A winch is high on my mod list. The thing is that we were just messing around and I thought I was further to the left than I actually was and splash. I usually go with other people, this was one of the few times I have gone without another truck. Now one of my buddies got an ARB with a Warren 8500. I don't know if that would have helped or not though. The tow truck had a hard time. I bent he hell out of the stock tow hook. I hit a dirt/mud wall it was so deep. Thats why I didnt make it out. It took all my momentum when I hit the "wall". The problem is that there are no good trails in savannah. I am mostly into trailriding now, but there isn't much to choose from in GA. One of my buddies with a wrangler just met some Jeep group so maybe I could tag allong with them some time to find the trails/go with them. I just need to get some real skid plates and I'll show them what a 4runner can do. But, I wouldn't be to eager to tackle the hard stuff w/o any protection down there.