lets see them CB Antenna Mounts

So I'm new to the forums and am still figuring out how to use all the features the site has to offer, so my apologies if it's already been answered... but what rear bumper is this? I absolutely love it!

That's Adio3x his build can be found in the build stickies on the main 5th gen page.
 
So I'm new to the forums and am still figuring out how to use all the features the site has to offer, so my apologies if it's already been answered... but what rear bumper is this? I absolutely love it!

Thanks! It's a HeftyFab single sided swingout steel bumper. Was one of the first, I think the overall design is slightly different now. It's a great bumper, Chris does an awesome job!
 
Not sure why a simple trunk-lip NMO mount doesn't get more love on here.

Easy to install - slips over the edge of the hood with no drilling. Two allen bolts snug it up to the underside of the hood and provide the ground. Add a ground strap to get the best SWR, though you can run it without. Coax slides right through existing firewall grommets.

Cheap - around $20 including the coax and PL259.

Various antenna options - I use a Browning 1/4 wave base loaded model that is also fairly cheap at around $30, offers good tx / rx, and is nice and flexible for hitting brush and so forth. SWR is not superb because this is a very length specific antenna, so tuning it to get 1.1 on channel 1 gets me about 2.0 on channel 40.

Tram trunk lip black NMO mount (shown with a VHF antenna)

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Browning BR-140-B CB antenna

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Both are diamond K400 mounts. CB is a 3ft tuned Firestik, and the other is a Diamond dual band antenna for HAM.


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Have seen several posts on here where the antennae is mounted to the rear door. Seeing as the rear door is fiberglass, are you running a separate ground wire or something?
 
Not sure why a simple trunk-lip NMO mount doesn't get more love on here.

Easy to install - slips over the edge of the hood with no drilling. Two allen bolts snug it up to the underside of the hood and provide the ground. Add a ground strap to get the best SWR, though you can run it without. Coax slides right through existing firewall grommets.

Cheap - around $20 including the coax and PL259.

Various antenna options - I use a Browning 1/4 wave base loaded model that is also fairly cheap at around $30, offers good tx / rx, and is nice and flexible for hitting brush and so forth. SWR is not superb because this is a very length specific antenna, so tuning it to get 1.1 on channel 1 gets me about 2.0 on channel 40.

Tram trunk lip black NMO mount (shown with a VHF antenna)

DSC_0191-XL.jpg


Browning BR-140-B CB antenna

DSC_0198-XL.jpg
I was originally going to go that way but have been thinking of locating the antenna on the back of the rack when I install my mobile radio.

Why? Because with a lip mount on the hood, the antenna will be within about 3' of the passenger, with the windshield providing little to no RF protection. Crank the power up to 50 watts in the 2 meter band (144MHz - 148MHz) and that's inside the safe distance if you are transmitting for very long.

Am I being overcautious? Possibly, but moving the antenna to the back end of the rack increases the distance from passengers, moves the antenna up out of the same plane as the passengers, and clears it from interference from the cabin.

I haven't heard of anyone having problems locating their antenna on the back hatch or on the back of their rack causing problems with being too close to the unity (shark fin) antenna. (Anyone?)

Of course, there will be more worry about banging the antenna into low roofs.

AARL resources of RF exposure: http://www.arrl.org/rf-exposure

(Note: CB shouldn't be as much of a concern as HAM)

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Have seen several posts on here where the antennae is mounted to the rear door. Seeing as the rear door is fiberglass, are you running a separate ground wire or something?

Who said the rear door is fiberglass?

It’s sheet metal for sure. Stick a magnet to it. I run a grounding strap to my mount from the hatch shock bolt and I get great swr. If needed you can run another ground with the wire to the chassis if you don’t ewng to be on the hinge side for a ground
 
I was originally going to go that way but have been thinking of locating the antenna on the back of the rack when I install my mobile radio.

Why? Because with a lip mount on the hood, the antenna will be within about 3' of the passenger, with the windshield providing little to no RF protection. Crank the power up to 50 watts in the 2 meter band (144MHz - 148MHz) and that's inside the safe distance if you are transmitting for very long.

Am I being overcautious? Possibly, but moving the antenna to the back end of the rack increases the distance from passengers, moves the antenna up out of the same plane as the passengers, and clears it from interference from the cabin.

I haven't heard of anyone having problems locating their antenna on the back hatch or on the back of their rack causing problems with being too close to the unity (shark fin) antenna. (Anyone?)

Of course, there will be more worry about banging the antenna into low roofs.

AARL resources of RF exposure: RF Exposure

(Note: CB shouldn't be as much of a concern as HAM)

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Eh, ya gotta die of something.
 
Originally Posted by IslandJim
"Have seen several posts on here where the antennae is mounted to the rear door. Seeing as the rear door is fiberglass, are you running a separate ground wire or something?"

The reason I ran a ground strap was because hinges are notoriously poor at carrying RF ground to the rear hatch.
 
I was originally going to go that way but have been thinking of locating the antenna on the back of the rack when I install my mobile radio.

Why? Because with a lip mount on the hood, the antenna will be within about 3' of the passenger, with the windshield providing little to no RF protection. Crank the power up to 50 watts in the 2 meter band (144MHz - 148MHz) and that's inside the safe distance if you are transmitting for very long.

Am I being overcautious? Possibly, but moving the antenna to the back end of the rack increases the distance from passengers, moves the antenna up out of the same plane as the passengers, and clears it from interference from the cabin.

I haven't heard of anyone having problems locating their antenna on the back hatch or on the back of their rack causing problems with being too close to the unity (shark fin) antenna. (Anyone?)

Of course, there will be more worry about banging the antenna into low roofs.

AARL resources of RF exposure: RF Exposure

(Note: CB shouldn't be as much of a concern as HAM)

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unless you are constantly broadcasting your duty cycle will be sufficient for safe operation. in my setup with a unity 2m antenna (let's make a conservative assumption of 2.1 dBi), at 3' I'm under 2mW/cm^2 so as long as I'm transmitting for less than 3 minutes every 6 minutes the passenger is fine.

(and does our windshield really not have any IR/UV filtering? if so that will attenuate the RF energy)
 
Who said the rear door is fiberglass?

It’s sheet metal for sure. Stick a magnet to it. I run a grounding strap to my mount from the hatch shock bolt and I get great swr. If needed you can run another ground with the wire to the chassis if you don’t ewng to be on the hinge side for a ground

My bad. Only tapped on the door a couple of times and it sounded quite different from the sound of the quarter panel.

My old Bronco II's rear hatch was fiberglass and figured this was the same.
 
I just finished mine up yesterday. My 70cm/2m antenna is mounted to my CBI rear bumper swing out on an L bracket from Home Depot. And yes, I did use a separate grounding wire to get to the vehicle ground because I didn't want to remove any powder coat from my nice bumper.

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For RF grounding you'll want a braided strap, the RF is on the surface so you want to maximize surface area
 
That looks awesome, where did you feed your coax cable through? I've been debating doing the same one but want to plan before I start drilling holes

Thanks! So far, coax is zip tied back up through the bottom of the mount & into the bottom of the hatch & under the carpet. I was worried about water getting in but after a wash it's still bone dry back there.

I plan on feeding the coax through the tail light in the future & seeing how that may work out.

I did have to drill another hole for my ground wire, as I ended up running a wire directly from my mount itself to the frame down below. Just used a dremel to take off some of the powder coating in the rear of the mount & ran a wire through the bumper to the frame.

I wouldn't see any reason to drill another hole for the coax itself though.
 
these on the rear tire swing outs seem like perfect candidates for ground plane adapters, the little things with the wires sticking out or discs under the antenna

example:
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even if you grind away powder coating, i can't imagine a rear bumper making a very good ground plane.
 
these on the rear tire swing outs seem like perfect candidates for ground plane adapters, the little things with the wires sticking out or discs under the antenna



example:

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even if you grind away powder coating, i can't imagine a rear bumper making a very good ground plane.



That looks like that would hurt at eye level...
 

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