Explain to me how towing in 4WD yields BETTER gas mileage than 2WD?

Simple. Your rig was much lighter on the way out because of all the beer you drank!

Sorry couldn't resist.

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I see that you are in California and Tahoe, but could you please describe why you are using 4WD on the highway when towing your trailer? Is there snow or ice on the roads.

I live in Florida and other than pulling a boat out of a very slippery ramp, don't understand why you would be towing in 4WD for long distances. We don't have hills here.
 
55 MPH averages taken in both 2WD going up and 4WD coming back. Over 120 miles going 55MPH. 2WD 10 MPG, maybe 10.5MPG at best. 4WD 13.5 MPG.

Same stretches, same speeds there and back.
You need a recording of speed and throttle over time to know that, you are basing this on your memory and that's not reliable. I'm also not convinced that you didn't just make a mistake calculating your mileage.
 
I know you meant 4hi. I just thought that 45-50 was the max?

I know that 50mph or so is the max for switching into or out of 4hi to 2hi. But I don't believe it is the max recommended speed as long as you stay in 4hi.

I've accidentally left myself in 4hi for a return trip from the desert at 75 mph on the freeway and couldn't even tell. Wasn't till I was 95% home that I noticed the 4wd light on :D
 
I see that you are in California and Tahoe, but could you please describe why you are using 4WD on the highway when towing your trailer? Is there snow or ice on the roads.

I live in Florida and other than pulling a boat out of a very slippery ramp, don't understand why you would be towing in 4WD for long distances. We don't have hills here.
Heavy, heavy rain, winding roads, snow and ice in higher elevations... All stated in a few posts back.
 
You need a recording of speed and throttle over time to know that, you are basing this on your memory and that's not reliable. I'm also not convinced that you didn't just make a mistake calculating your mileage.

ScanGauge II. Verified (relatively) same throttle, speed, same RPMs, same gear. I could also understand the uphill downhill argument, but that would be only a small segment, and not enough to change MPG that much in relation to the entire trip.

I also had heavy wind, head and cross, coming back, which is when I gained better mileage.

I know it is very puzzling and doesn't seem right, but this is the 3rd or 4th time I have noticed better MPG's in 4WD highway driving towing the trailer in adverse conditions.
 
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No actually uphill vs downhill will make a significantdifference

Your throttle will not be the same uphill vs downhill because the load is different
 
I know that 50mph or so is the max for switching into or out of 4hi to 2hi. But I don't believe it is the max recommended speed as long as you stay in 4hi.

I've accidentally left myself in 4hi for a return trip from the desert at 75 mph on the freeway and couldn't even tell. Wasn't till I was 95% home that I noticed the 4wd light on :D

Sweet. Good to know. Thanks.
 
No actually uphill vs downhill will make a significantdifference

Your throttle will not be the same uphill vs downhill because the load is different

I understand this. The segment of the trip that is in question was relatively the same uphill and downhill slopes to and from, and again, very minor differences, but not long enough, or steep enough, to skew the entire average 3 MPG..

I REALLY wish I could give a definite variable that changes the entire average, but really the only prevailing variable is 2WD vs. 4WD, as conditions were worse on the 4WD segment.
 
No, 2WD vs 4WD is not the only variable

All those other things that we are talking about are variables, they are combining to cause the difference you are seeing. You can not exclude those variables, the grade being opposite is not negligible and the other things aren't either especially when you combine them all.

(although my money is still on that difference not being real)
 
No, 2WD vs 4WD is not the only variable

All those other things that we are talking about are variables, they are combining to cause the difference you are seeing. You can not exclude those variables, the grade being opposite is not negligible and the other things aren't either especially when you combine them all.

(although my money is still on that difference not being real)
I guess I just fail to agree and see that a 3 MPG difference for the entire trip in 4WD, changed so drastically in the short time the 2WD was engaged on the ride back, especially on flat highway speeds. We can go back and forth for days as to why vs why not. Simply stated, I have experienced this on more than one occasion and for the life of me cannot understand how this phenomenon has happened. I must have a really special 4Runner :pray2:
 
55 MPH averages taken in both 2WD going up and 4WD coming back. Over 120 miles going 55MPH. 2WD 10 MPG, maybe 10.5MPG at best. 4WD 13.5 MPG.

Same stretches, same speeds there and back.

Are you saying you drove 2WD there, then switched to 4WD for the return trip?

I run an out and back trip of about 75 miles one way, so it's about 140 miles round trip. I ALWAYS get better fuel economy on the return leg. Why? Because of the net elevation gain/loss. Though it seems like nothing, the gain and then loss of elevation means something in fuel economy.

It's about a 400 foot difference btw....

That, or I'm crazy.
 
I think its more likely that you just think you've noticed it

Plenty of people swear that putting their tailgate down increases their mpg, plenty of people swear that fuel sharks cut their mileage in half, etc...
 
I think its more likely that you just think you've noticed it

Plenty of people swear that putting their tailgate down increases their mpg, plenty of people swear that fuel sharks cut their mileage in half, etc...

My fuel tank noticed it getting about 193 miles until I needed a fill up in 2WD vs 263 miles in 4WD...... Like I said, I must be really CRAZY, and have a very unique 4Runner.. Who knows, maybe its the lift, oversized tires and added weight that is making it GAIN mileage..:help:

OH and BTW... Last month I traveled 1951 miles in 56 hours to and from NM. On way there I was averaging 13.9 MPG with no 2000lb trailer. On way back I had a 2000LB trailer connected the whole way AND I drove just as fast with the trailer as I did w/o, with the exception of in CA, as they have the trailers drive 55 law. and I averaged 13.5 MPG on way back. Only a .4 MPG drop with a 2000lb trailer, and ALL 2WD.....
 
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