Chrysler bring diesel option to the Grand Cherokee

[uncbasketball]

Chrysler is bring the diesel option to the Grand Cherokee. While I'm not that big a fan of Jeep but this could be interesting. I would love to have the power of that motor. It'll be a beast with 400 something in HP and torque. If it is pretty decent when it's out, I may have to consider trading in at that point. What do you think? Will other manufacturer follow suit?

Chrysler hiring 1,250 for Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel, Viper

 

[whiskywizard]

As much as I'd love a diesel, I couldn't bring myself to buy a Chrysler to get it.

 

[uncbasketball]

As much as I'd love a diesel, I couldn't bring myself to buy a Chrysler to get it.

I agree with your train of thoughts too. Not a big fan of Chrysler. But this could be game changer for other automakers. I know GM delayed the release of a small block diesel when the economy tanked. They could easily bring that back.

 

[offroadingatc]

Where are you getting the 400 hp number from? I would assume they would be bringing the 237 hp v6 model over.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious.

 

[uncbasketball]

Where are you getting the 400 hp number from? I would assume they would be bringing the 237 hp v6 model over.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious.

You're probably right about the HP. I think it'll will be closer to 250 but the torque will be great though. MPG will probably be pretty good too.

 

[Presta24]

My in laws drive jeeps and jeeps only. They are nice when new, but build quality just isn't there. IMO

 

[1engineer]

Not new. My friend has a 2010 GC with a diesel. Has had it in the shop numerous times from auto leveling headlights that pointed only down (cost him $1,400 t fix that) to sway bar breaking (warranty item) so go for it. He is either going to ge a 4R or a LandCruiser.

 

[JohnJerk]

Not new. My friend has a 2010 GC with a diesel. Has had it in the shop numerous times from auto leveling headlights that pointed only down (cost him $1,400 t fix that) to sway bar breaking (warranty item) so go for it. He is either going to ge a 4R or a LandCruiser.

My neighbor had one in his company fleet. Drove it from UT to CO and it didn't break down and gave great gas mileage (I forget the specific numbers but recall they sounded great). He then went and bought a late model used Benz deisel wagon which had been a total nighmare...

 

[1engineer]

My neighbor had one in his company fleet. Drove it from UT to CO and it didn't break down and gave great gas mileage (I forget the specific numbers but recall they sounded great). He then went and bought a late model used Benz deisel wagon which had been a total nighmare...

His Jeep does not break down, it just breaks pieces. This is his 3rd or 4th jeep in a row and he actually does use it for work off road. He owns several timber tracts. I have ridden in it many times and it is comfortable and has all bells and whistles and the diesel gives him good gas milage but man, stuff just breaks and when it does it is expensive to fix. On his latest diesel Jeep I think he has spent over 6K in non warranty repairs and that is way too much in the 2-3 years he has had it. BTW it is 2009 model. I have him looking at the LC or LE and he likes the LC so far.

 

[KCcarguy]

Come on guys.....IT'S STILL A CHRYSLER.
:redbrick:i

 

[4FL]

They had a diesel before and it flopped, I suspect this one will as well.

My thoughts:

Fuel prices in the US are still too low for a diesel purchase to make financial sense. The diesel option is going to run a few thousand more than standard, that and fuel price per gallon is more. It would take, guessing, over 150k miles to even break even as this thing is not getting outstanding MPG.

It would take a bump up in MPG to the high 20/30 range; higher fuel prices; or the diesel option to be priced low, at least under $1.5k, for a purchase to make financial sense. This is all relative to a similar class SUV.

 

[philsey]

.....Fuel prices in the US are still too low for a diesel purchase to make financial sense. The diesel option is going to run a few thousand more than standard, that and fuel price per gallon is more. It would take, guessing, over 150k miles to even break even as this thing is not getting outstanding MPG.

It would take a bump up in MPG to the high 20/30 range; higher fuel prices; or the diesel option to be priced low, at least under $1.5k, for a purchase to make financial sense. This is all relative to a similar class SUV.

Yup, this. Unless, of course, one just wants a diesel 'cause it's baaaaad.

Yesterday, I rolled my window down just to listen to the 2500 w/ Allison/Duramax sitting next to me at the light.

 

[dekeman]

One might also want a diesel for the torque, the towing capability AND the long range highway economy, all of which the 4R could benefit from an improvement on. Not saying the 4R is inadequate, just that it could be soooo much better. I'm hoping the GC's oil burner has a good take rate, like BMW's X5 and VW's Touareg, which might, just might put the spurs on Toyota to do the same some day. Even better would be to add a small electric motor to back up the turbo diesel.

 

[Antman]

If they made those little pine-tree air fresheners in a "Diesel Scent", I would buy a bunch, stick 'em under my seat and be done with it. My 5th already sounds like a diesel at idle, so all Im missing is the fumes.

Thread jack:
When I was 5 or 6 my Uncle took me to a drive through Safari to see the animals. We were behind some tour buses the entire time, and he had his window cracked. On the way home he asked me what my favorite part of the trip was. I replied " The bus fumes, Uncle Ed. I really liked the bus fumes.". He got pissed and said next time he would just take me to the Greyhound terminal downtown.

I looove diesels!

End thread jack- sorry OP!

 

[uncbasketball]

If they made those little pine-tree air fresheners in a "Diesel Scent", I would buy a bunch, stick 'em under my seat and be done with it. My 5th already sounds like a diesel at idle, so all Im missing is the fumes.

Thread jack:
When I was 5 or 6 my Uncle took me to a drive through Safari to see the animals. We were behind some tour buses the entire time, and he had his window cracked. On the way home he asked me what my favorite part of the trip was. I replied " The bus fumes, Uncle Ed. I really liked the bus fumes.". He got pissed and said next time he would just take me to the Greyhound terminal downtown.

I looove diesels!

End thread jack- sorry OP!

LOL. I think a small block diesel in the 5th 4runner would just be about perfect!!!

 

[CookieRoe]

I'd never buy the stupid Jeep, but this news can be interesting. If it sells (gas prices are expected to rise) and become very popular, maybe it might encourage Toyota to throw the 1KD-FTV engine in the 4R. That would be cool.

 

[billmaks]

One experience with Jeep diesels. Had the Liberty in the diesel version. Good reviews on the Italian engine, always loved a diesel so why not? Great little vehicle at first. Then came the service recalls to "upgrade software" Perfomance kept dropping, mileage kept dropping. Then the oil leak--which 2 dealers weren't sure the source was but knew it would run in the $2K range to fix (my bad--I missed the part where they dropped the engine warranty from 100K to 36K miles...and this showed up at about 38K miles.) Traded it for a 4th gen 4R and never looked back. Got the 5th gen TE almost where I want it and i expect I'll get buried in that one and someone will still have a good life with it.

 

[tlflow]

GC is a POS
... the SRT8 is a really fast POS (a la diarrhea)

 

[dekeman]

On the way home he asked me what my favorite part of the trip was. I replied " The bus fumes, Uncle Ed. I really liked the bus fumes." I looove diesels!

I still take an unexplainable delight in a whiff of my smoking brakes every time i come off the track...something about the smell of hot steel rotors and asbestos. Must be how my dad felt about his Export Plain first thing in the morning. New diesels (not buses) have a really sweet smell I don't mind at all.

 

[obkook]

I would soooo love to see more diesel catch on in the US! I wanted one so badly in a 4R that I had to have it swapped in myself!

It didn't make ANY financial sense whatsoever, but I don't have a single regret.