It's been fun but I'm movin on...

[Lolrax]

Uhh, I think the TRD supercharger will be pretty close in idea to the ecoboost. I dont know if the TRD charger gets you better mileage though, but the power would definitely be there.

I remember reading in another thread about this that the MPG should be similar, given you are capable of accepting the responsibility that comes with having such power on tap.

Once concern I have is whether or not the Limited 4Runner's full time AWD setup will be prepared for this boost in power. I don't know enough about AWD systems and differentials to know if that even could be an issue, but maybe?

 

[03_4x4Runner]

And identical acceleration. The accel numbers were the same as a 4Runner, in fact.

Not true at all and the F150 is much heavier. From MotorTrend
This is the first time in a long time a V-6 has been the engine at the top of a half-ton's lineup. The EcoBoost doesn't come standard on any F-150, but pricing is aggressive: The upgrade from the 5.0-liter can cost a mere $750, depending on trim level. For that money, you add only 5 horsepower (which peaks at a lower rpm). Big deal, right? The true benefit is with torque, where the gain is 40 pound-feet (420 versus the 5.0's 380), and peak torque is at 2500 rpm as opposed to the 5.0's 4250. The EcoBoost engine doesn't sound like a V-8, but it certainly pulls like one. The twin-turbo's power delivery is much smoother than expected, with no noticeable turbo lag, and much quieter.


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When we set up this story, the idea was to see whether it makes more sense for buyers to get the twin-turbo V-6 or the 5.0-liter V-8. From the dyno and track results, the EcoBoost's performance data makes it a better rival for the 6.2. The EcoBoost F-150 was fastest of the test, reaching 60 mph in 6.2 seconds and finishing the quarter in 14.8 seconds at 95.0 mph

Read more: 2011 Ford F-150 Full Line First Test - Motor Trend

No way a 4runner will run 14.85. Here is the full story.
2011 Ford F-150 Full Line First Test - Motor Trend

The standard 3.5 non turbo V6 is about the same as the 4runner times.

 

[Lolrax]

The EcoBoost F-150 was fastest of the test, reaching 60 mph in 6.2 seconds and finishing the quarter in 14.8 seconds at 95.0 mph

Those are excellent numbers, serious performance on a car that is heavier than the T4R. The 5th gen is doing approx 7.8 0-60 and 15.9 1/4 mile according to Motortrend.

The F150 ecoboost is 16/22 MPG rated and the 4Runner is 17/22 MPG rated. From a Canadian perspective, the F150 Ecoboost comes with a very nice load of options similar to a LTD 5th gen for $5000 less on MSRP.

I didn't know much about that truck but wow, excellent stats. I prefer an SUV over a Pickup, too bad the Explorer is so ugly

 

[PracticalFJ]

Nice move, I did the same 7 weeks (3,500 miles) ago. Love my VW. The mileage is freakin amazing and the torque is absolutely wonderful.

 

[Grizzld]

I had a 2011 Touareg VR6 Sport for a year before I bought my 4Runner—wish I'd have bought the TDI.

It was a fun ride, with a nice fit and finish, but I couldn't stomach the whole crossover deal. No complaints in the reliability department. Only had it for a year, but it was solid.

 

[WIT4R]

Nice move, I did the same 7 weeks (3,500 miles) ago. Love my VW. The mileage is freakin amazing and the torque is absolutely wonderful.

I'm still comming to terms with the mpg. When I had the 4runner I was getting about 17mpg around town, and on the highway I was lucky to see 22mpg (and my 4runner was 2wd). With this TDI, I'm getting 26 mpg around town and the other day I got 30 mpg on the highway.

Diesel is such an efficient way to move a heavy vehicle. Also loving the handling. The Germans know how to tune a suspension that's for sure.

 

[Quentin]

Not true at all and the F150 is much heavier. From MotorTrend
This is the first time in a long time a V-6 has been the engine at the top of a half-ton's lineup. The EcoBoost doesn't come standard on any F-150, but pricing is aggressive: The upgrade from the 5.0-liter can cost a mere $750, depending on trim level. For that money, you add only 5 horsepower (which peaks at a lower rpm). Big deal, right? The true benefit is with torque, where the gain is 40 pound-feet (420 versus the 5.0's 380), and peak torque is at 2500 rpm as opposed to the 5.0's 4250. The EcoBoost engine doesn't sound like a V-8, but it certainly pulls like one. The twin-turbo's power delivery is much smoother than expected, with no noticeable turbo lag, and much quieter.


Click to view Gallery
When we set up this story, the idea was to see whether it makes more sense for buyers to get the twin-turbo V-6 or the 5.0-liter V-8. From the dyno and track results, the EcoBoost's performance data makes it a better rival for the 6.2. The EcoBoost F-150 was fastest of the test, reaching 60 mph in 6.2 seconds and finishing the quarter in 14.8 seconds at 95.0 mph

Read more: 2011 Ford F-150 Full Line First Test - Motor Trend

No way a 4runner will run 14.85. Here is the full story.
2011 Ford F-150 Full Line First Test - Motor Trend

The standard 3.5 non turbo V6 is about the same as the 4runner times.

Here are CR's numbers.

And CR only tested the Ecoboost and 5.0, not the regular V6. 3.31 gears (I'm betting that Ford sent something with a more aggressive final drive to Motor Trend; CR buys what is generally available off the lot.) The 5.0 was 3.55 gears. It didn't say what gears were on the Tundra. it was a TRD Offroad but I believe you can get 4.3 or 4.1 gears with that.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

Here are CR's numbers.

And CR only tested the Ecoboost and 5.0, not the regular V6. 3.31 gears (I'm betting that Ford sent something with a more aggressive final drive to Motor Trend; CR buys what is generally available off the lot.) The 5.0 was 3.55 gears. It didn't say what gears were on the Tundra. it was a TRD Offroad but I believe you can get 4.3 or 4.1 gears with that.

I have to throw out all this info because it has already been determined on this forum that Consumers Reports is not credible. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/92579-consumer-reports-no-longer-credible.html
Read any of the car magaazines and the ecoboost F150 is way faster than Consumers Report shows. Maybe it scared them when they hit the gas and left off it.

 

[Lolrax]

I have to throw out all this info because it has already been determined on this forum that Consumers Reports is not credible. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/92579-consumer-reports-no-longer-credible.html
Read any of the car magaazines and the ecoboost F150 is way faster than Consumers Report shows. Maybe it scared them when they hit the gas and left off it.

Any other site on the web including YouTube videos posted by owners confirms a 0-60 of about 6.1 or 6.2 for the ecoboost so that CR report is really wrong.

 

[Quentin]

Like I said, it probably has to do with gears. The gas mileage special Ecoboost doesn't accelerate as fast as the short geared one... you know, the one Ford pushed out to all the mags.

On second thought, a consumer reports conspiracy makes a lot more sense. The thing I don't understand is why they gave it the recommended title when they were so clearly cheating to make the numbers look worse for the F-150. A lot of hard work for nothing, I guess. I mean, look at the evidence: youtube videos with their perfectly calibrated equipment (iphone camera and speedo that is always right on the dot.) why CR is slumming it with a standard test and speed measuring equipment.

:facepalm:

 

[Lolrax]

Like I said, it probably has to do with gears. The gas mileage special Ecoboost doesn't accelerate as fast as the short geared one... you know, the one Ford pushed out to all the mags.

On second thought, a consumer reports conspiracy makes a lot more sense. The thing I don't understand is why they gave it the recommended title when they were so clearly cheating to make the numbers look worse for the F-150. A lot of hard work for nothing, I guess. I mean, look at the evidence: youtube videos with their perfectly calibrated equipment (iphone camera and speedo that is always right on the dot.) why CR is slumming it with a standard test and speed measuring equipment.

:facepalm:

LOL!!! Okay I get your drift on that, a CR conspiracy is less possible, and I see their numbers but.... if you were to bet your house and your savings account on a single drag race (implausible I know) and had to choose between a 5th gen T4R or an Ecoboost F-150, how much stock would you put in that chart? We all know the F-150 is faster and not too far off from an efficiency standpoint.

 

[Quentin]

Which final drive on the F150? lol

 

[Stifler]

LOL!!! Okay I get your drift on that, a CR conspiracy is less possible, and I see their numbers but.... if you were to bet your house and your savings account on a single drag race (implausible I know) and had to choose between a 5th gen T4R or an Ecoboost F-150, how much stock would you put in that chart? We all know the F-150 is faster and not too far off from an efficiency standpoint.

having owned both I would put my money on the F150 easily when it comes to power and efficiency.

 

[1engineer]

LOL!!! Okay I get your drift on that, a CR conspiracy is less possible, and I see their numbers but.... if you were to bet your house and your savings account on a single drag race (implausible I know) and had to choose between a 5th gen T4R or an Ecoboost F-150, how much stock would you put in that chart? We all know the F-150 is faster and not too far off from an efficiency standpoint.

Listen to Quintin. You do know I can take a 10 HP Honda engine and out pull a F-150....again if you let me select the gears :

 

[RandyDaytona]

Nice purchase!

As far as VW reliability, my wife has a 2005 Passat TDI and we've never had a problem with it (other than a busted skid plate when she ran over something).

German cars have come a long way. It seems there are people who have no issues and others who having nothing but problems with any vehicle. It just depends on how you drive, how you take care of it, etc.

Congrats on the new ride!

 

[WIT4R]

Nice purchase!

As far as VW reliability, my wife has a 2005 Passat TDI and we've never had a problem with it (other than a busted skid plate when she ran over something).

German cars have come a long way. It seems there are people who have no issues and others who having nothing but problems with any vehicle. It just depends on how you drive, how you take care of it, etc.

Congrats on the new ride!

Thanks. I spoke with a service guy at the VW dealer and they are noticing that VW is trying to simplify the cars.

My wife has a 2013 Passat TDI and that is what got me looking at the Touareg TDI. The Passat has been awesome to us, and the mileage we get is amazing (avg 42mpg in mixed city and highway) for a huge car. :bravo:

 

[SgnDen]

Hmmm, I'll bet there's a nice little forum for VW enthusiasts somewhere out there...

Just sayin.

:thumb3:

 

[tjnaples]

Hmmm, I'll bet there's a nice little forum for VW enthusiasts somewhere out there...

Just sayin.

:thumb3:

Word up and Bon voyage. And now back to the Toyota 4Runner Forum...

 

[WIT4R]

Word up and Bon voyage. And now back to the Toyota 4Runner Forum...

You guys are right, sorry didn't mean to get overly excited about the new ride.

Back to the 4runners! Have fun.:cheers:

 

[SgnDen]

You guys are right, sorry didn't mean to get overly excited about the new ride.

Back to the 4runners! Have fun.:cheers:

Hey, it's great to be in the company of others who are clearly interested in all thing vehicular!

I have truly loved a LOT about the 6 German cars I have owned in my lifetime.

From an unreal E60 550i, a couple of killer E28 535is's, a Roundie 2002, a beater Rabbit and and an over-the-top modded Super Beetle (needed three fire extinguishers in that thing at all times)...more to like than dislike for sure.

Have fun!!