5th gens sales keep climbing

[Koddo]

Nope.

But you sure damn take it personal. I didn't slap your baby in the face. It's just dimensions, and dimensions don't lie. I would say 80% of dirt roads (mine roads, old forest roads, etc) arn't maintained for a full size vehicles. And what are 99% of dirt roads in the western states? Old mine and forest roads. Hastily graded through the landscape 80-130 years ago. Moab and all those roads are old uranium roads.

But keep on trying to stick that square peg in a round hole and trying to find very specific circumstances where they could go.

 

[sn_85]

Nope.

But you sure damn take it personal. I didn't slap your baby in the face. It's just dimensions, and dimensions don't lie. I would say 80% of dirt roads (mine roads, old forest roads, etc) arn't maintained for a full size vehicles. And what are 99% of dirt roads in the western states? Old mine and forest roads. Hastily graded through the landscape 80-130 years ago. Moab and all those roads are old uranium roads.

But keep on trying to stick that square peg in a round hole and trying to find very specific circumstances where they could go.

I don't take what you say personal, I'm just trying to show you how foolish your argument is. But if you want to continue looking foolish and ignorant than I won't stop you anymore. Actually you know what, the Jeeps you were describing aren't even off-road worthy or trail worthy. What you really need is an adventure motorcycle. That's the only vehicle that is off-road worthy because you know, it's all about dimensions...[sarcasm].



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[BlackWorksInc]

I would say the Armada is a Sequoia competitor if anything, does the Nissan Patrol utilize the same independent rear suspension set-up?

As for the Land Cruiser?

Have you seen some of the LC200 builds out there? They are very capable, rather bulky and large yes, but then people make crawlers out of K9 Blazers and Unimogs; so being small and nimble isn't exactly a requirement, but more of an ideal.

As for the owners... well for the majority of LC100 & LC200 owners, they probably will never off-road their vehicles or even look at a dirt road; they're not marketed or sold as a off-road vehicle here in the US. They're sold as a mall-crawling, dolla balla, bling mobile; where in the rest of the world you can get stripped down LC200's with cloth seats, 4WD, and a 5.7L engine or a 4.5L Twin Turbo Diesel V8.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

Even if these larger SUVs are trail worthyI almost never see them off road and in Colorado it's mostly Jeeps and older Toyotas (PU,LC and 4Runners) and a few Nissan mid size trucks and Xterras that I run into. Most of the mountain trails are pretty narrow and over lifted and long wheel base trucks don't cut it.

 

[adam2562]

i'd actually say advertising helped boost sales a lot! think about how much they advertised the 4th gens.. then 6th gens came out and boom advertising.. then a few yrs later they REALLY stepped it up

 

[Tons_of_phun_]

The Xterra is it's really only direct competitor but the Grand Cherokee is there but those have become a bit soft and I rarely see them off road much anymore. Trails around here are dominated by Jeeps and Toyotas especially older ones.

The Xterra is discontinued now. Not many rugged SUV's available these days.


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