Wheel camber off after lift

[MarkamisPrime]

What [MENTION=120071]mtbtim[/MENTION] said
And post your alignment specs and I'll tell you what needs to be done to fix it. So you can tell the guy aligning it what needs to be done.
It's absolutely no different aligning a lifted, lowered, or stock vehicle. All you have to do I look at the screen and move the correct cam and or tie rod until the screen says your in the green.
Not very difficult.
But guys are lazy or just don't really understand what they are doing when they preform an alignment it sucks but that's the reality.
Just like when we did the LCA bushings for Kurt and he showed his specs, the lazy asses didn't even adjust camber because it was in the green. It was way off but it was in the green so they left it alone all they did was set caster to 3 degrees because he asked them to and then they set the toe and let it go. And people are paying sometimes $100+ for this cause your "lifted" its complete BS.

 

[UnderFire]

Look for a small mom and pop shop instead of a chain store. They may be able to take the time to redial everything in instead of a quick one two and out the door type of job. It took about 4 hours for my shop of choice to do my tires and alignment, bit it is perfect and has stayed perfect.

 

[r1mattrr]

Having same issue

Hi all, I seem to be having this same issue after doing the Bilstein 5100 front lift. The tech left the front with .6 positive camber on both sides, 2.7 caster, and .05 total toe. Drove fine so I thought nothing of it. 2 weeks later now and I'm noticing feathered edges on the outside of my front tires. I checked the alignment myself and I am showing 1/4" of toe in??? Camber is still .6 on the RF and now .1 on the LF. Caster is still 2.7 both sides. Attached are pictures of 3 of my eccentrics that look like something is f*d up? One of them is upside down, another has the eccentric in 2 different adjustments on the same bolt causing it to be at an angle in the bushing, the other has the eccentric over top of the tab.

 

[jkeith.w]

Attached are pictures of 3 of my eccentrics that look like something is f*d up? One of them is upside down, another has the eccentric in 2 different adjustments on the same bolt causing it to be at an angle in the bushing, the other has the eccentric over top of the tab.

Yeah, that alignment needs to be redone - and that tab is probably bent, from the looks of it.

 

[mtbtim]

Hi all, I seem to be having this same issue after doing the Bilstein 5100 front lift. The tech left the front with .6 positive camber on both sides, 2.7 caster, and .05 total toe. Drove fine so I thought nothing of it. 2 weeks later now and I'm noticing feathered edges on the outside of my front tires. I checked the alignment myself and I am showing 1/4" of toe in??? Camber is still .6 on the RF and now .1 on the LF. Caster is still 2.7 both sides. Attached are pictures of 3 of my eccentrics that look like something is f*d up? One of them is upside down, another has the eccentric in 2 different adjustments on the same bolt causing it to be at an angle in the bushing, the other has the eccentric over top of the tab.

In that second pic, that cam adjuster looks way off. Maybe the bolt wasn't tightened enough by the alignment shop and it was able to turn on it's own.

 

[JayRolla]

I agree. Cam bolt on one pic is not flush and looks loose. You need to get it aligned again and at a different shop. Tell the shop you want 0 -.1 toe in, 0 -.1 camber and as muck caster as possible. You should end up with 1.5 - 2.0 caster on stock uca's.

 

[r1mattrr]

Thanks! That's what I was thinking also, just wanted to get a few second opinions before I go ask for my money back. Apparently if you want it done right you have to do it yourself.

 

[jkeith.w]

Thanks! That's what I was thinking also, just wanted to get a few second opinions before I go ask for my money back. Apparently if you want it done right you have to do it yourself.

Just need to research your service provider beforehand. Alignments aren't really a DIY thing.


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[mtbtim]

Just need to research your service provider beforehand. Alignments aren't really a DIY thing.


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Yeah, what he said. I've actually been within spec by doing an eyeball driveway alignment but I'd never suggest someone to do it and call it good. It's just to get you to the alignment shop. Take it to a shop that gets good Yelp reviews and actually stand there and watch them do it with their lasers and computer. I have a feeling most shops don't bother torquing the cam adjuster bolts. You can double-check the torque values after their done if you have your own torque wrench but unless you have a special type of open end wrench that can connect to a torque wrench, you won't be able to check the torque of the cam adjusters on the rear closest to the steering rack. The steering rack shaft and boot get in the way of getting a socket on the bolt head.

 

[JayRolla]

Yeah, what he said. I've actually been within spec by doing an eyeball driveway alignment but I'd never suggest someone to do it and call it good. It's just to get you to the alignment shop. Take it to a shop that gets good Yelp reviews and actually stand there and watch them do it with their lasers and computer. I have a feeling most shops don't bother torquing the cam adjuster bolts. You can double-check the torque values after their done if you have your own torque wrench but unless you have a special type of open end wrench that can connect to a torque wrench, you won't be able to check the torque of the cam adjusters on the rear closest to the steering rack. The steering rack shaft and boot get in the way of getting a socket on the bolt head.

Thats what I love about the SPC cams. You can put both bolts on the inside so TQ wrench is not an issue fitting.

I was thinking about trying one of the RV/Big tire Quicktrick alignments. I think its like $500 and heard they work pretty good. For how much alignments Ive paid for in my life this thing would have paid its self off many times. And you can do your buddies.

https://www.quicktrickalignment.com/

 

[jkeith.w]

Yeah, what he said. I've actually been within spec by doing an eyeball driveway alignment but I'd never suggest someone to do it and call it good. It's just to get you to the alignment shop. Take it to a shop that gets good Yelp reviews and actually stand there and watch them do it with their lasers and computer. I have a feeling most shops don't bother torquing the cam adjuster bolts. You can double-check the torque values after their done if you have your own torque wrench but unless you have a special type of open end wrench that can connect to a torque wrench, you won't be able to check the torque of the cam adjusters on the rear closest to the steering rack. The steering rack shaft and boot get in the way of getting a socket on the bolt head.

I'd ask them to put anti-tamper/torque paint on the eccentrics also - so that you can do a visual check if you think they might've slipped.


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[r1mattrr]

I have a longacre digital caster/camber gauge. I've only tested it so far against the paperwork I've been given after having an alignment done on 2 different vehicles. So far it has been suprisingly accurate. Pretty sure I can make a mess of things just as good as anybody. For toe in I use a toe bar with pointers on each end.

 

[r1mattrr]

pic of aforementioned alignment

 

[hounddogman]

I was thinking about trying one of the RV/Big tire Quicktrick alignments. I think its like $500 and heard they work pretty good. For how much alignments Ive paid for in my life this thing would have paid its self off many times. And you can do your buddies.

https://www.quicktrickalignment.com/

Yes , you need to buy this . you can test it out on my 4runner .:hug: