Who Actually Follows 10,000 mile oil change schedule?
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vicpick58
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I have changed my oil every 5k miles up until now. Have sent samples in to Blackstone a few times, all good, plenty of additive left.
So I have decided to try one 10k interval and have it tested, I changed at 60k miles and now have 68k and going for 70k miles before changing oil. I will send a sample to Blackstone and see what the report says.
If all is good, this will prove to me that it can be done, if the report comes back marginal then I will continue my 5k intervals.
I chose this time of year (winter in CA) to do this test because there is less dust and the ambient temperatures are not so hot. The 60k miles oil change was in November the 70k should come up in early March.
I use the Toyota brand 0w20 synthetic oil and either Toyota or Purolator filters.
I plan to post the Blackstone 10k oil report when it arrives.
So I have decided to try one 10k interval and have it tested, I changed at 60k miles and now have 68k and going for 70k miles before changing oil. I will send a sample to Blackstone and see what the report says.
If all is good, this will prove to me that it can be done, if the report comes back marginal then I will continue my 5k intervals.
I chose this time of year (winter in CA) to do this test because there is less dust and the ambient temperatures are not so hot. The 60k miles oil change was in November the 70k should come up in early March.
I use the Toyota brand 0w20 synthetic oil and either Toyota or Purolator filters.
I plan to post the Blackstone 10k oil report when it arrives.
LandCruiser
New member
You pay for the oil change?
Dealer recommends every 3-4k.
Dealer pays for the oil change?
Suddenly it's 10k.
Once you were supposed to change the t-case and diff fluids every 25-30k.
Now that trucks have 60k plus warranties and service plans... you're not supposed to touch them, they're "sealed."
Odd how that is.
Also, I'd like to really know what "severe conditions" are, really.
Dealer recommends every 3-4k.
Dealer pays for the oil change?
Suddenly it's 10k.
Once you were supposed to change the t-case and diff fluids every 25-30k.
Now that trucks have 60k plus warranties and service plans... you're not supposed to touch them, they're "sealed."
Odd how that is.
Also, I'd like to really know what "severe conditions" are, really.
philsey
New member
Ah, some objective information. What a refreshing idea...
eddiebx
New member
Blackstone UOA? Psssssh, I do it by color and taste.
With the kind of miles you drive [MENTION=80534]vicpick58[/MENTION] glad to see you're giving the 10k OCI a try at least! Hopefully the results come back favorable enough to easy your mind. Thanks for spending the time and money to do this and posting the results!
With the kind of miles you drive [MENTION=80534]vicpick58[/MENTION] glad to see you're giving the 10k OCI a try at least! Hopefully the results come back favorable enough to easy your mind. Thanks for spending the time and money to do this and posting the results!
diverscale
Member
If anyone has time to search, and memory serves me well, there are already 10k oil analysed for the 5th gen 4runner on this forum (maintenance forum I think) and bobistheoilguy forums. Tests were positive.
adam2562
New member
Every 5k for me.. i actually want my vehicle to last 300k+ and yes there are those who will say you can go to 20k no problem on synthetic.. but that's just not for me.. i'm also the guy who changes his auto trans fluid in his Avalon every 10-15k because its 17yrs old and the trans is the weak point on those older 1mzfe engines
Elk Hunter 2
Member
Hey, Toyota recommends every 10,000 miles, so that's what i'm doing...and if there is any problems they'll have to fix it.
Speedy Gomez
Banned
Same here. :ranger:
vicpick58
New member
Are you saying that the 2014 has gone back to the 5k mile interval?
1000MPH
Senior Member
Nope. Only for "Special Operating Conditions"
http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/omms/T-MMS-144Runner/pdf/2014_Toyota_4Runner_WMG_lr.pdf
1000MPH
Senior Member
The 2010 manual was revised 1/2010 to reflect the 10k OCI. I have the original manual with the 5k and the current (2010) manual is available on the Toyota website. Here...
http://www.toyota.com/t3Portal/document/omms/T-MMS-104Runner/pdf/2010_4Runner_WMG_0W20_lr.pdf
Make sure you are looking at the V6 not the I4 motor.
Somewhere either here or BITOG there is a letter informing dealers of the move to the 0w-20 synth and 10k OCI.
Edit: here's an example of the form letter...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ql0NNY6Ck2mcbjUhcEkPw1w&bvm=bv.61535280,d.cGU
I've posted many times that I'm not happy with the way Toyota handled the change in OCI, however, I have posted an 8k UOA that was quite positive.
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FYI, I bought my 2010 TE back in March 2010 with original owner's Servic manual that specified 5000 miles OCI. A few months later (July?) I received a letter plus a REVISED service manual from Toyota that the research showed that the OCI can now be safely extended to 10000 miles .
BrickSwindle
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While I'm not saying I'm smarter than the Toyota engineers that designed this vehicle, I am saying that I just got out of a new (2011) vehicle that was also designed by engineers that had an engine that consumed an incredible amount of oil, had a miscalibrated oil monitoring system, and a faulty oil level gauge. I am saying that a brand new vehicle running on full synthetic oil, designed by engineers (albeit, GM), with regular oil changes at 7-8K ate itself to pieces in approximately 30 months.
My first oil change was at 5K, my next will probably be at 5K, and then I'll work up to the recommended 10K. So, maybe I'm just a little scorned by automotive engineers right now haha.
(PS- I say all of this as an engineer :bigok
-Eric
My first oil change was at 5K, my next will probably be at 5K, and then I'll work up to the recommended 10K. So, maybe I'm just a little scorned by automotive engineers right now haha.
(PS- I say all of this as an engineer :bigok
-Eric
For the last 30 years I have been following the Change-Oil-When-It-Needs-It schedule. Meaning that if the oil is looking bad at 2000 miles since the last change, it gets changed. The old 3,000-mile oil change is a conservative approach to maintaining a vehicle that's not necessarily true for modern vehicles. I notice the oil needs changing quicker If I do a lot of towing etc. YMMV.
Titanpat57
Senior Member
My truck is my lifeline to my generation of funds and fun...
I don't want to lose either...so for $160 bucks a year(2 changes) it's a bargain
I don't want to lose either...so for $160 bucks a year(2 changes) it's a bargain
Antman
Elite Member
...don't forget the Opera too.:behindsofa:
