Went wheelin yesterday in my mostly stock 4th gen.

[bigwebb83]

So I found a spot near me that I could do a little wheelin to test out the capabilities of my new truck. I went yesterday after it had rained all day saturday and road on probably about 3 or 4 miles worth of trails that got down right nasty in some spots. Overall I was very impressed with the ability of my t4r with hankook all season on it. There was one spot where i got in some particularly deep mucky ruts where I thought I was stuck but ended up being able to back out and turn around and reroute. I was especially pleased with how it did on steep rocky and muddy inclines. ATRAC just keeps that baby movin. Only aired down to about 35 psi too.

Like I said I was overall very pleased but I deffinitely want to get a little more lift than the 1" cornfed leveling kit is providing. I think I'm gonna go with the 2/1 + fj springs that I have in my garage for a little extra ground clearance and a little better tire. I'm thinking of going with the hankook dynapro atm 255/70/18 at the moment. I think this will give me just enough off road traction to do what I want while still maintaining good on road manners. Will post up pics later of her all muddied up.

 

[4RNNR]

sounds like fun

keep us posted when you do your suspension build

 

[Ross]

So I found a spot near me that I could do a little wheelin to test out the capabilities of my new truck. I went yesterday after it had rained all day saturday and road on probably about 3 or 4 miles worth of trails that got down right nasty in some spots. Overall I was very impressed with the ability of my t4r with hankook all season on it. There was one spot where i got in some particularly deep mucky ruts where I thought I was stuck but ended up being able to back out and turn around and reroute. I was especially pleased with how it did on steep rocky and muddy inclines. ATRAC just keeps that baby movin. Only aired down to about 35 psi too. Like I said I was overall very pleased but I deffinitely want to get a little more lift than the 1" cornfed leveling kit is providing. I think I'm gonna go with the 2/1 + fj springs that I have in my garage for a little extra ground clearance and a little better tire. I'm thinking of going with the hankook dynapro atm 255/70/18 at the moment. I think this will give me just enough off road traction to do what I want while still maintaining good on road manners. Will post up pics later of her all muddied up.

What PSI do you usually wheel at. 35psi seems to be allot, even on the road.

 

[bigwebb83]

35psi was with the tires warm. PSI is usually measured when cold so these would've likely been in the upper 20's when cold. I usually ride around at 38psi cold.

 

[bigwebb83]

I wonder how much extra traction might have been had when i nearly got stuck if I had aired down to 25psi? any thoughts?

 

[HB 4X4]

I wonder how much extra traction might have been had when i nearly got stuck if I had aired down to 25psi? any thoughts?

Next time, take them down to 18psi. If they are P rated tires then try 20-22 so you don't expose the sidewall as much.

 

[Ross]

I wonder how much extra traction might have been had when i nearly got stuck if I had aired down to 25psi? any thoughts?

If you didn't get stuck than whatever you did was fine.


I really don't wheel my 4Runner allot but I have another vehicle I wheel very hard, I will air down to about 8-12 psi. It has larger tires and is lifted.

When you air down you will lose clearance, you also stand the chance of the tire coming off the rim, it is a double edged sword. In a stock 4Runner you probably won't be doing anything to difficult. I would think about 20-25psi would be a good place to start.

38 psi is probably over inflated. There should be a sticker in you door jam that tells you want to air up to.

 

[Levinz11]

:worthless

 

[4RunnERD]

If you didn't get stuck than whatever you did was fine.


I really don't wheel my 4Runner allot but I have another vehicle I wheel very hard, I will air down to about 8-12 psi. It has larger tires and is lifted.

When you air down you will lose clearance, you also stand the chance of the tire coming off the rim, it is a double edged sword. In a stock 4Runner you probably won't be doing anything to difficult. I would think about 20-25psi would be a good place to start.

38 psi is probably over inflated. There should be a sticker in you door jam that tells you want to air up to.

Are you talking warm or cold???? I am thinking warm since you most likely have to drive to where ever your wheelin?

 

[Ross]

Are you talking warm or cold???? I am thinking warm since you most likely have to drive to where ever your wheelin?

The recommendations Toyota puts on the vehicle are for cold or ambient temperature, for normal driving with a normally equipped vehicle.

Once you get to the place to wheel the tires will be warm so the "rule" is thrown out, so it isn't going to be exact.

 

[bigwebb83]

door jam says 32psi. I run 38 on the road for gas mileage. I don't feel this is overinflated and doesn't adversely affect wear or safety. Next time I will air down farther.

 

[bigwebb83]

If you didn't get stuck than whatever you did was fine.


I really don't wheel my 4Runner allot but I have another vehicle I wheel very hard, I will air down to about 8-12 psi. It has larger tires and is lifted.

When you air down you will lose clearance, you also stand the chance of the tire coming off the rim, it is a double edged sword. In a stock 4Runner you probably won't be doing anything to difficult. I would think about 20-25psi would be a good place to start.

38 psi is probably over inflated. There should be a sticker in you door jam that tells you want to air up to.

If I hadn't had the option to back up and turn around and go another way I would've been/was stuck. it wasn't deep mud but they were deep ruts and the mud was slippery. When I got out to look there was no rubber from teh tires exposed, they were completely caked in mud.

 

[Ross]

If I hadn't had the option to back up and turn around and go another way I would've been/was stuck. it wasn't deep mud but they were deep ruts and the mud was slippery. When I got out to look there was no rubber from teh tires exposed, they were completely caked in mud.

Stock tires will take you only so far regardless of what psi you run.

 

[bigwebb83]

^ yeah I can't help but wonder how my hankook dynapro ATM's would've done. Deffinitely don't want to move to a dedicated mud tire.

 

[Ross]

^ yeah I can't help but wonder how my hankook dynapro ATM's would've done. Deffinitely don't want to move to a dedicated mud tire.

There are some more aggressive tires that will do well in mud and still be good on the road.

 

[bigwebb83]

There are some more aggressive tires that will do well in mud and still be good on the road.

What are you thinking? Duratracs?

 

[Ross]

What are you thinking? Duratracs?

Duratracs are more of an AT tire, but I have heard good things about them. They may be a good choice. Good Year MTRs are more aggressive and are an excellent multipurpose off-road tire that does very good on road. I have TrXus MTs for off roading on my jeep. They very good off road and very good on road, a little noisy and harder to balance. They where faster than you may want for a daily driver.

 

[bigwebb83]

Duratracs are more of an AT tire, but I have heard good things about them. They may be a good choice. Good Year MTRs are more aggressive and are an excellent multipurpose off-road tire that does very good on road. I have TrXus MTs for off roading on my jeep. They very good off road and very good on road, a little noisy and harder to balance. They where faster than you may want for a daily driver.

the mtr's wear faster? What is the road noise like with them?

 

[Trevloc]

i love my nittos. i got them becuase i do alot of road, and only hit dirt/mud up once in awhile. i didnt notice a noise difference. and they last.

 

[Ross]

the mtr's wear faster? What is the road noise like with them?

They will probably wear faster than a more traditional street tire but they war very well compared to most other more aggressive tires. I could get about 45-50K out of the old style MTRs on my jeep.

Probably some noise, my jeep is a soft top so once I get up to highway speed if there is noise I wouldn't hear it. I would bet they are noisier than a street tire.