America this week, what the hell?

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Downsize, dwindle...whatever. You can't even spell morale so I can't really continue with you.

In other news - anyone see Giuliani forget about 9/11? That man has lost his marbles.
 
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ndcent said:
Downsize, dwindle...whatever. You can't even spell morale so I can't really continue with you.

In other news - anyone see Giuliani forget about 9/11? That man has lost his marbles.
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He is suffering from Trump.....he spun himself into confusion, lmao!

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So how come President Obama hasn't come out denouncing the actions of the riots in Wisconsin?

He is so quick to judge people without facts and get on TV with a grandiose speech when it fits his narrative and agenda/bias, but when black people are rioting over a felon getting shot for pointing a stolen gun at an officer and not complying and the rioters are beating up white people for the color of their skin- crickets...

He must be too busy golfing to care.

Shock Video?Milwaukee Rioters: 'They Beatin' Up Every White Person!' - Breitbart

https://youtu.be/cDH4-2t3Tvc

Bodycam Shows Black Milwaukee Officer Shot Suspect, Sylville Smith, Who Was Raising Gun - Blue Lives Matter

So we have a stolen gun being pointed at an officer, perp not complying and he gets shot (Textbook good shoot)- but portions of the local community decides to get stupid and get their backasswards point across by lighting cop cars on fire, throwing bricks at LEO's and finding white people to beat up.

Amazing that these folks loot and burn their own city's down, as if that will somehow solve anything or affect positive change of stereotypes...

This nation is a powder keg right now, the right spark and it's gonna go.

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https://newrepublic.com/minutes/136072/rudy-giuliani-hates-obama-much-forgot-911

Giuliani is trash.

"I wish people would remember this story: After the 1993 WTC bombings, the FDNY found that some of their radios would not work inside the towers. For the next 8 years they requested upgraded radio systems so that they could communicate more effectively on the scene of incidents like that, should they ever happen again. Guliani pushed against these requests, and they were never given better radios.

When the first tower came down, an evacuation of the second tower was called. All FDNY and NYPD personnel were to try and leave the building before it's too late. But, the radios didn't work. Many, many firefighters and police never heard the call, and remained inside attempting to rescue people until the second tower collapsed. Guliani doomed these brave people to die inside there because he was stingy about helping them get the equipment they needed, and now he parades around as if he's some sort of hero.

Guliani got firefighters and police killed on 9/11. Guliani did nothing positive on or after 9/11 to help police and firefighters. He's a ****ing ghoul who keeps bringing up that it happened in the city while he was mayor as if that somehow qualifies him for anything, but when you know the truth...emergency servants died because of Guliani and every time he sanctimoniously talks about 9/11 I want to spit in his scumbag face."

Here's a video from the IAFF, firefighters union, about Guliani's fraudulent "9/11" narrative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I
 
ndcent said:
Downsize, dwindle...whatever. You can't even spell morale so I can't really continue with you.

In other news - anyone see Giuliani forget about 9/11? That man has lost his marbles.
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One means to shrink. The other can also mean degenerate.
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So yea whatever. Sound like Hillary now. Next thing we know you'll say what difference does it make.


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ndcent said:
Breitbart thought the polls were biased against Trump. So it did its own poll. Clinton won. - Vox

/sad trombone
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The fix was in for Clinton before Trump was even running.

I've been saying Hillary would be the next POTUS since the day after Obummer got elected the second time. How he got a second term is just insane to me, but I guess it just shows where we are at in this country.

Here's a quote from a Propagandhi song- for you folks up in the great white North who like punk rock:

"If you're dumb enough to vote, you're fvcking dumb enough to believe them"

I still vote, but it is painfully obvious it only counts on the local level. Electoral college has it in the bag for whomever pulls the purse strings. This year it is Klinton.

This whole TRUMP/CLINTON affair reminds me of kang and kodos from the Simpsons tree house of horrors VII.
 
nevada said:
a large portion of the government you like so much is made up by republicans that you do not.

government is a 2-headed monster, and they are both trying to eat us.


so, military and infrastructure? something that actually would be the governments responsibility. perhaps that's where they need to keep their interests, and not in private business. though, the amount of money that was spent on those things, im not sure they could be deemed a success. plus all the other areas they have failed. I would say in general, the American government is terrible at "governing". but they are great at spending!
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You were trying to make the point that the government has never done anything right, and you're just wrong about it.

The government has done a pretty good job over the years of keeping the country safe, when you consider the threats we've faced. There have absolutely been mistakes, but this whole notion that we should scrap it and resort to anarchy is just a load of crap.

What's happening right now is a power shift, and it's messy. As the country becomes more diversified, the white Christian right is losing their grip on the government, and they're going out like a kicking, screaming toddler being dragged from a birthday party.

The last seven years the Republican party has been the party of obstructionism. They refuse to govern. They refuse to set a budget. They've shut the government down once and threatened to do it again because they can't get their way. They've done absolutely nothing but bash the president, and put up unprecedented road blocks to prevent him from being able to govern. But that comes with a cost, because when you try to make the government ineffective, you hurt LOTS of people, even ones who would otherwise support you.

The whole birther movement was an absolute circus, and Republican leadership should have condemned it from the start. It was against Obama though, so they fanned the flames. Then when it almost died out, Trump decided to become the ringmaster of that circus (and ended up looking like a fool for it). The problem is, now it's not Obama that's jumping through hoops, it's the Republicans that sat back and enjoyed the show back in 2011.

What goes around comes around, and when you're the "do nothing party" eventually it's going to bite you.

The good thing is, eventually that kicking screaming toddler DOES get dragged out the door, and everyone else is better off for it. Without a massive restructuring, the Republican party has won their last Presidential election. This one's already lost, and the next one will be too if they don't stop catering to the ignorant.

If you say you can't stand Hillary, but voted for Trump in a primary, you're a fool. He's the ONE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that had absolutely no shot at beating her.
 
Gunslinger-13 said:
The fix was in for Clinton before Trump was even running.

I've been saying Hillary would be the next POTUS since the day after Obummer got elected the second time. How he got a second term is just insane to me, but I guess it just shows where we are at in this country.
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Oh for ****s sake give it a rest!! :gun4:

Anyone else on the Republican ticket would have beaten Hillary.

What it shows is that you don't understand the country. You don't win Presidential elections anymore with the angry male white vote. If you want a seat at the table, you come to the middle where the majority is.

Obama got elected a second time because the people who opposed them were too busty catering to people like you, who know more about making up stupid names like a child on a playground than about actually governing.


Obama didn't just win the electoral college, he won the popular vote BOTH TIMES.

Obama is the first president to achieve the 51 percent mark in two elections since Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower, who did it in 1952 and 1956, and the first Democrat to do so since Franklin D. Roosevelt, who won four consecutive White House races. Roosevelt received 53.4 percent of the vote -- his lowest -- in his last race in 1944.
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And stop whining about the electoral college. That's the way its always been, and it isn't changing. If you want to play the game, learn the rules!
 
jeremyc74 said:
You were trying to make the point that the government has never done anything right, and you're just wrong about it.

The government has done a pretty good job over the years of keeping the country safe, when you consider the threats we've faced. There have absolutely been mistakes, but this whole notion that we should scrap it and resort to anarchy is just a load of crap.

What's happening right now is a power shift, and it's messy. As the country becomes more diversified, the white Christian right is losing their grip on the government, and they're going out like a kicking, screaming toddler being dragged from a birthday party.

The last seven years the Republican party has been the party of obstructionism. They refuse to govern. They refuse to set a budget. They've shut the government down once and threatened to do it again because they can't get their way. They've done absolutely nothing but bash the president, and put up unprecedented road blocks to prevent him from being able to govern. But that comes with a cost, because when you try to make the government ineffective, you hurt LOTS of people, even ones who would otherwise support you.

The whole birther movement was an absolute circus, and Republican leadership should have condemned it from the start. It was against Obama though, so they fanned the flames. Then when it almost died out, Trump decided to become the ringmaster of that circus (and ended up looking like a fool for it). The problem is, now it's not Obama that's jumping through hoops, it's the Republicans that sat back and enjoyed the show back in 2011.

What goes around comes around, and when you're the "do nothing party" eventually it's going to bite you.

The good thing is, eventually that kicking screaming toddler DOES get dragged out the door, and everyone else is better off for it. Without a massive restructuring, the Republican party has won their last Presidential election. This one's already lost, and the next one will be too if they don't stop catering to the ignorant.

If you say you can't stand Hillary, but voted for Trump in a primary, you're a fool. He's the ONE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that had absolutely no shot at beating her.
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A really good salient post that sums up alot of what has happened and why America is where it is now. Thank you.

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Really are you still trying to pick a fight? Grow the F up.

It come from when Hillary was being questioned regarding Benghazi and the deaths of 4 Americans. Why she lied multiple times regarding the cause of the start of the attack. Was this because of some guys out for a walk or was it because of a protest about a movie.

Is that close enough for you.


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jeremyc74 said:
You were trying to make the point that the government has never done anything right, and you're just wrong about it.



The government has done a pretty good job over the years of keeping the country safe, when you consider the threats we've faced. There have absolutely been mistakes, but this whole notion that we should scrap it and resort to anarchy is just a load of crap.



What's happening right now is a power shift, and it's messy. As the country becomes more diversified, the white Christian right is losing their grip on the government, and they're going out like a kicking, screaming toddler being dragged from a birthday party.



The last seven years the Republican party has been the party of obstructionism. They refuse to govern. They refuse to set a budget. They've shut the government down once and threatened to do it again because they can't get their way. They've done absolutely nothing but bash the president, and put up unprecedented road blocks to prevent him from being able to govern. But that comes with a cost, because when you try to make the government ineffective, you hurt LOTS of people, even ones who would otherwise support you.



The whole birther movement was an absolute circus, and Republican leadership should have condemned it from the start. It was against Obama though, so they fanned the flames. Then when it almost died out, Trump decided to become the ringmaster of that circus (and ended up looking like a fool for it). The problem is, now it's not Obama that's jumping through hoops, it's the Republicans that sat back and enjoyed the show back in 2011.



What goes around comes around, and when you're the "do nothing party" eventually it's going to bite you.



The good thing is, eventually that kicking screaming toddler DOES get dragged out the door, and everyone else is better off for it. Without a massive restructuring, the Republican party has won their last Presidential election. This one's already lost, and the next one will be too if they don't stop catering to the ignorant.



If you say you can't stand Hillary, but voted for Trump in a primary, you're a fool. He's the ONE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that had absolutely no shot at beating her.
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Oh yea on your whole birther moment. Yes the republicans should have condemned it from the beginning. Yes they should have condemned Hillary Clinton for starting the "birther" movement. She was the original birther.


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jeremyc74 said:
You were trying to make the point that the government has never done anything right, and you're just wrong about it.

The government has done a pretty good job over the years of keeping the country safe, when you consider the threats we've faced. There have absolutely been mistakes, but this whole notion that we should scrap it and resort to anarchy is just a load of crap.

What's happening right now is a power shift, and it's messy. As the country becomes more diversified, the white Christian right is losing their grip on the government, and they're going out like a kicking, screaming toddler being dragged from a birthday party.

The last seven years the Republican party has been the party of obstructionism. They refuse to govern. They refuse to set a budget. They've shut the government down once and threatened to do it again because they can't get their way. They've done absolutely nothing but bash the president, and put up unprecedented road blocks to prevent him from being able to govern. But that comes with a cost, because when you try to make the government ineffective, you hurt LOTS of people, even ones who would otherwise support you.

The whole birther movement was an absolute circus, and Republican leadership should have condemned it from the start. It was against Obama though, so they fanned the flames. Then when it almost died out, Trump decided to become the ringmaster of that circus (and ended up looking like a fool for it). The problem is, now it's not Obama that's jumping through hoops, it's the Republicans that sat back and enjoyed the show back in 2011.

What goes around comes around, and when you're the "do nothing party" eventually it's going to bite you.

The good thing is, eventually that kicking screaming toddler DOES get dragged out the door, and everyone else is better off for it. Without a massive restructuring, the Republican party has won their last Presidential election. This one's already lost, and the next one will be too if they don't stop catering to the ignorant.

If you say you can't stand Hillary, but voted for Trump in a primary, you're a fool. He's the ONE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that had absolutely no shot at beating her.
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you completely missed the point. but im not surprised. the governments job IS to protect this country, I would hope they were able to do it.
the issue is all the other bullshit they are trying to do that is NOT their job.

they shut the government down, and it should have stayed shut down. they do not have the money to operate. them shutting it down was a GOOD thing.
but, the republicans are all to blame. with an attitude like that, no wonder we are paddling up this shit creek right now.
you cannot spend yourself out of debt, but damnit, the democrats sure try!
 
nevada said:
you completely missed the point. but im not surprised. the governments job IS to protect this country, I would hope they were able to do it.
the issue is all the other bullshit they are trying to do that is NOT their job.

they shut the government down, and it should have stayed shut down. they do not have the money to operate. them shutting it down was a GOOD thing.
but, the republicans are all to blame. with an attitude like that, no wonder we are paddling up this shit creek right now.
you cannot spend yourself out of debt, but damnit, the democrats sure try!
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They didn't shut the government down to stop spending. They shut it down to stop paying debts we ALREADY OWE.

This would be the equivalent of you running up a credit card and then not paying the bill in order to control your spending. You control spending through the budget, NOT the debt limit. Defaulting on our debts would have ruined our credit rating and cost a fortune. It takes a real moron to buy that BS.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Really are you still trying to pick a fight? Grow the F up.

It come from when Hillary was being questioned regarding Benghazi and the deaths of 4 Americans. Why she lied multiple times regarding the cause of the start of the attack. Was this because of some guys out for a walk or was it because of a protest about a movie.

Is that close enough for you.


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In was a statement regarding the cause of the situation, not the deaths of the people involved, and it was in response to an absolutely idiotic line of questioning and about 4 hours into a witch hunt. Hillary pummeled those idiots.

Watch it for yourself before you spout that BS. It makes you sound like a political hack with your head in the sand.

hillary what difference does it make quote - Bing video

And in case you're too stubborn to watch the video, here's the transcript.

In Context: Hillary Clinton's 'What difference does it make' comment | PolitiFact


Johnson: But, Madame Secretary, do you disagree with me that a simple phone call to those evacuees to determine what happened wouldn’t have ascertained immediately that there was no protest? That was a piece of information that could have been easily, easily obtained?

Clinton: But, Senator, again—

Johnson: Within hours, if not days?

Clinton: Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

Johnson: I realize that’s a good excuse.

Clinton: Well, no, it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because, even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown --

Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that -- an assault sprang out of that -- and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.
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