5th Gen Oil Recommendation? New Owner!
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Hammer0313
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ElectroBoy
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You’re using Amsoil and dumping it after only 5,000 miles? And doing a $30 oil analysis each time? And using an Amsoil filter?
That’s quite an expense for “peace of mind”.
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mc813
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2016 4Runner SR5
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Peace of mind is priceless. I run synthetic with OE or quality aftermarket filters and dump every 5K as well. I will never go 10K as they claim we should.
Lexington
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I always wonder why dealers and oil change places recommended changing the oil on the 4Runner every 5~6,000 miles instead of 10,000. I always thought is was so the could make more money. But this guy give a great explanation on why you should change it early instead of waiting the full 10,000 mile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4JS7PybV2k&feature=youtu.be
ElectroBoy
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I do the same. But 5K oil changes using Amsoil products doesn’t make economic sense. Amsoil makes good products but is very expensive. Their big selling point is their oil can last 25,000 miles if you use their oil filter. Then the expense is on par with other major brands with shorter drain intervals.
2021nightshade4x4
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Doesn’t Toyota use Mobil 1?
So confused right now because I’ve used Mobil 1 for my 3 domestics and they’re all at 250k+ miles at this time, but using it in the Range Rover consistently produced more valvetrain noise at startup, using the same weight, so I switched back to the recommended Castrol Professional shortly thereafter. Resolved that.
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So confused right now because I’ve used Mobil 1 for my 3 domestics and they’re all at 250k+ miles at this time, but using it in the Range Rover consistently produced more valvetrain noise at startup, using the same weight, so I switched back to the recommended Castrol Professional shortly thereafter. Resolved that.
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DougR
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There are other conditions ...
Signature series may be used to 25,000 miles if normal Service, 700 hours of operation or one year, whichever comes first, in personal vehicles not operating under severe service. Severe Service – Up to 15,000 miles, 700 hours of operation or one year, whichever comes first. Severe service conditions include commercial or fleet vehicles; excessive idling; or frequent towing, hauling, snow plowing or driving in dusty conditions. AMSOIL Oil Change Interval – AMSOIL Blog
RedZnRunner
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Have used mostly 5W-30 Royal Purple in my Nissans. However reading this forum has made me want to go to Toyota brand 0W-20 synthetic changed at 8K km intervals. Toyota adds some additional additives to their oil that changes the content slightly from Mobil 1 EP. Am I wrong or is it just marketing ? Worth note our Runners have the severe side of the service. Winters here range from below 30 F to below -16 F in places like Thunder Bay and Northern Ontario. to above 90 F in summer
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ElectroBoy
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You can open up a firehouse of info and opinions when asking about motor oil. I haven’t seen any official confirmation but the popular consensus is that Mobil makes Toyota oil to Toyota’s specs. People have done virgin oil analysis on each and there are differences, one being the Toyota oil has a lot more molybdenum.
1000MPH
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I ended up going to a shorter interval with the more available Mobil 1. I’m using the EP (Extension Protection) because it’s about the same price as the AFE when on sale. The shorter interval is because most of my usage is short trips, I only did 6k miles last year. If I end up doing 1000-1200/mo again I’ll adjust my interval accordingly. I also switched to a 5W/30 because it makes me feel better.
MidniteTRD
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i mean, Toyota makes it really clear in their manual just how many use cases kick you down to a 5,000 mile oil change interval, and i think they're overlooked constantly. its pretty clear that unless you're running mostly highway miles unloaded you shouldn't shoot for 10k. towing, running a roof-mounted cargo carrier, heavy loads, extensive idling (how many of us sit in traffic twice a day), repeated sub 5-mile trips in below-freezing weather.....all put you on a 5,000 mile or 6 month interval.
all that stuff is taken directly from the Warranty & Maintenance Guide chart on page 38.
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2016 4Runner SR5
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Toyota branded oil has significant additives over M1 oil. To be honest, after reading more oil data sheets than I care to remember, M1 really doesn't impress me. I personally no longer run it or believe it's anything special anymore.
2016 4Runner SR5
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There is a supply issue with all weights and brands. We use 5-40 and 15-40 at work every day and it's been tough getting it. It's apparently a shortage of one of the chemicals used to make synthetic oils that is causing the shortage and most companies use the same chemical so it's across the board.
the toyota oil has a lot of metal protections
2016 4Runner SR5
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I agree completely. It's far superior to M1 as most oils actually are. M1 is nothing special at all IMO Believe it or not, Amazon branded oil and Walmart SuperTech oil both have superior additive packages to M1 oil.
ElectroBoy
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So many people have done VOA of Toyota 0W-20. That’s probably why the average column values look that way. Most other brand’s moly number is way below Toyota’s.
DEF4Runner
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I just use EVOO and all is well. 
