Do I sawzall my radiator in half for you'all

[myers0ma]

 

[myers0ma]

The 12 gauge slug was the big hole,#4 shot in other hole,all in all Toyota failed rifle test(haha) The close up of fittings was blurry but corrosion going on there.the sludge in bottom was gritty like fine talc powder,but brown.Once again very impressed with overall condition,any one note,It came from factory with green antifreeze,was switched to red toyota type by the dealership at 60k flush,unbeknowst to PO.My manual also states that red used only after 2001 models?

 

[TheDurk]

The 12 gauge slug was the big hole,#4 shot in other hole,all in all Toyota failed rifle test(haha) The close up of fittings was blurry but corrosion going on there.the sludge in bottom was gritty like fine talc powder,but brown.Once again very impressed with overall condition,any one note,It came from factory with green antifreeze,was switched to red toyota type by the dealership at 60k flush,unbeknowst to PO.My manual also states that red used only after 2001 models?

No, my 1999 was born with red. I am original owner. The PINK Super Long Life was introduced in 2002.

http://www.toyotapart.com/ENGINE_COOLANT_COLOR_CHANGE_T-PG010-02.pdf

I believe the red started in 1996, when they went to all-aluminum radiators. Then my idiot dealer put green in it at the 30k service I did for warranty reasons. By 60k, they had gone to using red,(I asked the parts guy) but I had gone to never using the dealer after that 30k service. So I went back to red on my own. The red is sort of a transition fluid, as it provides decent protection for brass/copper componenents. You do NOT want to use the pink in a non-aluminum cooling system, according to the jocks on BITOG.

Thanks for the pics. As I suspected, with decent maintenance the radiator section is robust. I'm leaving my manual transmission rad in there for the foreseeable future.

 

[JB.]

You do NOT want to use the pink in an all-aluminum cooling system, according to the jocks on BITOG.

If you happen to have a link, I'd love to get it.

Just had a timing belt change on a 4th gen with pink factory fill. Mechanic refilled with standard green and said he thinks it performs better with regular maintenance.

 

[TheDurk]

If you happen to have a link, I'd love to get it.

Just had a timing belt change on a 4th gen with pink factory fill. Mechanic refilled with standard green and said he thinks it performs better with regular maintenance.

OOPS! I got that sentence backwards. I left out the "non-". See my edited version.

Toyota red long life & pink super long life same? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Truth is, as a coolant, and freeze and boil protectant, all colors of ethylene-glycol based coolant perform EXACTLY the same. The only difference is compatibility with system materials and corrosion protection. Modern green that your mechanic uses is probably free of the silicates and borates that Toyota engineers hate even if it doesn't have the phosphates they love and Europeans hate. So no issue there. And if, by regular maintenance, that means changing fluid at 30k or less, all colors will work fine. I suspect that what he means, but doesn't say, is: "I ain't stocking a rainbow's worth of coolant colors. It's green every 30k in every car or go somewhere else!"

He's not wrong, but red or pink will do a better job protecting your car for longer--or at least Toyota says it will.

 

[kball]

What we need to do next time the milkshake happens to someone is take the bottom part of the rad off with cooler still intact and pressure test it.

Although I'm sure shooting it and cutting it up was loads of fun!

 

[JB.]

Toyota red long life & pink super long life same? - Bob Is The Oil Guy

....He's not wrong, but red or pink will do a better job protecting your car for longer--or at least Toyota says it will.

Thanks

 

[RussToy]

What we need to do next time the milkshake happens to someone is take the bottom part of the rad off with cooler still intact and pressure test it.

Although I'm sure shooting it and cutting it up was loads of fun!

This would be a great idea. Kind of surprised no one has done this before?!? After looking at the pictures, I'm thinking the main reason for the milkshake is the "O rings". But like Kball said...It would be really cool if someone could actually test one!!