Aggressive Tires for my 4Runner?
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Koz
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The RR is the LT tire that are E rated.
I know and agree that the KOs are great off-road tires, but I would rate the KOs average on road. They have been around for many years and have a great reputation and are probably the most popular on/off-road tire to this day. The problem I had with them was in the rain and snow with a light rear wheel drive pick-up. They just don't compare to the REVOs in these conditions.
A snowflake symbol and 3 ply sidewalls don't make them better then the REVOs in these conditions. This is not just my personal opinion, 2500 other owners feel the same way. I've heard people say the LTXs were great tires also, in my experience they aren't as good as the KOs. Some tires do some things better then others: the KOs shine off-road, the LTXs shine on a dry highway and will last forever but the LT/P REVOs do almost everything better and more people that own them agree. The ratings for the KOs are from people who have owned them. I also agree with their ratings. There are also people that rate the KOs the same way Thai does, just as there are people that rate the REVOs poorly. But when you average out all the rating, you can get a pretty accurate idea of how well they would work for you intended purpose.
Look at the CR review and you will see that the opinion of the 2500 owners are very close to their rating. The bottom line is: If you
I know and agree that the KOs are great off-road tires, but I would rate the KOs average on road. They have been around for many years and have a great reputation and are probably the most popular on/off-road tire to this day. The problem I had with them was in the rain and snow with a light rear wheel drive pick-up. They just don't compare to the REVOs in these conditions.
A snowflake symbol and 3 ply sidewalls don't make them better then the REVOs in these conditions. This is not just my personal opinion, 2500 other owners feel the same way. I've heard people say the LTXs were great tires also, in my experience they aren't as good as the KOs. Some tires do some things better then others: the KOs shine off-road, the LTXs shine on a dry highway and will last forever but the LT/P REVOs do almost everything better and more people that own them agree. The ratings for the KOs are from people who have owned them. I also agree with their ratings. There are also people that rate the KOs the same way Thai does, just as there are people that rate the REVOs poorly. But when you average out all the rating, you can get a pretty accurate idea of how well they would work for you intended purpose.
Look at the CR review and you will see that the opinion of the 2500 owners are very close to their rating. The bottom line is: If you
RonMAIDEN
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I still love my Nittos even when BFGs are better proven off road and I wouldn't hesitate to put a set on my truck if it was just used for off roading and the roads to get there but with me seeing pavement 7 days a week with a few weekends of intermediate off roading the Nittos are a better choice IMO since I still wanted agressive looks but nice on road manners and they don't kill the wallet.
BFGs are an awesome off road tire but you give up a lot of on-road security and performance with them with their wet weather shortcomings and that's due to their design never really being updated in 15 years or so.
I see BFGs everyday and most are on vehicles that will NEVER go off road and IMO that people just buying them because of their popularity and never doing any real research about them. I guess soem people just love to blow money.
BFGs are an awesome off road tire but you give up a lot of on-road security and performance with them with their wet weather shortcomings and that's due to their design never really being updated in 15 years or so.
I see BFGs everyday and most are on vehicles that will NEVER go off road and IMO that people just buying them because of their popularity and never doing any real research about them. I guess soem people just love to blow money.
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neliconcept
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yeah I agree with you on that Ron.
Im sorta in the same boat but not really. I have test driven a 4runner with bfg a/t and damn my goodyear mtrs behave better on the roard then the AT KOs.
I do see more offroading now as Im about to armor up and lock the rear with a lockright. so gonna put these tires plus lift plus front arb bumper plus sliders plus locker to use lmao
i really do love my 4runner more then my gf which is almost sad lmao
Im sorta in the same boat but not really. I have test driven a 4runner with bfg a/t and damn my goodyear mtrs behave better on the roard then the AT KOs.
I do see more offroading now as Im about to armor up and lock the rear with a lockright. so gonna put these tires plus lift plus front arb bumper plus sliders plus locker to use lmao
i really do love my 4runner more then my gf which is almost sad lmao
Thai
Elite Member
RonMAIDEN said:
Well, the same can be said about any other tire, right?? Usually, money talks. So, even if they are popular, a cheaper tire usually holds the advantage for most people. This is how Nittos, Toyos, Coopers, get onto the market...by pricing themselves lower than the popular brands.
BFG AT KO is popular because they are well-made and proven to be tough-as-nails. You guys may be right...in terms of dry handling or wet handling, there are better tires. Each customer has a different need. The reason i have stated my opinion (backed up with facts) is that a few members are saying how REVOs or Nittos are just better tires in general than BFG AT KO. I wish that it was the case because i would not have spent so much money going thru all the different tires before settling on BFG AT KO.
Each tire has it's strengths and weaknesses. Not one tire is perfect.
My first and last Thread!
Wow, you guys really know how to take a thread and throw-up all over it!
I started this tread looking for some advice on a couple of tires I was looking at to replace my stock Dunlops, and some of you guys just hyjacked the thread to blab on and on about your current tire!
All of this really just ended up reading like a bunch of guys who want to make themselves feel better about their personal purchasing decision.
Some of you were helpful (thank you!), but the rest of you need to take a break (especially the guy who says he loves his truck almost more than his "girlfriend".....she must be a real looker!).
Wow, you guys really know how to take a thread and throw-up all over it!
I started this tread looking for some advice on a couple of tires I was looking at to replace my stock Dunlops, and some of you guys just hyjacked the thread to blab on and on about your current tire!
All of this really just ended up reading like a bunch of guys who want to make themselves feel better about their personal purchasing decision.
Some of you were helpful (thank you!), but the rest of you need to take a break (especially the guy who says he loves his truck almost more than his "girlfriend".....she must be a real looker!).
Re: My first and last Thread!
Hey come on now girl friends are for the time being, 4RUNNER's are forever. At least dumping money into the 4runner is not to bad, it will be in the driveway, as for the girl friend she could be gone tommorrow.
Hubbard said:Wow, you guys really know how to take a thread and throw-up all over it!
I started this tread looking for some advice on a couple of tires I was looking at to replace my stock Dunlops, and some of you guys just hyjacked the thread to blab on and on about your current tire!
All of this really just ended up reading like a bunch of guys who want to make themselves feel better about their personal purchasing decision.
Some of you were helpful (thank you!), but the rest of you need to take a break (especially the guy who says he loves his truck almost more than his "girlfriend".....she must be a real looker!).
Hey come on now girl friends are for the time being, 4RUNNER's are forever. At least dumping money into the 4runner is not to bad, it will be in the driveway, as for the girl friend she could be gone tommorrow.
neliconcept
New member
i was only joking and making a figurative speech about the comparison
you want some ideas?
a goodyear mtr will handle up to 100mph as I have tested and I have tested different tires.. the bfg m/ts are very nice and have great off road tread
the nitto terra grapplers are going to be probablly the best overall for on road manners and off road as well.
285's wont fit end of story. 265/70/17 is as big as you want to go with stock sus. thats also end of story.
hope that helps
you want some ideas?
a goodyear mtr will handle up to 100mph as I have tested and I have tested different tires.. the bfg m/ts are very nice and have great off road tread
the nitto terra grapplers are going to be probablly the best overall for on road manners and off road as well.
285's wont fit end of story. 265/70/17 is as big as you want to go with stock sus. thats also end of story.
hope that helps
Kmvreter
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Re: My first and last Thread!
See how passionate some can get about certain subjects! We all have opinions and different ways of expressing them. Notice how they made up and are due for a group hug.
Don't give up on us this quick. Stick around, part of this is for the entertainment value (it is free after all) and the other part is for the amount of knowledge. As others have said, this forum is pretty tame compared to some where you don't even want to ask a question for fear of getting flamed.
I'm with you on the hijacking. I hate it.
Hubbard said:
See how passionate some can get about certain subjects! We all have opinions and different ways of expressing them. Notice how they made up and are due for a group hug.
Don't give up on us this quick. Stick around, part of this is for the entertainment value (it is free after all) and the other part is for the amount of knowledge. As others have said, this forum is pretty tame compared to some where you don't even want to ask a question for fear of getting flamed.
I'm with you on the hijacking. I hate it.
Koz
New member
Re: My first and last Thread!
Don't take this the wrong way but you are fairly new to this site, this being your first post. With that said, you will find that in time this place is a little more then just another car site. It is a bunch of very loyal 4Runner owners (and a bunch of nice guys and gals) that sort of make up a very big Family. By the way, welcome to the Family!
Back to your original post, a 285/70/17 M/T tire will most likely need a lift and trimming. From your post, you indicated you wanted to keep it stock. Any lift, with bigger more aggressive tires, will in-fact have negative affect on on-road driving (mostly highway). The biggest tire you could fit, without any modding, would be approx 265/70/17 to 275/70/17 (the 275 may slightly rub). The larger the tire the more handling you compromise.
These are my personal recommendations to pick from, 265/65-70/17
Hubbard said:Wow, you guys really know how to take a thread and throw-up all over it!
I started this tread looking for some advice on a couple of tires I was looking at to replace my stock Dunlops, and some of you guys just hyjacked the thread to blab on and on about your current tire!
All of this really just ended up reading like a bunch of guys who want to make themselves feel better about their personal purchasing decision.
Some of you were helpful (thank you!), but the rest of you need to take a break (especially the guy who says he loves his truck almost more than his "girlfriend".....she must be a real looker!).
Don't take this the wrong way but you are fairly new to this site, this being your first post. With that said, you will find that in time this place is a little more then just another car site. It is a bunch of very loyal 4Runner owners (and a bunch of nice guys and gals) that sort of make up a very big Family. By the way, welcome to the Family!
Back to your original post, a 285/70/17 M/T tire will most likely need a lift and trimming. From your post, you indicated you wanted to keep it stock. Any lift, with bigger more aggressive tires, will in-fact have negative affect on on-road driving (mostly highway). The biggest tire you could fit, without any modding, would be approx 265/70/17 to 275/70/17 (the 275 may slightly rub). The larger the tire the more handling you compromise.
These are my personal recommendations to pick from, 265/65-70/17
Thanks Guys!
Well, I went with the Nitto TerraGrapplers and they look very sweet on the 4Runner! The're quiet and seem to handle pretty well; not much of a difference from the stock Dunlaps.
The biggest difference I've noticed is that the truck now sits up a bit higher, which I like!
Thanks for the help....I think I'll stick around a while and see what I can learn from you guys.
Well, I went with the Nitto TerraGrapplers and they look very sweet on the 4Runner! The're quiet and seem to handle pretty well; not much of a difference from the stock Dunlaps.
The biggest difference I've noticed is that the truck now sits up a bit higher, which I like!
Thanks for the help....I think I'll stick around a while and see what I can learn from you guys.
Hi,
Well this thread came along just at the right time. I have an 03 4R LTD V8 with the stock ATs on it. I live on the edge of the Canadian Rockies and don't do any off roading to speak of so I'm looking for a tire thats good on ice and snow and of course rain. Living in Calgary can bring all kinds of weather within days of each other.
I'd also prefer a tire that is quite and smooth riding. After reading this thread it seems like most want tires for off roading and only care about off road performance.
Anyone have any experience with strickly mountain highway driving. In the middle of summer you can still get surprised by ice slicked highways up in the passes, thus the reason for good ice traction as well.
Maybe I'm asking for too much for one tire. I've also read how some tires were causing worse gas milage, is because of tire weight or just poor rolling resistance.
Thanks for any suggestions, and yes I've done a sh!t load of reading over at the tirerack but I'd like to hear from fellow 4R owners.
Thanks
Well this thread came along just at the right time. I have an 03 4R LTD V8 with the stock ATs on it. I live on the edge of the Canadian Rockies and don't do any off roading to speak of so I'm looking for a tire thats good on ice and snow and of course rain. Living in Calgary can bring all kinds of weather within days of each other.
I'd also prefer a tire that is quite and smooth riding. After reading this thread it seems like most want tires for off roading and only care about off road performance.
Anyone have any experience with strickly mountain highway driving. In the middle of summer you can still get surprised by ice slicked highways up in the passes, thus the reason for good ice traction as well.
Maybe I'm asking for too much for one tire. I've also read how some tires were causing worse gas milage, is because of tire weight or just poor rolling resistance.
Thanks for any suggestions, and yes I've done a sh!t load of reading over at the tirerack but I'd like to hear from fellow 4R owners.
Thanks
Mr. Lambdebois
New member
Wt8 the silent armors or bfg at ko's would be what I would look at if I were you for an all year tire. These have testable data indicating they will get above average traction in snow and ice compared to other all- terrains... and not just user biased opinions to back them up. While many other tires would work fine... If my wife had to go to work and a storm was coming in I would feel very safe with her in a 4x4 4runner and a set of bfgs of silent armors as an all year option because of the snowflake on the mountain symbol.
Others will say the revos and nittos will work fine... and I am sure they will work great especially compared to the stock dunflop road tires. With common sence and cautious driving I would bet you would be fine 99.9999 percent of the time in a 4x4 4runner with regular tires unless you get off the road a lot and are careless.
Others will say the revos and nittos will work fine... and I am sure they will work great especially compared to the stock dunflop road tires. With common sence and cautious driving I would bet you would be fine 99.9999 percent of the time in a 4x4 4runner with regular tires unless you get off the road a lot and are careless.
Kmvreter
New member
WTS said:
No "strickly mountain experience" but you aren't "asking for too much for one tire." The Mich CT will work for you. No, it's not an A/T or a winter tire but it's the best all round all season tire and it will stick in winter. You get what you pay for. I have the BFG's specifically for winter and I wouldn't run them all year if noise is a consideration.
