2013 4Runner

Nope flat as a fart no hills either way, I play a game with my car on the way to work, I try not to let that bar type thing on my Odometer to go all the way to the right , I set my cruise for 65 MPH and slowly make my way up to that speed.

Ah-Ha! The old....cruise control, set at 65 mph, in combination with the econometer "bar-type-thing", to keep an eye-on....trick!

"I should've guessed it" :nono:
 
Since the vehicle is going to be for your wife, here's what my wife tells me about my 2010 LE (she's 5'4"):

The "negatives":
  • A pain to get into when wearing heels. (I have Shrokworks rock-rails on mine)
  • Gets the back of her pants dirty when she slides out.
  • Passenger side has no lumbar support.
  • Parking brake/emergency brake is worthless.
  • House-on-wheels sized.

The "positive":
  • Drives like a Cadillac; nice and smooth.
  • Goes anywhere she'll ever want to go. (and some places she didn't want to be *LOL* i.e. alongside a steep drop off in CO.)

Okki
 
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Limited is nice but also a rip off. Most of the 4Runner's come without step bars, mud flaps, gate assist button. It has a old style antenna no HD lights. Your choice if you want a car like that for her. Go with lexus for that kind of money.
 
All right guys, point well taken on the comparison between the Stang and 4R. The point I was trying to make there is if someone is use to driving a peppy vehicle the lower power of the 4R is very noticeable. To be honest I can draw the same conclusion between my 4.7L tundra and the 4R about lack of power. As some have pointed out that it may just take time to get familiar with this truck but I still think a V8 would be a better motor for the 4R. Funny thing is both the Stang and Tundra get better gas mileage than the 4R likely due to the fact that the 3.0L has to be pushed harder. I know some of you guys like to bust people’s nuts on this site but the point I was trying to make is the 4R could use more power and I stand by it.
Regards,
Joel
 
The sluggish power depends on what you are used to driving. If you are used to diving slow cars you will think it it fine. If you came from cars with a lot of low speed power the 4runner will feel like a dog. Most people do not like to have to keep the gas pedal floored to take off at a reasonable rate. The 4runner has to be almost floored most of the time to get good acceleration and it is noisy and not smooth. It will downshift a lot and needs to be ran at high rpms to keep up with traffic in the mountains. This is not the way it should be. It should have an engine set up for low rpm torque. If you floor it from a dead stop it is sluggish to around 3000 rpm and then it takes off pretty good but it is kind of dead up to that point.
 
All right guys, point well taken on the comparison between the Stang and 4R. The point I was trying to make there is if someone is use to driving a peppy vehicle the lower power of the 4R is very noticeable. To be honest I can draw the same conclusion between my 4.7L tundra and the 4R about lack of power. As some have pointed out that it may just take time to get familiar with this truck but I still think a V8 would be a better motor for the 4R. Funny thing is both the Stang and Tundra get better gas mileage than the 4R likely due to the fact that the 3.0L has to be pushed harder. I know some of you guys like to bust people’s nuts on this site but the point I was trying to make is the 4R could use more power and I stand by it.
Regards,
Joel

Anything and everything could use "more power." Just ask Tim the Toolman. Your Mustang could use more too unless it is a 2012 GT500. Two words: T E S T D R I V E. If you think it's too slow then it is, for you. Promptly cross it off your list and move on to another vehicle. If you bought it thinking it would change then thats all you, but nobody wants to hear they made a mistake.
 
Limited is nice but also a rip off. Most of the 4Runner's come without step bars, mud flaps, gate assist button. It has a old style antenna no HD lights. Your choice if you want a car like that for her. Go with lexus for that kind of money.

Assuming you're talking an RX. Priced one of those out lately? My wife's, with nav, those HD lights you're fond of, etc. is much closer to fifty than 40. And my Limited was a good twelve grand less.
 
Anything and everything could use "more power."

I was thinking the same thing. Come to think of it... I can't recall a single car or motorcycle where I said, woah this thing has plenty of power - I'll just leave it alone. When you purchase a vehicle, you are buying it for what it is. If you want to change it - open your wallet and have fun.
 
Assuming you're talking an RX. Priced one of those out lately? My wife's, with nav, those HD lights you're fond of, etc. is much closer to fifty than 40. And my Limited was a good twelve grand less.

You got that right. I rode in my nephew's RX, very nice, and thought I'd replace my wife's CRV with one. Then I priced one out - yikes! Glad she likes her CRV.
 
2)The brakes work well but they are very mushy. I’m 51 years old and don’t think I’ve every driven a car with stranger feeling brakes.

+1 other than replacing them has anyone found a fix for this? I mean my wifes camry, my avalon and my old Ford all have better brake feel than the 4R. Is there a reason they feel like they "kick in" later than the other cars I own?
 
I know some of you guys like to bust people’s nuts on this site but the point I was trying to make is the 4R could use more power and I stand by it.
Regards,
Joel

Lots of other people on this site share the same opinion about the 5th Gen's severe lack of power. No shortage of V6 vs V8 heated argument threads. Fun reads if you have time. No doubt that the 5th gen is a gorgeous SUV (besides the tail lights). If I had the $ I would definitely consider one.
 
Lots of other people on this site share the same opinion about the 5th Gen's severe lack of power. No shortage of V6 vs V8 heated argument threads. Fun reads if you have time. No doubt that the 5th gen is a gorgeous SUV (besides the tail lights). If I had the $ I would definitely consider one.

I miss my old 2008 V8...definitely devoted some brain cells to the thought of a conversion recently.
 
i got 24.6 going from dc metro area to ocean city.. about a 150mile trip

Most of my driving is done around town, so I'll ...NEVER...realize numbers like that; consider myself lucky to get 12mpg avg.

I know that I'm a more "assertive" driver, and I enjoy the way my limited feels when I press on the accelerator; whenever there's not some STUPID IDIOT in front of me, "texting", "chatting", "blogging", or displaying some other god aweful, anti-social behavior!!!

But I know that there's "no free lunch"....EVER!. So I choose to sacrifice better gas mileage, to get better performance from my truck; you won't get both, there's always a compromise to be decided upon, and I've chosen great performance.

Greg (rigtec)
 
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yea my normal range is 17.9-19.5.. that trip i was proving to a friend that i could get that.. so it was in my head the whole way there.. like one other guy said.. using that lil eco meter to help me stay off the gas
 
Off-topic. Philsey, where did you go fishing and did you have any luck?

Wondered if you'd catch that...

Camped near Yellow River SFP. Fished the trout streams there, + up around Wakon, Dorchester, Waterville, etc.

Caught lots of 10-12" rainbows/brooks/browns. My buddy caught a beautiful 17" brown. We've been going up there for 25 years.
 
Wondered if you'd catch that...

Camped near Yellow River SFP. Fished the trout streams there, + up around Wakon, Dorchester, Waterville, etc.

Caught lots of 10-12" rainbows/brooks/browns. My buddy caught a beautiful 17" brown. We've been going up there for 25 years.

Awesome! If you have been going there that long I am sure you know the area well but here is a link if it helps. The Trout Stream Map has some good information.

Trout Streams

Sorry for the thread-hijack.
 

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