x-reas lifespan?
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I was actually refering to how long x-reas is capable of functionally normally until it "dies".
afx604
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Uneek said:
thx uneek! The reason I ask is because I'm considering ripping out the x-reas system and putting in a OME one like many others on the board have done. Originally I wanted spacers but it seems like everyone with cornfed/daystar/revtek eventually want to go to a full suspension set up...I just feel bad throwing out a full functional system. I currently only have 50,000km (metric system) so that should equate to roughly 25,000 miles...
afx604
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i may just wind up doing what most people did and just go with a 3/2 cornfed setup w/ 285 Cooper STT's and aftermarket 17's for now...I know a lot of people on the board use wheel spacers with stock rims..but if i get aftermarket rims, what offset should i be looking at to prevent rubbing of the UCA and CV boot is it?? Most people just list the rim size and width from my search..so I should be looking at a negative offset (i.e. -12mm)???
Hayn4R
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yeah I am in that same boat as well. i cant wait to lift my 4R especially because there are no lifted 4th gen on Oahu yet (worth taking my note anyway). however, i just cant give up a fully functioning XREAS system. My general rule is that once something NEEDS to be replaced then I can upgrade (headlights, wipers, lift, tires). but at this rate, I think my XREAS has a loooonnngggg time to go. I only have 21k miles on it.
one quick clarification...so the only benefit of XREAS is most likely when I am taking corners at higher speeds....is this the jist of it?
if that's the case, i dont feel that bad ripping the XREAS out to fit some 36 inch tires with a 10 inch lift.
I believe my warranty runs out next year, and I just got a better job, so maybe just maybe, next year will be the year I taste a higher altitude =)
Until then, keep on rid'n
one quick clarification...so the only benefit of XREAS is most likely when I am taking corners at higher speeds....is this the jist of it?
if that's the case, i dont feel that bad ripping the XREAS out to fit some 36 inch tires with a 10 inch lift.
I believe my warranty runs out next year, and I just got a better job, so maybe just maybe, next year will be the year I taste a higher altitude =)
Until then, keep on rid'n
afx604
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Hayn4R said:
You might want to do some research on toyota120 forum. There are some heavy offroaders there and a 10 inch lift on the 4runner may cost you $$$$$$ with a lot of customization as the most I've heard of was a a 3" lift with a 1.5 body lift on top of that. Look into AlexJet's runner, I bow down to his piece of work. :bowdown:
Hayn4R
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i appreciate everyones honesty.
I too came to that same epiphany after I bought my 4R and discovered that all there is a girly 3" lift. I was depressed for a good......actually still kind of depressed about that.
How come they make a 5 or 6" lift for the FJ then. That lift looks good.
Recently, I have been entertaining the thought of a trade in, either a Taco or Tundra because of this vertically challenged vehicle. However, I feel kind of bad because we spent the last three years together.....ah great times.
I also know that the ride in my 4R is way superior to a Taco, not sure about the Tundra's ride but guessing similar to the Taco.
I only have 21k miles on a 2005 so my trade in would still be decent.......I need to make some tough decisions soon.
Let me ask you guys then, what is the biggest lift for a Taco and Tundra that is currently avail?
Decisions, decisions
I too came to that same epiphany after I bought my 4R and discovered that all there is a girly 3" lift. I was depressed for a good......actually still kind of depressed about that.
How come they make a 5 or 6" lift for the FJ then. That lift looks good.
Recently, I have been entertaining the thought of a trade in, either a Taco or Tundra because of this vertically challenged vehicle. However, I feel kind of bad because we spent the last three years together.....ah great times.
I also know that the ride in my 4R is way superior to a Taco, not sure about the Tundra's ride but guessing similar to the Taco.
I only have 21k miles on a 2005 so my trade in would still be decent.......I need to make some tough decisions soon.
Let me ask you guys then, what is the biggest lift for a Taco and Tundra that is currently avail?
Decisions, decisions
boston_kevin
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I think you should consider what you got the vehicle for in the first place. 4Runners are plenty capable off-road, even with a mild lift, you just have to pick and choose your routes a little more carefully. If you decide you want more lift, then the question becomes what are you willing to trade off? On-road handling/safety, gas mileage, creature comforts, cargo space, etc. Going higher means you will sacrifice some on-road manners for off-road prowess, it also can mean some sacrifice in reliability as parts pushed beyond their limits often break at the most inopportune moments.
If you want to have a great off-road vehicle, consider an older FJ or a Jeep Wrangler. Parts to lift these are plentiful and cheap and you don't sacrifice your daily driver's reliability.
Trades for SUV's are not doing well these days... I picked up an '08 Suburban LTZ fully loaded with 12k miles for $35k including a 100k bumper to bumper warranty as a replacement for my wife's aging Yukon with 175k miles on it.
If you want to have a great off-road vehicle, consider an older FJ or a Jeep Wrangler. Parts to lift these are plentiful and cheap and you don't sacrifice your daily driver's reliability.
Trades for SUV's are not doing well these days... I picked up an '08 Suburban LTZ fully loaded with 12k miles for $35k including a 100k bumper to bumper warranty as a replacement for my wife's aging Yukon with 175k miles on it.
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Thai
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Hayn4R said:
Why would you need a 5-10" lift?? For looks?? For off-road capability?? For off-road competition?? Personally, i would spend my money on something else (locker, sliders, etc.).
If you really want to do a lift that high, then get a vehicle with solid axles front and rear...it will be a lot cheaper to lift these vehicles AND probably more durable. Independent suspension causes lots of headaches and compromises in lifting.
Hayn4R
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thanks everyone for your thoughts and concerns...i really appreciate them all.
I have decided to keep my 4R and make the best of this situation.
The reason why I want such a big lift is to increase ground clearance so I can tackle more trails and secondly to add some bulk to the look of the 4R. I dont enter competitions and I dont go rock climbing...mostly sand, dirt, & minimal mud. I try to keep her as clean and scratch free as possible.
I still dont understand why they make a 5"-6" lift for FJ cruisers, but not one for 4R's. Correct me if I am wrong, but dont both vehicles share the same chassis and guts?
I have decided to keep my 4R and make the best of this situation.
The reason why I want such a big lift is to increase ground clearance so I can tackle more trails and secondly to add some bulk to the look of the 4R. I dont enter competitions and I dont go rock climbing...mostly sand, dirt, & minimal mud. I try to keep her as clean and scratch free as possible.
I still dont understand why they make a 5"-6" lift for FJ cruisers, but not one for 4R's. Correct me if I am wrong, but dont both vehicles share the same chassis and guts?
boston_kevin
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Hayn4R said:
Different chassis, same drivetrain and power. The biggest difference is how Toyota marketed the FJ specifically for off-roading and a generally younger crowd (no families, more fun focus). They also did some assessments of the target audience and figured out that most people don't use those vehicles stock, they mod them, so they put out the design and prototypes of the vehicle up to 1 year prior to the release date to aftermarket companies to come up with these lifts and "bling" FJ was specifically targeted at the Jeep Wrangler crowd and it has taken a dent in that group.
