Best speculation of a 2023 6th generation I have seen

[Jetboy]

I don't think the GX is as wide as it seems here. There's something in the measurement comparison.

EDIT: The info I've found says without mirrors the GX is 77.9" wide, LX600 is 78.35, and Sequoia is 79.9. That makes more sense, but still closer than it appears in the interior photos. I suspect the door to door width is more like 6 inches narrower and the fender width is close to the same due to the wide body fenders. There's pretty easily 3 inches of wide body fender extension in the GX. Invariably someone will feel that no matter how wide the OEM fenders are - they still need fiberglass wide body fenders that are even wider.

Sequoia:

GX550:

 

[Blackwatch]

2024 Lexus TX: Three Luxurious Rows and a 406-HP Plug-In Hybrid Are you sure the GX is getting the 2.4 turbo hybrid? Since the tx550h get a 3.5 V6 for engine and the GX hybrid might as well be a 550h the same set up could be possible.

Buying the New 2024 Lexus GX 550?! // Full Breakdown of Trims, Colors, Options and MORE - YouTube

At the 1:00 minute mark he shows the 2.4 turbo hybrid as the GX550h's engine.

 

[Baystate4Runner]

With the GX being so wide, will raptor lights be cool? Asking for a friend...

If the GX really was 83 wide, raptor lights would be required by DOT. But it’s not and hence it doesn’t have those lights from factory.

 

[mscot]

You know, my initial impression of the TX was quite good, but once I saw more pictures of it (and the interior), I tend to agree that it will be hard to justify the cost of one of these over a Grand Highlander in the top trims. I'm perplexed about the F Sport Performance trims and if they will drive better than a Grand Highlander with the Hybridmax powertrain, but other than that I don't see the point of spending the likely $15K or more premium for this vehicle over a similarly equipped Grand.

A couple of things on this. I saw a darker colored TX and it looked ok. The lighter colors are pretty ugly b/c of the greater contrast in the front end.
Something to keep in mind is that the Lexus should have much better sound insulation and suspension - resulting in a nicer driving experience.
I also saw one of the youtube walkthroughs of the interior and what I noticed is that instead of wood, it appears they have done more fabric on the panels thatn I've seen in other luxury cars. If the seats are far more comfortable than the GH, that would give another reason to look at the additional costs.

I couldn't imagine buying anything but the top engine in the Lexus TX. Without that, I would agree that its probably better to get the GH (especially if I'm wrong on the sound insulation, which I doubt I am, Toyota does a shit job there).

What I care about is how the GH Max engine will do in the mountains? Can I do 80 up the passes without the engine screaming at me?

 

[TexasFunRunner]

I don't think the GX is as wide as it seems here. There's something in the measurement comparison.

EDIT: The info I've found says without mirrors the GX is 77.9" wide, LX600 is 78.35, and Sequoia is 79.9. That makes more sense, but still closer than it appears in the interior photos. I suspect the door to door width is more like 6 inches narrower and the fender width is close to the same due to the wide body fenders. There's pretty easily 3 inches of wide body fender extension in the GX. Invariably someone will feel that no matter how wide the OEM fenders are - they still need fiberglass wide body fenders that are even wider.

[MENTION=118321]Jetboy[/MENTION], we were both thinking along the same lines, my drawing from yesterday was my first attempt to discover the true width. I've made another one today, thank you for the tip about the rear seat width.

After some digging I discovered what I believe is a mistake in the Toyota press releases, in the US press release it states the width is 83.22" and in the World press release it states the width is 1,980mm (which is 77.9"). They are the same vehicle so therefore one spec has to be incorrect.

I made the below drawing to calculate the actual dimensions by backing into the true width by using the published Tread/Track width from the press release plus the 265/70R18 tire width for the Overtrail model. I then estimated the flare extension in order to back into the correct overall width dimension. Since the mirrors sit inboard of the fender flares, they are not part of the equation.

You can see from my drawing below I believe the:
CORRECT width dimension is 77.9" width from the World press release and the,
INCORRECT width dimension is 83.22" width from the US press release.

Fellow engineers and data diggers, please double check my figures and post any other calculations you have.

 

[Buckfever]

I wonder what the MPG will be on the hybrid?

 

[TexasFunRunner]

Check out Toyota's latest tease.

Updated Phase 1 FB.MOV | Did you really think we?d be gone for long? The legend returns. | By Toyota USA - Facebook

 

[Mathmatic]

Buying the New 2024 Lexus GX 550?! // Full Breakdown of Trims, Colors, Options and MORE - YouTube

At the 1:00 minute mark he shows the 2.4 turbo hybrid as the GX550h's engine.

Well since the next 4 runner and the tacoma will get this exact powertrain i think that it’s a failure. The GX should have a more upscale powertrain.

 

[AZ Craig]

If the GX really was 83 wide, raptor lights would be required by DOT. But it’s not and hence it doesn’t have those lights from factory.

You know, I was wondering about this exact same thing a few days ago. Probably supports something indeed being wrong with the measurement.

 

[DC3TX]

After some digging I discovered what I believe is a mistake in the Toyota press releases, in the US press release it states the width is 83.22" and in the World press release it states the width is 1,980mm (which is 77.9"). They are the same vehicle so therefore one spec has to be incorrect.

I've been lurking around here for awhile as I'll be in the market for a new vehicle later this year and will be considering Toyota's new offerings including the 4Runner, Tacoma, GX & LC.

Here is some information I've gleaned concerning the width of the GX.

First, the press release linked in post #1022 above states the following: "The overall width increases by 3.74 inches (Overtrail by 4.52 inches) compared to the previous-generation GX."

That puts the Overtrail around 78.72" and the other models around 77.94" based on the previous model being 74.2" wide (per Lexus website specs). The difference is wider fender flares on the Overtrail.

Second, the Overtrail may have different mirrors than does the other models. I can't find it now but, in one of the walk-around videos I viewed on YouTube, the guy alluded to the possibility that the Overtrail mirrors could extend. (Edit: I've not been able to confirm his statement. He's also the one that said there were two different mirrors and implied they were different sizes. I also can't confirm that other than both Luxury models and the Overtrail + have "mirrors with puddle lamps" as an option and the other models do not. If puddle lamps are the only difference, then all models likely have the same dimension mirrors.) I believe the 83.22" measurement is at the furthest extent of the mirrors. In an Autoweek article, they state "The new GX is 83.22 inches wide with the mirrors out...".

I can say with reasonable conviction that there is no way the body on the GX will be 83.22" wide as that is over 2" wider than my Suburban and I don't see that as a possibility.

Hope this helps.

DC

 

[AZ Craig]

Check out Toyota's latest tease.

Updated Phase 1 FB.MOV | Did you really think we?d be gone for long? The legend returns. | By Toyota USA - Facebook

Great, now we have to put up with more pictures of headlights, logos and vehicles obscurbed with splashing water for the next 8 to 12 weeks. Perfect!

 

[AZ Craig]

A couple of things on this. I saw a darker colored TX and it looked ok. The lighter colors are pretty ugly b/c of the greater contrast in the front end.
Something to keep in mind is that the Lexus should have much better sound insulation and suspension - resulting in a nicer driving experience.
I also saw one of the youtube walkthroughs of the interior and what I noticed is that instead of wood, it appears they have done more fabric on the panels thatn I've seen in other luxury cars. If the seats are far more comfortable than the GH, that would give another reason to look at the additional costs.

I couldn't imagine buying anything but the top engine in the Lexus TX. Without that, I would agree that its probably better to get the GH (especially if I'm wrong on the sound insulation, which I doubt I am, Toyota does a shit job there).

What I care about is how the GH Max engine will do in the mountains? Can I do 80 up the passes without the engine screaming at me?

I think the only images I have seen up to this point are white; definitely would like to see how it looks in a black or blue. There is an interesting color called "incognito" which is only going to be available on the F-Sport trims; seems like a matte earth tone (which is all the rage right now of course).

I think the max engine will have plenty of power for uphill climbs. Honestly from what I've seen, most 2.0T engines with around 280hp do way better up hill than the dinosuar 4.0L in the 4Runner. Climbing is probably one of the things I enjoy the least driving that vehicle to be honest (and God knows we do a lot of it out here whenever we leave the Phoenix metro area).

We'll know more once some first drives come out for the TX I imagine; probably a few months away though.

 

[mscot]

I think the only images I have seen up to this point are white; definitely would like to see how it looks in a black or blue.

Of course I can't find the video I saw. It was of the darker grey and I thought it looked ok. I'm curious how a deep red or blue will look as well.
Here's all I can find now from a quick scan of the tube for the darker grey.

REVEALED: the 2024 Lexus TX! - YouTube

 

[TexasFunRunner]

I don't know much. There are a few public plans to build significant battery capacity in conjunction with Panasonic. But it's a few years away at least. I expect that Toyota will catch up, but the open question for me is whether there is sufficient natural resources and if there will be a new technology that disrupts the entire battery industry before then.

The GX and LX will be BEV by 2030 according to Lexus. So they better get to work. This is likely the last generation of BOF ICE models. I'm not sure how much effort they want to put into redesigning with better batteries or just going forward to a full EV generation next. I'd love to see some PHEV BOF models, but I don't know if we'll ever see that from Toyota.

[MENTION=118321]Jetboy[/MENTION], it looks like Toyota just lite a fire and their stock is up 5% today, long duration batteries in 2026.

KEY POINTS

- The new unit, named BEV Factory, is aiming to produce electric vehicles with a range of 1,000 kilometers.

- BEV Factory will introduce a full lineup of battery electric vehicles with "next generation" batteries from 2026.

- This continues a more aggressive push by the Japanese automaker toward all-electric vehicles under new CEO Koji Sato.

Toyota shares surge 5% after announcing plans for next-gen battery EVs
Toyota shares surge after announcing plans for next-gen battery EVs

 

[AZ Craig]

Of course I can't find the video I saw. It was of the darker grey and I thought it looked ok. I'm curious how a deep red or blue will look as well.
Here's all I can find now from a quick scan of the tube for the darker grey.

REVEALED: the 2024 Lexus TX! - YouTube

Thanks; definitely looks better but still pretty boring and anonymous.

That's definitely an Achilles' heel of mine though, I like interesting colors on my vehicles unlike the vast majority of Americans.

 

[mscot]

Thanks; definitely looks better but still pretty boring and anonymous.

Most unibody SUVs do, IMO. The only ones that I like the styling on are the Mercedes GLE AMG and the LR Disco, Defender, and RR. The X5 is ok, not great IMO. And I still have a soft spot for VW Touaregs but the new ones just look like an upscale Atlas Sport. None of the Asian or US unibodies look good to me.

 

[tpetsch]

It's official: the Toyota Land Cruiser is coming back to the U.S. - Autoblog

 

[Jetboy]

Great, now we have to put up with more pictures of headlights, logos and vehicles obscurbed with splashing water for the next 8 to 12 Months. Perfect!

Fixed it for you.

 

[Jetboy]

[MENTION=118321]Jetboy[/MENTION], it looks like Toyota just lite a fire and their stock is up 5% today, long duration batteries in 2026.

KEY POINTS

- The new unit, named BEV Factory, is aiming to produce electric vehicles with a range of 1,000 kilometers.

- BEV Factory will introduce a full lineup of battery electric vehicles with "next generation" batteries from 2026.

- This continues a more aggressive push by the Japanese automaker toward all-electric vehicles under new CEO Koji Sato.

Toyota shares surge 5% after announcing plans for next-gen battery EVs
Toyota shares surge after announcing plans for next-gen battery EVs

This is what the hybrid models need - better batteries and more capacity. A PHEV version with a 20kwh battery matched with the T24A would be absolutely killer. If they did that - easy choice to buy over a TTv6 for me.

 

[phillyd2]

Great, now we have to put up with more pictures of headlights, logos and vehicles obscurbed with splashing water for the next 8 to 12 weeks. Perfect!

The other option would be to hear nothing until the second it’s announced. Nobody likes to be teased but at least we now know that we’re getting some.