If gas gets to $5.00 a gallon
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KimoSan
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Gas @ $5/gal
Not sure what I'd do. My wife and I have already switched vehicles for our daily driving (I drive the CR-V, she drives the T4R). The lease on the T4R is over next May so we may just turn it in and walk away. But who knows what the dealer will try to ding me on in order to drive down the value and make me take a hit. I guess I just won't know until that time comes. But I'm sure that eventually I will have to give up the Runner. A sad day that will be too.
Not sure what I'd do. My wife and I have already switched vehicles for our daily driving (I drive the CR-V, she drives the T4R). The lease on the T4R is over next May so we may just turn it in and walk away. But who knows what the dealer will try to ding me on in order to drive down the value and make me take a hit. I guess I just won't know until that time comes. But I'm sure that eventually I will have to give up the Runner. A sad day that will be too.
TeryT said:
That's true only if our markets are totally free and competitive, but they're not. There are some areas that have to be government regulated for the good of society. You really cannot vote with your money when it comes to national security, fuel, education, public transportation. gas & electric, food, communications, health care, and housing. In the U.S. in many of these areas there really is no competition and they are monopolies or near monopolies. We cannot have a lazzaire-faire attitude in all cases. No man is an island. Even from a mercenary standpoint, if more than half the country is suffering because they're unfairly being taken advantage of than we all are suffering and will pay the price in the end.
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TeryT
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"Unfairly being taken advantage of" - you mean paying more taxes towards the ever increasingly bloated government?biglatka said:
Regarding "You really cannot vote with your money when it comes to national security, fuel, education, public transportation. gas & electric, food, communications, health care, and housing." We don't "vote" money effectively for many of these things because government has taken some control away from the free market - is that your point?
I don't see why food should be on that list at all. Yes, health care has been meddled with, and we have little ownership in controlling costs, because we are shielded from taking more ownership by most insurance plans (and dare I mentioned greedy lawyers too?). The choice in fuel/energy has been diminish somewhat due to a 30 year increasingly draconian environmental paradigm that is no longer realistic.
Housing, I doubt should be on that list at all. We have free choice there, don't we? (That's partly what allowed investors and the credit business to run the prices well above true market values. And although it's an unfortunate consequence to free markets, they normally work pretty doggone well!)
TeryT said:
If you're making in excess of $250,000 or so you're paying proportionately less taxes than the real workers in our society that make less than $100,000. Warren Buffet has said many times that he is making out like a bandit and that the taxation system in this country is unfair to the poor and middle classes.
You got it wrong there too, corporations have taken some control away from the free market. We don't have free competitive markets anymore - that is my point!
Food is many times not safe to eat. Why? No one is watching the corporate store anymore. Fifty million Americans do not have any health care coverage at all, and for others that do, the insurance companies deny benefits at a drop of a hat; more unregulated corporate greed. It's time to stop using the environmentalists as scapegoats.
Now here is an area that cries out for regulation. If it weren
Jeff Kleb
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Yeah, that's it. Make the feral government even larger & more powerful. Where the statists have messed things up, let's just give them more power and hope that "this time" they might get it right.
When their ideas fail, just throw more money at the problem and have Congress micro-manage every aspect of our lives.
peter78
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I was talking to my Wife about getting another car, what to buy? Gas is so high, do we get a little car or what? While talking I looked in my records for filling up the 4Runner. In January 7th of 2007, gas was $1.98. Gas has been around $4 now for a few months. That means it doubled in about 13 months. No wonder we are all freaking out. It seems much longer than that. Of course car compaines cannot change their product over night. I wonder what the head designers at Toyota are planning for the new 4Runner??? I wonder what I am planning for my next car??? Times, they do change quickly.
TeryT
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YEE HAW!!! :iagree: Thas jus' what we need - yeah, thas what I'm talkin' 'bout! They know much better how to spend our money than we do ourselves or locally!Jeff Kleb said:
But the best is yet to come. It ain't the Patriot Act that bothers me - it's controls and regulations on my behavior in the name of saving the planet and public healthcare that really worries me most! :bugeye:
K_Labs
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If gas gets to $5.00 a gallon.... lol why wait? I would go to the gas station on my bike and say 10 on pump 12. Then hang out for a while and laugh at all the poor SOBs paying over $50 bucks to fill up their tanks...... O wait I already do that. :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:
004Gunner
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That looks nothing like a beater at all. You got a good deal on a good car but when I do end up buying a car I'll be going for something real nice with moderate fuel economy. I'm hoping to see more diesels hit the market despite the higher fuel cost. Of course keeping the current runner is a must!
bzizzi
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I get the newspaper daily and look at the automotive classifides
@ 5:00 am every morning and after three months of looking this baby showed up.The ad said 2000 Celica GT 78Kmi, body good shape but needs engine work,$2800 obo.So I called and left a message,the girl called back and she told me she took it to the Toyota dealer for a CEL and they quoted her $1300 for repairs for a bad catalyc converter and some other issues.She decided to sell
it as is and I was the first one there and could not believe my eye's when the garage door opened.It started right up and it drve ok with a little hesitation.So i bought it as is and drove it home started looking at the Celica sites for a solution to the problem and it said to clean the MAF sensor and reset the CEL by unhooking the battery gnd for a while,so i did this changed the oil and air filter and it came back to life with no more CEL or hesitation after over 1k mi so far.It has all new tires and almost a year left on inspection.I was already offered $ 6000 from a used car dealer but decided to keep it for a while.I should not loose money even after a couple of years !!!!
@ 5:00 am every morning and after three months of looking this baby showed up.The ad said 2000 Celica GT 78Kmi, body good shape but needs engine work,$2800 obo.So I called and left a message,the girl called back and she told me she took it to the Toyota dealer for a CEL and they quoted her $1300 for repairs for a bad catalyc converter and some other issues.She decided to sell
it as is and I was the first one there and could not believe my eye's when the garage door opened.It started right up and it drve ok with a little hesitation.So i bought it as is and drove it home started looking at the Celica sites for a solution to the problem and it said to clean the MAF sensor and reset the CEL by unhooking the battery gnd for a while,so i did this changed the oil and air filter and it came back to life with no more CEL or hesitation after over 1k mi so far.It has all new tires and almost a year left on inspection.I was already offered $ 6000 from a used car dealer but decided to keep it for a while.I should not loose money even after a couple of years !!!!
RichinRidgewood
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lol
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mnofpeace
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first off......IF?!?!?! Here in Md we've been at or above $5/gal for months now.
secondly, i answered number B...my truth is i own a sport touring motorcycle which i ride 3-4 times to week to commute to work, from April to November. And since that bike gets 38-45mpg depending on speed, that substitutes for the 4Runner during the warmer months of the year here in the mid atlantic.
It is what it is...thankfully i do have a solid, well paying job that affords me the ability to keep driving what i want. Plus, my 2014 T4R has been paid off since 2019...so its not like ive got to make payments, pay full-insurance premiums, AND buy gas...
secondly, i answered number B...my truth is i own a sport touring motorcycle which i ride 3-4 times to week to commute to work, from April to November. And since that bike gets 38-45mpg depending on speed, that substitutes for the 4Runner during the warmer months of the year here in the mid atlantic.
It is what it is...thankfully i do have a solid, well paying job that affords me the ability to keep driving what i want. Plus, my 2014 T4R has been paid off since 2019...so its not like ive got to make payments, pay full-insurance premiums, AND buy gas...
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