96 4Runner Loose Steering Coupler

Milo902

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Hi,

I've been feverishly searching the interwebs as I know this topic has been discussed many times, but I'm coming up empty on my particular issue.

The vehicle - 96 4Runner, 150k Miles, new rack bushings & upgraded guides about 10k ago, original rack, ball joints & tie rods.

When I got the Runner, there was excessive wandering in the steering, plus a bit of play and a rattle over certain bumps. New bushings fixed the play. I put in rack guides to help with the rattle, but to get the rattle to go away I had to tighten the guides to the point the steering would not self center. Oh well, new rack in my future.

Fast forward to today, the rattle is still there, and the wander associated with the worn bushings is back. First thought was ball joints. I have a set in the garage but I want to do them w/ a full front rebuild (rack, TREs, bushings, UCAs, various gussets, jounce shocks, bling bling, etc.) and I'm still collecting parts.

I thought I would try the free.99 mod of tack welding the slip joint just in case. So I welded that up yesterday, no discernible movement in the slip joint, but there is some movement in the coupling for tilt mechanism when I put the shaft in a vise and turn the wheel a bit. I can't find any info on this joint other than a new steering shaft is $250+ (coupling not sold separately of course). The thing is, mine doesn't look worn, and I'm not sure a new one will have any less play.

Has anyone else experienced play in this joint? Anyone tried to replace it with a u-joint to tighten up any extra play? I think I need to just tear into the front and do the BJ's as PM with the knowledge I'll be back in 6-12 months for the rest of the front end toys. There is a used setup on ebay for $55 shipped, it may be worth it just for comparison and maybe to experiment w/ a u joint.





TL;DR: Pic below of the steering shaft (not mine, came from this thread Diagnose and Fix Steering Play/Rattle - TTORA Forum). The coupling that has play that I speak of is the cream colored plastic piece on the left. Any input on how to tighten this up would be great.

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Well I ended up ordering a used one of ebay for $55. I am curious to see if there is any difference in the amount of play.

Worst case I will have an extra to play around with, maybe I can splice in a U-joint to remove some slop.
 
I don't know of a way to tighten that joint up other than replacing it. I don't think you should have welded the joint though, that is the last resort fix when you have eliminated everything else as being the source of your play.

Don't weld the new one until you can verify that the slop is actually in the slip joint and not the other joint.
 
on the TTORA forums I also saw a write up to fix the play in that joint. It invloved cutting a an old oil container into plastic shims and installing them in that joint. hope you can find it.

Good luck
 
Interesting, I will search TTORA to check.

The slip joint that is in there doesn't seem to have any play at all, but I figured I would tack weld it while I have it out. Sometime in the next few months all the rest of the suspension/steering on the front end will be replaced, but I wanted to tackle some of the free/cheap mods in the meantime while I collected parts.
 

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