Lubricating propeller shafts

Both the Chilton and Haynes manuals for the 4th gen 4Runner say that you should keep pumping grease into the slip yokes until you see it begin to come out of the seal.

That's exactly what I've been doing for the seven years that I've owned my 4Runner and I've never had a problem. I grease the slip yokes and u-joints every other oil change and I've never once experienced the driveline clunk people talk about. So I guess I must be doing something right.
 
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This is awesomely helpful info! I put maybe 25 pumps in each of the front and the rear slide yoke zerks, and still have the thump, though I don't think it is quite as pronounced as before. Now I'm going back under there and really getting after it.
 
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A little more info related to this topic that I found very interesting/informative. I posted this a few days ago in the warranty forum, intended to post it here. The info below is from a Tundra forum, but the problem appears to be common among Toyota vehicles:

"On the vast majority of Tundras that experience the thump or bump in the rear when you come to an abrupt stop, it is due to binding in the driveshaft slip yoke. When you come to an abrupt stop, the rear of the truck rises up and elongates the driveshaft (via the slip yoke) in the process. Once you come to a stop, the back of the truck settles back down and the driveshaft compresses. If the truck is in gear, there will be some rotational torque applied to the driveshaft even when stopped. This rotational torque tends to increase the sliding friction in the slip yoke. If the slip yoke is not really well lubricated or the machining is not perfect, the slip yoke will tend to bind up and not compress. Then after you come to a stop, the transmission will downshift. During the downshift, the torque on the driveshaft is released which reduces the friction in the slip yoke and it will compress rather abruptly. This is the "thump" or "bump in the rear" that you are likely feeling. As a test to comfirm, shift the transmission to nuetral before coming to an abrupt stop. If you don't get the "thump" when you do this, but you do get it when the transmission is in drive, then it is very likely binding in the slip yoke.

Ok, now that you have determined that it is binding in the slip yoke, you can either fix it yourself or convince your dealer to do it. Dealers don't make much money on warranty repairs unless parts are replaced, so they often may opt to replace the entire driveshaft assembly, which is fine as long as they hand lube the slip yoke with some good quality grease. But replacement of the driveshaft is typically not necessary. The slip yoke just needs to be greased properly, particulary on the 4x4s. 4x4s have the slip yoke at the back of the driveshaft where it connects to the rear end pinion shaft. The 4x4 driveshaft uses 4-bolt flanges at the rear end as well as at the transfer case output shaft. The 4x2 on the other hand has the slip yoke in the tailshaft of the transmission and as far as I know (I have a 4x4) is lubricated by the transmission fluid. I have heard of 4x2s with the thump, but most problems are with the 4x4s. The 4x2s may benefit from had greasing the slip yoke splines, but I have not confirmed this.

The 4x4 driveshaft slip yoke has a zerk fitting for adding grease; however, it is not very effective at getting grease at the point where the friction is taking place. There is a large void under the zerk fitting and it may take 30-40 pumps on a grease gun to actually get any grease on the splines, depending on how much if any grease was in there to begin with. The splines and seal are very tight and you may encounter significant resistance on the grease gun while grease is migrating along the splines. I've had my driveshaft apart examining the slip yoke and you have two options to properly grease the splines. One is to drop the rear driveshaft where it attaches to the rear end via the 4 bolts (always match-mark the two flanges to ensure you put them back in the same position - also, turn the bolts, not the nuts since the nuts have a high friction base flange to resist turning) and pull the slip yoke apart (again, match mark both halves of the slip yoke to ensure they go back together in the same relative position - the splines do have a wide spline to prevent mismatch; however, it is hard to see which one it is especially with grease on them and it's a pain trying to find just the right spot where they will slip together - match-marking the two halves before disassembly makes this much easier). Once the slip yoke is apart is then readily apparent why putting 5 or 10 shots of grease in the zerk fitting won't do any good. You can then hand lube the splines with a good quality grease. I would clean out as much of the existing grease as possible, but as long as you use a lithum base grease there should be no compatibility problems. Toyota recommends a lithium base NLGI#2 chassis grease for this. I recommend a lithium base molybdenum disulfide (moly) NLGI#2 chassis grease for this, the same grease that Toyota recommends for the double cardon joint. Once you've got everything greased up good, slide the yoke halves back together using the match marks to guide you then put the both flanges together, again using the match marks as a guide, install the bolts and nuts and torque. I think the torque is about 40 ft-lbs, but I don't have my manual handy at the moment. Torque from the bolt head, not the nut since the nut has a high friction base. After it is all together, shoot about 5-10 strokes of grease in the zerk fitting for "reserve", but you do not want it completely full as this will limit compression of the slip yoke.

If all that is a little more than you want to tackle, here is an easier way that is probably just about as effective. Take your grease gun loaded with lithum base moly chassis grease and start pumping grease in the slip yoke zerk fitting. At some point you will encounter significant resistance on the grease gun handle and will likely note that the slip yoke is expanding. Slowly add grease at this point. You will likely see the slip yoke expand on each pump of the handle and then slowly contract. Continue adding grease for about 5-10 more strokes unless you see grease coming around the seal, then stop. Now get on the rear bumper and bounce it up and down a few times. This will tend to compress the slip yoke and force more grease along the splines. Now take a wrench and remove the zerk fitting to allow excess grease to escape. Once the zerk is removed, if a tablespoon or so of grease doesn't come out, then gently bounce on the bumper again to give it a little help. Once the excess grease is out, re-install the zerk, clean up the mess, and you are good to go.

This was known as the "arkie6 fix" over at Tundrasolutions and it resolved many of the "thump" problems people were experiencing, mine included. I initially used the straight lithum base chassis grease on the slip yoke and I started getting a hint of "thump" after about 5,000 miles. I subsequently put in the lithium base moly (an extreme pressure additive) grease and haven't had any hint of "thump" in 15,000+ miles. My truck (2000 Tundra 4x4) now has 28,000+ miles and is "thump" free. "
WOW,Thanks for the info.
 
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Lubed the drive shafts again a few days ago. This time I pumped all the way through expansion until seepage around seal.

Slipyoke1.jpg~original


Was going to do the jumping on the bumper thing but after I dropped the vehicle off the stands, the yoke seal looked like the pic with a big dollop of grease on the floor as well. Now I know the grease can easily escape so this is how I will grease the slip yokes from now on.

Slipyoke2.jpg~original
I like many others on the forum have been using the MOBIL 1 pink stuff for everything,is this wrong or will it hurt in any way.What brand do you use.
 
I just pump some grease in every fitting every 10k and forget about all of the technical part of grease pumping. 41,000 miles and quiet as a mouse. :biggrin2: Plus I just use the Valvoline Synblend grease...it is what my dealer uses.
 
I like many others on the forum have been using the MOBIL 1 pink stuff for everything,is this wrong or will it hurt in any way.What brand do you use.

I've been using Valvoline Durablend mostly because of availability. I'm sure the Mobil 1 pink is great stuff.
 
do i have to HAVE to jack my truck up to do this?

seems like if it takes 80-90 pumps and the shaft is going to start wiggling around as soon as i start going down the road, the grease will end up getting in all the little places where it needs to go anyways. am i wrong?
 
This is a related question to the slip yokes, and this is an active thread on the subject, so here is my question. I bought my T4R a few months ago, and I just recently lubricated all 6 zerks in the drivetrain at 48K, and I don't know for sure, but I suspect that these might have never been lubricated since new.

Anyway, when lubricating the regular U-joints, I just pumped in grease until the old grease just started to seep out around the joint seals. But I'm wondering, should I pump in more new grease and force more of the old grease out, and also thereby perhaps get better saturation of the little roller bearings in the U-joints?
 
Very useful information... but I must watch The Office too much because I've wanted to say "that's what she said" about 100 times reading this thread... hahaha.

Anyway, good posts!
 
do i have to HAVE to jack my truck up to do this?

seems like if it takes 80-90 pumps and the shaft is going to start wiggling around as soon as i start going down the road, the grease will end up getting in all the little places where it needs to go anyways. am i wrong?
One, it depends on whether or not you can fit under the truck without them, I know I can't. :D

Also, if the zerk fittings are not in the right position, you will have to rotate the drive shafts to get to them, which is much easier if the vehicle (wheels) are off the ground.
 
One, it depends on whether or not you can fit under the truck without them, I know I can't. :D

Also, if the zerk fittings are not in the right position, you will have to rotate the drive shafts to get to them, which is much easier if the vehicle (wheels) are off the ground.

That's true, but you can turn the front driveshaft with your hand on the V6 4Runners as long as you're in 2HI. And if you have a grease gun with a flexible rubber hose on it, you can always manage to reach the zerk fittings even if they're not pointing in a convenient direction.
 
That's true, but you can turn the front driveshaft with your hand on the V6 4Runners as long as you're in 2HI. And if you have a grease gun with a flexible rubber hose on it, you can always manage to reach the zerk fittings even if they're not pointing in a convenient direction.

I have seen zerks in the center of u-joints that can't be accessed in certain positions because of the bend in the joint. Rotating the drive shaft so the zerk is exposed on the 'open' side of the bend is sometimes the only way to get head of grease gun tube to fit into opening.
 
I have seen zerks in the center of u-joints that can't be accessed in certain positions because of the bend in the joint. Rotating the drive shaft so the zerk is exposed on the 'open' side of the bend is sometimes the only way to get head of grease gun tube to fit into opening.

All I can say is that I've had the zerks on my 4Runner's rear driveshaft pointing straight up and I'm still able to reach them because the flexible rubber hose on my grease gun can easily loop up and around without any problems.
 
All I can say is that I've had the zerks on my 4Runner's rear driveshaft pointing straight up and I'm still able to reach them because the flexible rubber hose on my grease gun can easily loop up and around without any problems.

Not questioning the ability of the flexible hose to make a bend to reach difficult areas. The issue is the head that fits on the zerk fitting, in some cases when the joint is bent, there may not be enough clearance for it to reach inside to clip onto the zerk. If a lift kit has been installed on the vehicle, this will further increase the angles between the driveshaft and the transfer/trans/differential flanges. By rotating the joint so the zerk is facing to the outside of the u-joint/driveshaft angle, it will fit better. If yours works without moving it, good for you.
 
Not questioning the ability of the flexible hose to make a bend to reach difficult areas. The issue is the head that fits on the zerk fitting, in some cases when the joint is bent, there may not be enough clearance for it to reach inside to clip onto the zerk. If a lift kit has been installed on the vehicle, this will further increase the angles between the driveshaft and the transfer/trans/differential flanges. By rotating the joint so the zerk is facing to the outside of the u-joint/driveshaft angle, it will fit better. If yours works without moving it, good for you.

Gotcha. The head on my grease gun is just a standard size, so it fits without any problem.
 
I've got a better question...what kind of 'lithium' grease should I use. Does it need to be white, black, have the color of applesauce? My '97 I bought a few weeks ago came with the original owner's manual and states what kind to use, but not color.

I was asked whether or not I should be using high temperature grease by a civilian tech at. Fort Eustis, Virginia today at the auto craft shop (a do-it-yourself with mechanic guidance type-of-place)...and I did not know if I was using the right stuff. The tech said I might need to come back in a couple thousand miles to do it again with the right stuff. The high temp. grease apparently is red in color. I used the applesauce-colored one this evening.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
I've got a better question...what kind of 'lithium' grease should I use. Does it need to be white, black, have the color of applesauce? My '97 I bought a few weeks ago came with the original owner's manual and states what kind to use, but not color.

I was asked whether or not I should be using high temperature grease by a civilian tech at. Fort Eustis, Virginia today at the auto craft shop (a do-it-yourself with mechanic guidance type-of-place)...and I did not know if I was using the right stuff. The tech said I might need to come back in a couple thousand miles to do it again with the right stuff. The high temp. grease apparently is red in color. I used the applesauce-colored one this evening.

Any help would be appreciated.

You definitely don't need hi-temp grease in there. You do need grease designed to work well in cold temps. I'd just follow the recommendation in the manual and not worry too much about color.
 
I was wondering what that thump was.........like mama says..."the shaft needs lubrication..." :frisky: great info!:iagree:
 

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