons as swapping HID capsules into halogen reflector housings...the key to having a proper output pattern is mimicking the halogen's filament as close as possible (since that's what the reflector is designed to reflect).

Below you see a halogen filament vs an HID arc:

You see how similar these are in nature, yet reflectors already have trouble controlling the stray light from the HID arc and outputting a nice clean light pattern...now imagine throwing in two flat LED that only fires unidirectional light up and down? You're missing 180 degrees of coverage which would explain why you noticed dead spots.

IMO, LED technology is just not there yet for a suitable drop in/plug-n-play halogen replacement, and I'm not sure if there will ever be, kind of apples and oranges in the lighting world here.

It's really tough to go based on customer reviews for these kind of things, since not everyone is as particular as you and I, or [MENTION=51186]philsey[/MENTION], LOL. Some people would be 100% happy with these just like how others out there drop in 10000k HID bulbs into reflector housings and will rant and rave about how much "better" they are than halogen bulbs. Sucks you had to take the plunge but thanks for posting unbiased reviews

VLED's return policy is pretty good...have you thought about possibly returning them for a refund?

 

[NoDak]

personally I will be looking into getting the 850 lumen led fogs. I use the fogs mostly for filler light since the low beams have a somewhat cutoff closer to the vehicle than I care for. but I haven't decided if I want such a dramatic difference in light color coming off the vehicle between the lows and fogs.

I may just go silverstars or other quality brand of halogen bulbs that are close to 5k across the board than trying to put in HIDs all around.

edit :

Sylvania silverstar ultra : 4100k
Sylvania silverstar zxe : 4200k
Osram silverstar 2.0 : 4000k

clarifying original post. you should get the osram silverstars as those are better than the Sylvania version which have a blue shield on them.

 

[4everunner]

Just installed my H11 LED headlights. Was a bit of a pain. Had to remove part of bumper skin and headlight for clearance. It's still daylight but initial test says this is crap. No cutoff! Dead spot in middle. Not very wide spread. Waiting for darkness. Hope my first impression is wrong. Nice white light is about the only good thing I can say at this time.

I forgot to mention that when I bought mine, I asked them if they going to have something brighter. Something similar to HID. I was told that they are working on it. I think you wont get better cutoff anyway, because you don't have a projectors.
Also, I like output of VLED much better vs cheap HID kit (that's what I had). Its just not as bright as HID, but better than stock.

 

[4everunner]

Here is a brightness of VLED. Not best pic I know. But since I had it on my phone I decided to post it. This place is totally dark at night.

Edit: Hey, its not bad!!! I don't understand why I complain I Like it again)))))

 

[4everunner]

Here is another one with High Beams on--------

 

[Intruder]

personally I will be looking into getting the 850 lumen led fogs. I use the fogs mostly for filler light since the low beams have a somewhat cutoff closer to the vehicle than I care for. but I haven't decided if I want such a dramatic difference in light color coming off the vehicle between the lows and fogs.

Keep in mind the LEDs probably won't generate enough heat to melt the ice on the lenses in winter. That's one thing that kept me from even trying out the LEDs as headlights or otherwise.

I may just go silverstars or other quality brand of halogen bulbs that are close to 5k across the board than trying to put in HIDs all around.

edit :

silverstar ultra : 4100k
silverstar zxe : 4200k
silverstar : 4000k

Silverstars are not quality, in fact they're pretty much garbage. Read this for more info:
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

 

[NoDak]

I guess I should clarify, I meant the osram silver stars, not the crappy sylvania's silver stars

I've had the Sylvania silver stars and they are great if you want them to only last a year.

osram silverstar 2.0

[MENTION=66300]Intruder[/MENTION] and thanks for the link, I will have to look into the Philips or GE ones.

 

[NoDak]

well phooey, none of those make a H11 bulb w/o blue tint. they make the 9005 version though.