What would you change on the 5th gen?

Am I crazy or does this thread occur weekly?

Anyways, I would like for there to not be a huge bump when seats are down. I like sleeping back there.
 
I'd make it unibody with independent suspension all around. Make it front wheel drive based so that it doesn't fishtail on slick roads too. Drop that ancient 5-speed for a nice and modern CVT.
 
When hunting dusk or dawn from the vehicle, I don't need lights on scaring game away. With no way to turn them off. Kind of make me look like a flatlander... no offense meant.

Oh no, my bad. Just was looking for the motivation. That was the one thing I didn't like about the models I've test driven, but if trading something with a 150k life for something that will last twice as long means giving up auto lights, then sign me up.
 
I would change people asking stupid questions on this forum......:plane:

ie/// what lift can I run, what size tire, how can I get more power. SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most of which comes from the 5.5gen guys as if this truck as not been out for 6 years now with the same engine and body
 
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limited trim has smart key as well.

I wish the limited model had:
1.) 8" or wider wheels so I can properly run a wider AT tire
2.) HID or new fancy LEDs from the factory
3.) Matching HID or fancy LEDs for the fog lights
4.) Google or Apple car stereo
5.) 6spd auto
6.) 23+ MPG average
7.) 600 lbs lighter overall vehicle

I would not want a 2" taller roof, as it is you are very very tight on clearance with most parking garages in big cities.
 
Really taking a hard look at purchasing a 2010 or 2011 Trail. From what I've seen these trucks are well built and overall very solid.

To play devil's advocate, if you could change anything on the 5th gen what would it be? Any dislikes?

I've owned a 3rd gen before and it was a blast!

Cheers!
Lots to like about the 5th gen but lots of room for improvement.

#1 issue is the motor and transmission.
If this truck had a chevy 5.3 Ecotec V8 and the 6l80 transmission, I would be so happy with it that I would buy 2 or 3 so I could have spares. It would get better mpg and have 40% more power. It's simply underpowered and impossible to get more power out of it as it sits.

#2 issue is that its a little too bulky. A few inches shorter in the rear would make it absolutely stellar offroad.

#3 AC is a little weak for 105+... All my other cars (all GM) have much better climate control systems.
 
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Headlights need a lot of improvement.

Sound proofing. I should be able to carry a normal toned conversation on the highway.

Interior lighting.

More user friendly navigation. Maybe I've been using it wrong, but I always end up using my phone and Google Maps.

Heated seat controls on the actual seats.

More gauges.

Manual transmission.

+2 MPG

More HP & TQ
 
-Add a 1UR-FE (4.6L V8) or even a 3UR-FE (5.7L V8... are we being realistic here or wishing? :P )
-Change the interior ergonomics slightly (everything feels "off" in every 5th gen I drive, not enough that it's a horrible vehicle; but always enough that it's never comfortable in that way your favorite pair of boots are)
-Bring back the T3 Torsen with the "manual" transfercase options currently offered
-LED Headlights
-A 6-speed transmission wouldn't hurt I suppose.
-Remove (Blind Spot Monitoring),
-Center Console Cooler (okay, this is just wishful thinking... but they're so cool in the Land Cruisers, pun intended)
-Eh, I suppose an Android stereo would be interesting; I don't mind the Entune stuff to be honest... but then again I don't really use a head unit for much more than music and maybe navigation...
-No Sunroof
-A factory rear locker wouldn't be a bad thing I suppose?
-Slightly better wheel wells to accommodate 35" tires better.
-An OLED Instrument Cluster (honestly, the new clusters that are just a computer screen are awesome, the sheer potential for customization/features is highly intriguing.)
-Beefier alternator and inverter (the factory 120v inverter is pretty stout, but I'd like a bit more power on tap.)

I think that's it for now really, I'm not into the ritzy luxury stuff as much as I want more power, capability, and function.

When hunting dusk or dawn from the vehicle, I don't need lights on scaring game away. With no way to turn them off. It would make me look like a flatlander... no offense meant.

If you switch it to the "DRL OFF" or "OFF" setting on the headlight stalk it should force the lights to turn out completely even on an "Auto" Headlight system. The Auto function is typically user selected on Toyotas, meaning it will function like a regular headlamp system unless you put it in "Auto."
 
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Moar POWR

This^^^!

That is really the only thing I would change. I don't care how they would get it it either. V8, turbo, supercharged, diesel, or just unlock the ECM so it could be tuned like GM.

-Add a 1UR-FE (4.6L V8) or even a 3UR-FE (5.7L V8... are we being realistic here or wishing? :P )
-Change the interior ergonomics slightly (everything feels "off" in every 5th gen I drive, not enough that it's a horrible vehicle; but always enough that it's never comfortable in that way your favorite pair of boots are)
-Bring back the T3 Torsen with the "manual" transfercase options currently offered
-LED Headlights
-A 6-speed transmission wouldn't hurt I suppose.
-Remove (Blind Spot Monitoring),
-Center Console Cooler (okay, this is just wishful thinking... but they're so cool in the Land Cruisers, pun intended)
-Eh, I suppose an Android stereo would be interesting; I don't mind the Entune stuff to be honest... but then again I don't really use a head unit for much more than music and maybe navigation...
-No Sunroof
-A factory rear locker wouldn't be a bad thing I suppose?
-Slightly better wheel wells to accommodate 35" tires better.
-An OLED Instrument Cluster (honestly, the new clusters that are just a computer screen are awesome, the sheer potential for customization/features is highly intriguing.)
-Beefier alternator and inverter (the factory 120v inverter is pretty stout, but I'd like a bit more power on tap.)

I think that's it for now really, I'm not into the ritzy luxury stuff as much as I want more power, capability, and function.

This really sums it up perfect if we're dreaming.
 
I almost ordered a TRDPro but the auto headlights was the deal breaker and I went with the Trail Premium. Probably not a big issue to delete but idk, I didn't want the hassle.
Have you looked into eliminating yours?

No, I don't need too. I like the auto lights. Like several others have said you just move the switch to DRL off and all of the lights are switched off.
 
After 4 years and 60,000 miles in a Limited.....I would change nothing!

Hence why I still drive a stock 4runner.

I beg to differ ... unless you NEVER take your truck offroad you would not be a fan of those 7 inch wide 20 inch wheels! Would it hurt to make these 7.5 wide? :frusty:
 
30 more hp/ftlbs, a 6th gear (and an available manual trans), and at least 200lbs lighter. Honestly though, I'd say that about just about any car or truck out there.
 
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....and auto headlights, but I've survived my first 90 days without them. It's been tough, and at times I've drawn up my will and left a note for family, but alas I've pulled through.
 
General storage is an issue for me, I actually had more in my Tundra Double cab. There isn't a good place to put stuff like jumper cables, tow straps etc. Of course a 5.7L V8 option would slam this truck in to one of the meanest on the roads in any class. Most people customize audio/visual equipment after a couple years of ownership, so non-issue for me. Other than that, it's one of the most functional and reliable trucks out there.
 
No, I don't need too. I like the auto lights. Like several others have said you just move the switch to DRL off and all of the lights are switched off.
I was unaware of that. I was under the impression that when dark enough, the light sensor would automatically turn on the lights when vehicle was in drive.
 
The one thing I don't like about my 2013 SR5 is the color of the display, when the sunroof is open or I have sunglasses on I can't see anything on the display.

Other than that, I pretty much love it.
 
Honestly I have no other real complaints except for the rather poorly designed tailgate window wiper. Totally anemic compared to other trucks and cars.
 

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