Icon Lift question on T4R trail w/ KDSS

[Pkniland]

" No, they changed the track bar. So any coil will do this" - ICON ... I am told their engineering team is looking into this, so I will update this as and when I hear anything.

Thank you all for everything. Hopefully they come up with a fix soon!

Toyota changed the track bar on the 14/15's?

 

[Jeremy556]

Who changed the track bar?

 

[RCFJ]

Extended travel front is fine with KDSS, as long as you have aftermarket UCAs.

On the rear, the shocks are what limit down travel, the springs don't matter.

I thought the rear LCA was the limiter in the rear due the stock one impacting either the axle or the gas tank

 

[sandcrawler]

curious to learn where this goes...

 

[st8rocks]

" No, they changed the track bar. So any coil will do this" - ICON ... I am told their engineering team is looking into this, so I will update this as and when I hear anything.

Thank you all for everything. Hopefully they come up with a fix soon!

Definitely need more details here.... Thanks for keeping us posted. [MENTION=116276]reluctantkarmi[/MENTION]

 

[reluctantkarmi]

FINAL UPDATE : So this is from ICON :

With the new KDSS style suspension we found that the track bar needs to have a 5 degree bend in it. So we basically redesigning the track bar. This process is going to take about 3 weeks to complete. Engineering says you are fine to drive your vehicle with the clunk it makes at droop. It will not do any damage.
- ICON

By far the nicest company to deal with ! Hats off to them for gettin all over this like white on rice. !

 

[Jeremy556]

Are you using the Toyota track bar, or Icon's track bar?

 

[reluctantkarmi]

[MENTION=78273]Jeremy556[/MENTION] : The toyota one, I was told the one that is currently available on the site wouldnt fit the 2015

 

[sandcrawler]

i don't follow. what is "the new KDSS style suspension" ICON is referring to? they're saying the Toyota OEM KDSS suspension is different somehow? how, exactly?

 

[reluctantkarmi]

[MENTION=29376]sandcrawler[/MENTION] - Guess so, not sure how its different, outside my scope of knowledge but it looks like toyota maybe changed something somewhere midway and hence the issue . Sorry I wasn't much help with that answer.

 

[Jeremy556]

[MENTION=78273]Jeremy556[/MENTION] : The toyota one, I was told the one that is currently available on the site wouldnt fit the 2015

It would be incredibly surprising if Toyota changed anything in the suspension geometry, on a model year without even a face lift, that they have been using since 2003. I would have to think someone else here with a '15 would have installed a lift by now and encountered the same problem, but maybe not.

 

[sandcrawler]

[MENTION=29376]sandcrawler[/MENTION] - Guess so, not sure how its different, outside my scope of knowledge but it looks like toyota maybe changed something somewhere midway and hence the issue . Sorry I wasn't much help with that answer.

i think folks will be interested to know exactly what is different and what ICON is redesigning its track bar for. do they plan to offer two different versions of the track bar now? if you could follow up with them and post their response it'd be appreciated.

 

[st8rocks]

With Icon's new track bar do you think it will be possible to run long travel in the rear?

 

[harkco]

This all seems super fishy to me. I have compared a 2013 to my 2014 first hand and did not see any difference. Maybe something was changed on the 2015, but that just would not make any sense in my mind. It is Friday, however, and I have had a few too many drinks.

 

[Bgriff]

Any updates on this? New to the forum and looking at purchasing a 2015 TE premium and doing an icon stage 3. Trying to decide if KDSS is the best move.

Thanks for the info!

 

[brian0128]

Sub'd to find the outcome before I order an Icon Lift for my 2015.

 

[sandcrawler]

i think folks will be interested to know exactly what is different and what ICON is redesigning its track bar for. do they plan to offer two different versions of the track bar now? if you could follow up with them and post their response it'd be appreciated.

With Icon's new track bar do you think it will be possible to run long travel in the rear?

This all seems super fishy to me. I have compared a 2013 to my 2014 first hand and did not see any difference. Maybe something was changed on the 2015, but that just would not make any sense in my mind. It is Friday, however, and I have had a few too many drinks.

dammit. pretty sure i saw someone posted a pic the other day that must've/might've been the redesigned ICON track bar.

i've looked but can't find it now. anyone else see that? :shrug:

 

[Omar RVA]

dammit. pretty sure i saw someone posted a pic the other day that must've/might've been the redesigned ICON track bar.

i've looked but can't find it now. anyone else see that? :shrug:

Ask and you shall receive: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/192380-long-travel-rear-kdss-issue-3.html#post1964057

OA

 

[sandcrawler]

Ask and you shall receive: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/192380-long-travel-rear-kdss-issue-3.html#post1964057

OA

right on. :cheers:

This showed up at the office today.

so, [MENTION=109391]st8rocks[/MENTION] what can you tell us about the new track bar?

 

[st8rocks]

right on. :cheers:

so, [MENTION=109391]st8rocks[/MENTION] what can you tell us about the new track bar?

Works great! And one side has a greaseable bushing.