Who is Selling this Modified Trail in Dallas for $50,000?

Hey its my twin but a trail!

Yea $50k, not going to happen.

You never know....

What is funny is about 6 or 8 months months ago, I got a slough of PM's from a gentleman offering to buy my truck, he wasn't a regular forum member, just an enthusiast looking through the build threads on the forums and happened to live close to me. Straight out of the blue and serious as a heart attack. I'll just say that how much he was offering was right around the $50K that this guy is asking for his rig. I told him I appreciated the offer but I wouldn't sell for a dollar less than 100K HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :girl:

True story.
 
I mean on the market right now, I don't think anyone would, but of course there are those certain people that would buy it for that much.

I have a similar story, there's this manager at my Toyota Dealership that always asks me if I would sell my 4runner. His offer is a stock SR5 & a FRS for a daily lol. I've thought about taking it, but I'll never sell mine, we've been through so much! :hug:
 
Don't judge! - :nod:

What was judgemental about my statement?
I really don't understand why someone would take the time to customize a rig to turn around and sell it. Unless it's a custom shop.

I have spent countless hours, reading up and fine picking products, it would be such a waste to sell it after that, unless I was doubling my money.

Like my Dad taught me a long time ago... something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay.

I totally agree with that statement.
A good example of that is LE wheels, I have seen them sell anywhere from $500 to $1200. If you take your time as a buyer or a seller, you will get what you want for the sale price you want.

I don't understand people getting upset over someone selling an item at a high price, if you dont like it, don't buy it :) I am %110 sure that person isn't aiming to offend anyone lol.

I see it happen on craigslist all the time, people getting offended because of a low offer or someone posting a listing at a high offer. IT'S JUST BUSINESS!!

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What was judgemental about my statement?
I really don't understand why someone would take the time to customize a rig to turn around and sell it. Unless it's a custom shop.

I have spent countless hours, reading up and fine picking products, it would be such a waste to sell it after that, unless I was doubling my money.



I totally agree with that statement.
A good example of that is LE wheels, I have seen them sell anywhere from $500 to $1200. If you take your time as a buyer or a seller, you will get what you want for the sale price you want.

I don't understand people getting upset over someone selling an item at a high price, if you dont like it, don't buy it :) I am %110 sure that person isn't aiming to offend anyone lol.

I see it happen on craigslist all the time, people getting offended because of a low offer or someone posting a listing at a high offer. IT'S JUST BUSINESS!!

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Ya the current market may make it a bit more difficult for him to sell, but people have wasted much more money on much more foolish things!

The best thing about a somewhat "free market economy" is that the economy will decide how much that is worth. If there is a buyer then so be it, if no one is interested and he wants to sell, he will have to lower the price until someone is interested. Price elasticity of demand - the measure of how the demand is effected by the change of price.... wow.... grad school is coming back to me.... scary. HAHA
 
Toyota Care

I guess he/she didn't realize ToyotaCare doesn't transfer to the next owner or at least that is what I was told when I sold my '11 SR5 privately to upgrade to the '12 TE.

Owner probably doesn't have the OEM bumpers any longer-

But the owner could recover some decent cash with the T4R part out. I've seen one of those pictures from the listing on here.
 
People are crazy when they think they will get dollar-for-dollar for all their mods. Guy would be much better off taking all that stuff off and selling it on here, then selling the stock truck.

QFT!
It blows my mind when people bring a modded car to a dealership, and are upset when they are offered either on or below market value.
They don't realize that mods reduce the trade in value.
 
Ya the current market may make it a bit more difficult for him to sell, but people have wasted much more money on much more foolish things!

The best thing about a somewhat "free market economy" is that the economy will decide how much that is worth. If there is a buyer then so be it, if no one is interested and he wants to sell, he will have to lower the price until someone is interested. Price elasticity of demand - the measure of how the demand is effected by the change of price.... wow.... grad school is coming back to me.... scary. HAHA

Well said..

Now I know what you mean when you say you want to focus on getting back into what you went to school for. :thumb:
 
QFT!
It blows my mind when people bring a modded car to a dealership, and are upset when they are offered either on or below market value.
They don't realize that mods reduce the trade in value.

Key word there is dealership.... They're a rip off even if you have a completely cherry clean, bone stock, never in an accident, un-modded, super clean vehicle.... I feel like people like to use some creative psychology there when they go to buy a used car from someone who has modded it and use it as a bargaining chip to get some more money off. "Well.... I dunno.... you have turned a few nuts and bolts on it and ran some wires... and I don't know how well it was done or how the vehicle has been treated so I would like to offer you even less money" when in reality, the buyer probably would love to have those mods. Bottom line.... if you want a modded vehicle but don't wanna save the time and money by buying one that someone else did, then by all means spend the time and money yourself.

Not sayin its a good or bad situation, it just is. Not sayin we should all jump into the bidness of modding rigs and trying to sell them for a profit because we all know that wouldn't work out. All I'm saying, is every so often, with the right advertising, in the right economy, with the right witches brew and virgin sacrifice, people have been known to get top dollar for these modded vehicles, myself being one such fellow.

Cheers all.... It has been a long day. Time for a frosty brew after work!
 
Key word there is dealership.... They're a rip off even if you have a completely cherry clean, bone stock, never in an accident, un-modded, super clean vehicle.... I feel like people like to use some creative psychology there when they go to buy a used car from someone who has modded it and use it as a bargaining chip to get some more money off. "Well.... I dunno.... you have turned a few nuts and bolts on it and ran some wires... and I don't know how well it was done or how the vehicle has been treated so I would like to offer you even less money" when in reality, the buyer probably would love to have those mods. Bottom line.... if you want a modded vehicle but don't wanna save the time and money by buying one that someone else did, then by all means spend the time and money yourself.

Not sayin its a good or bad situation, it just is. Not sayin we should all jump into the bidness of modding rigs and trying to sell them for a profit because we all know that wouldn't work out. All I'm saying, is every so often, with the right advertising, in the right economy, with the right witches brew and virgin sacrifice, people have been known to get top dollar for these modded vehicles, myself being one such fellow.

Cheers all.... It has been a long day. Time for a frosty brew after work!

Exactly this. There's a market for every used vehicle out there, you just need to direct your sales to the proper audience. Obviously dealerships are the worst place to go when trying to sell a well modified vehicle, they are all about turning a profit quickly. Modded vehicles are less marketable to the general masses so naturally they'll offer you less since it's probably going to take longer to sell.

However, IMO, these "rip off" dealership trade-ins still have a purpose. People with not so well maintained cars would likely get a decent deal, when you look at the overall picture. A dealership might give you a so so price on the trade-in value but you've also wasted much less time and energy off loading the car. Imagine trying to make a deal with a real anal private buyer, who's going to nit pick every single flaw. Time is money, lol.

Anyway, like some of you have said, I don't feel like the seller is smoking crack for listing it at that price. He seems to have a lot of high dollar goodies in it so I'm sure if he's got some time and patience he can sell it around that price. Just got to wait for the right buyer to come along...
 
Here's the deal though, there's both truth and fallacy to the modified vehicle statement.

Many people would buy a vehicle modified by a shop and pay over MSRP BECAUSE of the mods. i.e. Dynan BMWs and shops that build tuner cars and off-road vehicles.

The real question here is more at what point do mods become a liability and/or an indicator of abuse as was pointed out earlier?

I am pretty sure if this vehicle had a well known shop or TRD slapped on the mods people would fork $50k for it in a heartbeart! Look at ICON, they're essentially charging 100k for a "modded" FJ Cruiser frame, should they expect to only sell their vehicles at what an FJ Cruiser frame is worth? What about contractor vehicles, moving vans, work trucks? Those are all "modified" vehicles that sell for often above their MSRP with mods that often affect warranty. Even with 9k on the Odometer the owner would have had to seriously abuse the vehicle to cause any damage and the modifications look to be fairly well done.

The reality is the vehicle is probably worth 50k, but apparently the moment an owner vs. a shop/dealer sells the vehicle it is assumed to be devalued? By most people's logic your saying I buy a '13 Trail Edition, slap a winch on it day one and 1 mile later the Winch doesn't even count as part of the total value, yet I gaurentee you that you wreck your truck and you'll pull the Insurance Companies teeth to get that winch counted. I've always found this grey area to be a source of amusement.
 
Personally I hope he gets close to what hes asking. That means some of you might recoup a small amount of loss on all your mods should you ever decide to sell. I also agree that in general modding adds little value to the vehicle. A little while ago there was an awesome 200 series LC right by my house at a dealership and it was completely modded out: OME lift, roof rack, front and rear(with swing out) ARB's, slides and a dual battery setup, lights etc. Priced at 39K (LOL I wonder what the dealer gave him for it...:doh:). and it had 70k miles on it. There was another unmodified one in about the same condition with more miles and it was $45k. The fact is that its just much harder to sell these types of vehicles because most people don't want or need any of the additions. Therefore they add little value. Personally, if I'm buying a used 4R I want the PO to be someone who used it to get their kids from soccer practice.
.......That being said, I still dream about that cruiser from time to time....
 
A little while ago there was an awesome 200 series LC right by my house at a dealership and it was completely modded out: OME lift, roof rack, front and rear(with swing out) ARB's, slides and a dual battery setup, lights etc.
I think I saw whoever bought that in Ridgeway a few weeks ago. Fully decked out 200 series (only modified 200 series I have ever seen) with CO plates, and was waving and pointing as we passed each other.
 
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Heh, we can get those Scepter cans at lots of places up here. Unfortunately none of the shops that carry them will ship them outside of Canada.

DS Tactical
Hey, ol buddy ol pal.
If you bring a couple of those down to Moab with you, I'll act as your personal guide, reimburse the cost, and the cans' volume of fuel.

And may I say, F@@K be upon the California AiR Board. I hope they all catch fire and die by their stupid gas can regulations.
 
Pardon my ignorance, but why are those cans sought after? I think I remember reading that the U.S.A. changed reg's, makes sense with [MENTION=78273]Jeremy556[/MENTION] 's comments, but what about the reg makes the cans available to us sub-par?
 

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