Just Wondering...

toybox said:
The stickers for the V6 and V8 in CITY driving only reflect a 2 mpg difference. I don't believe you could get 5 mpg better than the V8 under any equal driving conditions IMO.

I never once got the mileage the sticker said
 
EDGE said:
It's hard to judge the amount of V8 or V6 engines being sold on just what a certain dealer sells, of the 3 dealers I know of 1 can't keep enough V8 loaded LTD in stock and the other 2 have to swap them from other dealers.

I think the V8 sell around 20-40% and the rest is V6, the V8 seems to be more popular then 1 might think.
Oh for sure, just thought I'd give an example of an area where V8's are quite popular...obviously our little dealer is no more than a drop in the bucket :)

I think the guesstimate of V8 Runner sales counting for 20 up to 40% of sales is safe....1 in 10 is too conservative
 
CVs4Runner said:
Who says that I didn't need a new 4Runner? I don't buy used...waste of money IMO. I think that saying there is a1-2 m/g difference is a little bit of a stretch. I would say more of a 5 m/g diff with all the in town driving that I do. I need a truck like the 4Runner for my life. I just know I don't need a V8 to accomplish my tasks. If you do, that is fine. I was just saying that I don't like the gas milage and wear on the car from being full time 4wd. CV
I don't think me saying 1 or 2 mpg difference is any more of a stretch than you saying you are worried about "extra wear" from full time 4wd lol

BTW, I was talking from EXPERIENCE of a 4wd V6 Ltd vs a 4wd V8 ltd....I've driven both extensively (many thousands of miles), on the same roads, same conditions, back to back, same fuel, same options, same accessories.....5 mpg difference is dreaming.

If you really want to get picky, I actually predict that if you drove the V6 around in full-time 4wd under the same conditions as the 8, it might even get slighty WORSE mileage.......
 
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EDGE said:
I never once got the mileage the sticker said

That is really besides the point. Because both V6 and V8 owners could say that. The one single point of tested reference is the sticker. Individual mileage varies I'm sure.
 
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chunderboy said:
Northof49

Just wondering why you think that it would get worse mpg?
chicken-egg, egg-chicken.
by driving v8, you have to prove it has more power over v6 for the size of engine. when you step on the gas paddle hard, the mpg drops.
 
EDGE said:
Your 4wd system has as much wear as any V8 AWD owner, a fulltime shift on the fly system like the part time V6 4Runners has all parts moving, the only thing you need to do is engage 4HI to get power to the front wheels.

They have changed them over the years but their still the same.

Overall maintenance and cost for the 4x4 system should be the same as the V8 models, the only thing you don't have is an added stress to the front end always being in drive.

If cost was really an issue a V6 camry would be better suited, it lacks all the 4x4 components

The part about the full time stuff...exactly. 2wd is less wear. I only use my 4WD for 3 months out of the year except for the time when I just run it to get it moving. But that is why I bought it. So are you saying that those people who live in florida and have only 2wd should have bought a camry b/c to have a 4runner is to have 4wd? Plus, in 2003 (when I bought my 4Runner) the V6 had more horse power than the V8. The V8 had more torque but that was worthless to me. I just feel that for the average american driver, a V6 is sufficient. Until recently the only thing on the market for an SUV was a V6 and those trucks managed fine. In the era of, "get it as big as you can get it," the V8 reigns...but for what reason...because you can get it? If you feel that you need it and want it that is fine. Just don't get down on we people who feel that the V6 is good enough.
CV
 
The V8 had a better tranmsission, now both are same.

Now the V8 simply has more power, the V6 has available part-time 4WD.


The V6 is a great engine, to new of a design for me. I like my updated dinosaur.
 
CVs4Runner said:
The part about the full time stuff...exactly. 2wd is less wear. I only use my 4WD for 3 months out of the year except for the time when I just run it to get it moving. But that is why I bought it. So are you saying that those people who live in florida and have only 2wd should have bought a camry b/c to have a 4runner is to have 4wd? Plus, in 2003 (when I bought my 4Runner) the V6 had more horse power than the V8. The V8 had more torque but that was worthless to me. I just feel that for the average american driver, a V6 is sufficient. Until recently the only thing on the market for an SUV was a V6 and those trucks managed fine. In the era of, "get it as big as you can get it," the V8 reigns...but for what reason...because you can get it? If you feel that you need it and want it that is fine. Just don't get down on we people who feel that the V6 is good enough.
CV

Wipe the snot off your face and cheer up:) you went from Im confident with my size to needing a towel in the steam room:arrow:

Like I said your 4x4 system has as much wear as the AWD, only difference is the front wheels are not engaged.

Now with the Floridians and in the south, please SUV and trucks are status symbols, SUV in 2wd are a joke for people who do nothing more with them then a car, then you got the guys who drive Super Duty pickups as their daily drivers and 2 days out of the week have to drive their civics cause they can't afford gas for their image mobile, it's sad but their cool 5 days out of the 7:)

Hey I bought my 03 to and I drove the V6 model, if you call 5 or 10 ponies more powerful then thats cool, I wanted the V8 cause of the V8 and torque, I already owned several V6 SUV and it was time to move up.

You seem to have lost your hard on for the V6, the V8 was offered so I as an American bought it, thats the freedom of choice, you seem to not like the guys who have them so why force me to buy less when I want more.
 
chunderboy said:
HOT DAMN THIS IS GETTIN' GOOD.

Gator greg,

Share the popcorn dude

Here ya go :corn: and here's something to wash it down :beer:

In all seriousness folks, while I love a good debate please remember to abide by the forum rules - I think we must have already closed down a half dozen of these V6 v. V8 debates when things start to get ugly :p
 
CVs4Runner said:

Oh wise one EDGE please explain to me how a truck driven only 3 months a year in 4WD has as much wear and tear on it as a truck that is driven 12 months in 4WD? I owned an all time 4WD before the runner and swore to never do it again. (Insert American freedom clause here.)


The front axles, CVs, and front diff still move, all the time.

The front diff is simply disconnected from the center diff.

Gone are the days of locking hubs - manual locking hubs and front diff.
 
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CVs4Runner said:


Oh wise one EDGE

thats what I like to hear, but can you say it again with a girlish type scream:) we each have our own opinions, we both have 4Runners, I have no problems with anyone on this board and Im not gonna start now, this could go on and on so in the words of chunderboy, Im efing ending it:D
 
The all-aluminum 4.0 liter V6 engine that produces 245 horsepower at 5,200 RPM and a healthy 282 lb.-ft. of torque at 3,800 RPM. Now if that is not enough power for all you Tim Allen fans, Toyota is also offering an optional 4.7 liter i-FORCE V8 engine (haw, haw, haw) which raises the torque to 320 lb. ft. Horsepower for the optional V8 on the other hand, is actually lower than the V6 at 235, but that peek horsepower comes in at a lower 4,800 RPM. The net effect of a larger engine producing power at a lower RPM is that real world performance seems more effortless with the engine seemingly loafing while you feel the surge of power pushing you back into the seat. Good enough for a 0 to 60 time of 7.9 seconds. The V6 had plenty of power but, unlike the V8, you can hear the engine working harder to deliver that power.
 
jonus4runner said:
The all-aluminum 4.0 liter V6 engine that produces 245 horsepower at 5,200 RPM and a healthy 282 lb.-ft. of torque at 3,800 RPM. Now if that is not enough power for all you Tim Allen fans, Toyota is also offering an optional 4.7 liter i-FORCE V8 engine (haw, haw, haw) which raises the torque to 320 lb. ft. Horsepower for the optional V8 on the other hand, is actually lower than the V6 at 235, but that peek horsepower comes in at a lower 4,800 RPM. The net effect of a larger engine producing power at a lower RPM is that real world performance seems more effortless with the engine seemingly loafing while you feel the surge of power pushing you back into the seat. Good enough for a 0 to 60 time of 7.9 seconds. The V6 had plenty of power but, unlike the V8, you can hear the engine working harder to deliver that power.

it's 270hp for 2005 and the 0-60 seems slow
 
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In all honesty, I don't know why you would want a V8 if you don't have any need for it. I mean if you have a big RV or boat I can see why it would be pragmatic to have such a thing. But honestly, why would you need a V8 if all you do is the daily commute and have a little fun on the weekends. You just end up burning more money on gas. I especially like the fact that I can drive my truck in 2WD. Oh well, to each his own.

from CVs 4Runner

Why would you want a V8 when you don't have a need for it, cause they make one. How many of us need 4WD for off roading,not many I'd bet,most Runners probably never see dirt just snow. So did you really need that great 4WD vehicle ? could have bought a Highlander and got 4WD but you didn't. You wanted the ruggedness and tough look of the Runner so thats why you buy the V8...wanted it all.
After saying all that ,I have a 2005 V6, guess I just didn't want it all but cost is a factor too. I made a hasty decision and now i am sorry...not because the V6 isn't good enough for most of my driving cause I love it. But I would like to haul an occasional car trailer not often but I just didn't consider that when I bought. That 7000# load would be just the ticket,car and trailerwould be fine but no good with the V6. I think a quicker resale with the V8 would be the case too. Mine is leased...oh well ,have to wait 3 years till next time. Who gives a dam about 1 mi/gal. The thing that sold me on the V6 was the VV-t and switchable 4WD. Didn't know the V8 had VV-t.
 
tkr128 said:
Sure, there are times when I wish I had the 8, just so I could say I had the 8. But, the 6 is perfectly fine for me, it has enough power for the way I drive it and getting 24mpg is amazing for an SUV especially when it's $2.85 for a gallon! :eek:

Man, everywhere you drive to must be downhill, cause you are the exception not the rule.
 

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