KidVermicious
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What grease are you using instead?
my slow build/wheeling/everything thread.
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nevada
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oh, i totally forgot.
it free spools very nice now. it wasn't mounted to anything, just sitting on the bench, i held it in place with one hand, and pulled off a few feet with the other. it worked well, even with the liberal amount grease i used.
also another thing, the 4mm screws are SS. not sure to what grade, but they are non magnetic.
it free spools very nice now. it wasn't mounted to anything, just sitting on the bench, i held it in place with one hand, and pulled off a few feet with the other. it worked well, even with the liberal amount grease i used.
also another thing, the 4mm screws are SS. not sure to what grade, but they are non magnetic.
nevada
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KidVermicious
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Yup, I missed it. Thanks. 
nevada
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oh yes,
the reason it didn't free spool, is because that outer gear was essentially glued to the case with the thick nasty grease.
the lever was functioning correctly, the grease just wouldn't let it spin freely.
which goes to show how little pressure is required to lock it in gear.
the reason it didn't free spool, is because that outer gear was essentially glued to the case with the thick nasty grease.
the lever was functioning correctly, the grease just wouldn't let it spin freely.
which goes to show how little pressure is required to lock it in gear.
nevada
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oh, I also forgot to mention why free spool is so important on winches with this style of brake, which from what I could tell is MOST of them.
its an automatic, ONE-WAY brake. its designed to hold up to 50% of the winch rating. ONLY in reverse.
every time you power the winch OUT, you are working against the brake, and wearing it out.
its an automatic, ONE-WAY brake. its designed to hold up to 50% of the winch rating. ONLY in reverse.
every time you power the winch OUT, you are working against the brake, and wearing it out.
nevada
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I pulled the 10.5 apart yesterday, it has the same sticky glue/grease.
altho it did free spool decently, I cleaned and regreased it.
the end cap was really stuck on there good. I had to drive a razor blade down in behind the gasket to get it to break free.
the large planetary gear set in this one was probably 75% larger than in the 8.5. the middle one may have been a bit bigger, and I think the smallest one was the same size/part.
beefy. all the gears spun easily.
along with the outer/small planetary, they also shared the same inner gear, and driveline. as best I could tell, they were the same part, I didn't measure anything and im too lazy to look up the part numbers to confirm.
a few things to note on this one,
the free spool feature. it uses a sliding collar. I don't like it. it doesn't seem as positive, or as easily switched as the other one.
its working nice and smooth there, but later, when I turned the drum a bit, it didn't engage as easily. it may end up being just fine as I actually use it.
also the lever itself is a bit floppy. I may try to replace the set screw with a larger one, to see if that tightens it up a bit. there is an o-ring on it, to keep crud out, but the lever is so sloppy, it doesn't really touch.
a bad cast. its in an area that shouldnt cause any issues. I expect I just got unlucky with this one, I doubt many/all are like that.
the above 2 issues are things I wouldn't expect to find on a more expensive winch tho.
and lastly, once I got the end cap cleaned up, I noticed this.
interesting. id read rumors about them being the same. pretty sure the box says "made in china" but t-max is an Australian company...
altho it did free spool decently, I cleaned and regreased it.
the end cap was really stuck on there good. I had to drive a razor blade down in behind the gasket to get it to break free.
the large planetary gear set in this one was probably 75% larger than in the 8.5. the middle one may have been a bit bigger, and I think the smallest one was the same size/part.
beefy. all the gears spun easily.
along with the outer/small planetary, they also shared the same inner gear, and driveline. as best I could tell, they were the same part, I didn't measure anything and im too lazy to look up the part numbers to confirm.
a few things to note on this one,
the free spool feature. it uses a sliding collar. I don't like it. it doesn't seem as positive, or as easily switched as the other one.
its working nice and smooth there, but later, when I turned the drum a bit, it didn't engage as easily. it may end up being just fine as I actually use it.
also the lever itself is a bit floppy. I may try to replace the set screw with a larger one, to see if that tightens it up a bit. there is an o-ring on it, to keep crud out, but the lever is so sloppy, it doesn't really touch.
a bad cast. its in an area that shouldnt cause any issues. I expect I just got unlucky with this one, I doubt many/all are like that.
the above 2 issues are things I wouldn't expect to find on a more expensive winch tho.
and lastly, once I got the end cap cleaned up, I noticed this.
interesting. id read rumors about them being the same. pretty sure the box says "made in china" but t-max is an Australian company...
nevada
Senior Member
ahahaha. I found the specs for my old MM winch.
Mile Marker e8000 Electric Winch
2hp motor and 13fpm line speed.:rofl:
that's just sad. oh, and free spool didn't work on it either. lol. we had to power it out every time. I guess that explains why our trips were so long. we were still winching. haha.
Mile Marker e8000 Electric Winch
2hp motor and 13fpm line speed.:rofl:
that's just sad. oh, and free spool didn't work on it either. lol. we had to power it out every time. I guess that explains why our trips were so long. we were still winching. haha.
nevada
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oh yeh, I mounted the new 10.5 winch for that trip. we ended up using it quite a bit, but no really bad stucks. but it worked well.
the thing I noticed tho, was how quiet it was. im sure its because of the good grease. sitting in the cab, with my buddy winding it back on the drum, I couldn't even tell the winch was running.
I wired a switch out on the front, so whoever is working the cable, can power the winch, so I literally didn't know the winch was running.
id like to make note, that is one of my favorite mods. I have the same switch inside the cab. have had for years, but the one out front is new, and its SO NICE.
I may never use the remote again.
the thing I noticed tho, was how quiet it was. im sure its because of the good grease. sitting in the cab, with my buddy winding it back on the drum, I couldn't even tell the winch was running.
I wired a switch out on the front, so whoever is working the cable, can power the winch, so I literally didn't know the winch was running.
id like to make note, that is one of my favorite mods. I have the same switch inside the cab. have had for years, but the one out front is new, and its SO NICE.
I may never use the remote again.
KidVermicious
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I don't get to wheel in snow that deep. Our mountains are too steep. 
nevada
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yes, at times, we would only get 20' at a time.
that sucks.I don't get to wheel in snow that deep. Our mountains are too steep.
there will be about 2 feet more snow this Saturday when we go. not sure how far up the road we'll be able to get...
Nuked Beaver
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Where?
Where are you headed this weekend for that level of snow? The cascades or Olympics? Evans creek?
Where are you headed this weekend for that level of snow? The cascades or Olympics? Evans creek?
nevada
Senior Member
I guess it would be the cascades. the nile/cliffdell area.
its just a county road, but they turn into trails once the snow gets deep
Dinardy
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Not sure Evans is open yet, though if you take a left at the fork after the sketchy bridge and head towards the Snoqualmie Federation Forrest you may hit some.
