In all fairness, there is such a thing as masculine or feminine design. Graceful, swooping, and smooth shapes are more feminine. More squared w/ abrupt transitions is more masculine. Comparatively, the 5th gen is more masculine than the 4th gen based on the overall shape, less subtle transitions, and protrusions of the vehicles. Particularly, the taller, boxier stance w/ the more vertical windscreen. The sharp bulging fender flares and protruding lights on the corners are masculine features as well. For cars, I like a more feminine design. For SUVs or trucks, a masculine look is more appealing to me.
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No, I think you're the one who doesn't get it. I'm not the one saying that the Miata is a gay man's car. That would be you. Yes, I understand that you're not saying that EVERY man who drives a Miata is gay. But you fail to understand that the stereotype you are portraying is likely to be false, similar to other stereotypes. True, a stereotype is just that--a stereotype. The difference here is that I can see the difference between a stereotype of actuality, whereas you obviously cannot.
He makes a decent living. So do I. We both have a six-figure income. I can easily afford an S-Class. I choose not to buy/lease one though...
BTW, his pick-up isn't new. It's actually about 12 years old, I think. I'm not sure of the exact model year, but he's had it for a long time.
No argument there. People do buy hybrids to make a statement about the environment. Some also buy them to save money on gas. Some of them even buy them because they are "techies" and love to have new technology. Some even buy them despite that they can afford any car and have no problems paying any amount of money for gas....you know, like celebrities who drive them. So again your theory about being able to know someone because of the car that he/she drives is once again shot right out of the water. When you see a Prius drive down the road, you can assume whatever you want about the person driving it, but the truth is it could be any of the reasons listed above, or perhaps none of them. They could even have other reasons for driving a Prius.
Yes, this is very true. But keep in mind that sometimes the car makers are surprised when another demographic turns out to be big purchasers of their original target. Look at Scion....they were originally expected to be sold to a VERY young crowd. First time car buyers, actually. But for some reason, Toyota found themselves selling Scions to an older crowd as well. Same exact thing happened with the Honda Element.
Right, not 100% Probably not even 50%. You may think you can, but you'd probably be wrong more often than you think.
Agree 100%. He's an idiot. And he's trying to portray an image that is 100% false. But again, that's my point. There are plenty of people who do that. It's very sad.
You know, it's funny, but I read an article about millionaires in America. There are a lot of them. The funny part is that you wouldn't know it by looking at them. Sure, the ones who drive flashy cars and have big houses and spend big bucks are clothes will always be out there. But what you don't know about are the people who DON'T show their wealth. They appear to be regular old middle class people, but they have more money than you can imagine. That's where you're missing the point. These people are all around you and you probably don't even realize it.
Not really. This all started because you didn't like that I made a comment about the looks of the 5th gen 4Runner. Nothing you have said so far has bothered me because I haven't taken anything personally.Personally I do not care if someone likes whatever I drive, only that I do. You are the one that has issues they need to get over. You are taking everything just a little too personal here, relax, it is just the internet, lolI am the one who has been laughing and making jokes throughout my responces, showing that I am just having fun here.
You have to stop and think for a second why car manufacturers update their vehicles in the first place. Think about it....sales numbers generally decline over the life span of a car generation. Styling needs to be updated from time to time. If any car company could make a car that would sell well forever, then they would surely do it because it would be ultra profitable. Look at the Porsche 911 for example....even that car with it's classic styling as been updated over the years. Nobody will ever sell the same car forever.
Lets just take a deep breath here, relax and smile
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Absolutely. Nobody is even debating that. The problem here is that some folks apparently need to feel that they are in a masculine vehicle to feel manly. Or at least a vehicle they PERCEIVE as "manly".
Or just put it this way.....I just mentioned a Porsche 911 in my last post. It's a car that has soft, graceful, swooping shapes (feminine in your description), yet it is considered a man's sports car. Very "manly" in fact. I wonder how "manly" those guys would feel behind the wheel of a gracefully smooth 911?
To me, when the first guy said manly, he was saying masculine. Purely looking at design (and not the size of the driver's ego, tool, etc.), the 5th gen has a more masculine (or "manly") look about it.
The 911 is a feminine design, no doubt. It evokes passion... and it is dead sexy. I don't use "sexy" when I'm talking about 4Runners. :lol:
Yes, he did say that. And I still think it's funny because I don't see cars as masculine or feminine. Yes, there are feminine and masculine elements in a car's design, but that doesn't make the car (or its driver) any more of a man's car or a woman's car (or for the driver, more of a man or a woman, for that matter.)
I don't think Angelina Jolie would look masculine behind the wheel of a Hummer or a Porsche 911, both cars typically driven by males, but one with admittedly more "feminine" design cues.
Anyway, I'm tired of the whole masculine versus feminine thing. The fact of the matter is that we're talking about the 4th and 5th gen 4Runner here, not a Hummer and a Porsche, which are two vehicles that are about as different as possible.
The world is your oyster. You can do anything you want, although getting the Jay Leno's level would probably require a lot of hard work AND a few big lucky breaks along the way.
westwind77
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Hahaha, that was a great image above! (seen it before but still makes me laugh my arse off, even if it is about me)
Jed, been good 'debating' with you, we obviously see things totally different than each other, but that is what makes this country great. I will let you have the last words with the thread before (well excluding this little post). I am sure this board has had enough of our 'discussion'.
Have fun and maybe one day we will meet at a stop light and settle this like men, unless you have the V8 
(hope that was not too sterotypical, sorry could not resist)Hahaha, that was a great image above! (seen it before but still makes me laugh my arse off, even if it is about me)
Jed, been good 'debating' with you, we obviously see things totally different than each other, but that is what makes this country great. I will let you have the last words with the thread before (well excluding this little post). I am sure this board has had enough of our 'discussion'.
Okay, cool. And nope, no V8 here. I prefer the V6 for various different reasons, but that's a whole other debate
peter78
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I saw this at Craigslist.
2010 Toyota 4Runner SR5
It looks like Sandy Springs Toyota has a 4 cyl. I would love to see a picture of the engine bay and all of it's emptiness.
2010 Toyota 4Runner SR5
It looks like Sandy Springs Toyota has a 4 cyl. I would love to see a picture of the engine bay and all of it's emptiness.
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