Nitto Ridge Grappler?

[479NWA5thGEN]

Is anyone running the 285/70/17 SL RGs?

I'm thinking about this as they are lighter than the 265s. I'm currently running 1.75" up front and 1" rear. It looks like I'll have enough clearance turning but just wondering if anyone is running the same.

Cheers,

 

[Decipher]

DenverTiger504 just started running 285 SLs, coming from Falken Wildpeak AT3W in load range E. Hopefully he’ll jump in here and share his thoughts.

As far as fitment, I’m confident you won’t have an issue based on the amount of room I have with my 285s at 2.5/1.5 lift.


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[DallasStarsFan]

Spent most of the morning on this post and others now I am looking for opinions.

Currently running KO2's in 275/70/17 load Range E. No complaints but they need replaced. So I am looking at these RG's 285/70/17 load range C or SL.

Question is, I like the truck like ride and want to know if going to C or even SL in this tire is going to make it feel squishy? Leaning towards the C but curious how about the SL. Off road capabilities is not a concern as I only have to deal with pig snot and white rock farm roads.

 

[BazookaJeff]

Spent most of the morning on this post and others now I am looking for opinions.



Currently running KO2's in 275/70/17 load Range E. No complaints but they need replaced. So I am looking at these RG's 285/70/17 load range C or SL.



Question is, I like the truck like ride and want to know if going to C or even SL in this tire is going to make it feel squishy? Leaning towards the C but curious how about the SL. Off road capabilities is not a concern as I only have to deal with pig snot and white rock farm roads.

Have the C’s and 32psi felt squishy, 38psi did not.


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[DenverTiger504]

Is anyone running the 285/70/17 SL RGs?

I'm thinking about this as they are lighter than the 265s. I'm currently running 1.75" up front and 1" rear. It looks like I'll have enough clearance turning but just wondering if anyone is running the same.

Cheers,

The 285/70/17 Ridge Grapplers SL does not rub with 2.75” front and 1” rear at full lock with stock UCAs. I had previously removed the front mud flaps and did the fender mod. The SL version is a “lighter” 285 at 49lbs but still anticipate a MPG loss in the city due to thread pattern. I haven’t had a chance to off-road them yet but anticipate they will do fine. I think you will be okay with 1.75” in the front - I would be prepared to do the fender mod and take off the front flaps.

 

[Decipher]

Spent most of the morning on this post and others now I am looking for opinions.



Currently running KO2's in 275/70/17 load Range E. No complaints but they need replaced. So I am looking at these RG's 285/70/17 load range C or SL.



Question is, I like the truck like ride and want to know if going to C or even SL in this tire is going to make it feel squishy? Leaning towards the C but curious how about the SL. Off road capabilities is not a concern as I only have to deal with pig snot and white rock farm roads.

Load range C is made for our rigs. I’ve said it no less than a million times because it’s true. E is complete overkill for us. C hits the sweet spot of ruggedness and ride compliance. My RGs were set to 34 and they were way too soft in C. I bumped them up to 36-38 and it did make a good difference. For your use, SL would be a nice ride with good weight savings. These are way heavier than the KO2. Add in rolling resistance and you’ll see a big drop in MPGs. I went from about 17 to 13.5. I did this coming from C KO2s to RGs C.

FWIW, I ultimately landed in Falken Wildpeaks AT3W in SL and find them just as capable as the RGs, lighter and cheaper. It’s a better ride all around, actually come with a great mileage warranty (55k vs no warranty by Nitto), and have been absolutely impressive off road. Give them a look if you haven’t. I’ve used both and landed in those.

To answer your question though, if you want to maintain a “truck” feel then go C. SLs might feel too prius?


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[DallasStarsFan]

Load range C is made for our rigs. I’ve said it no less than a million times because it’s true. E is complete overkill for us. C hits the sweet spot of ruggedness and ride compliance. My RGs were set to 34 and they were way too soft in C. I bumped them up to 36-38 and it did make a good difference. For your use, SL would be a nice ride with good weight savings. These are way heavier than the KO2. Add in rolling resistance and you’ll see a big drop in MPGs. I went from about 17 to 13.5. I did this coming from C KO2s to RGs C.

FWIW, I ultimately landed in Falken Wildpeaks AT3W in SL and find them just as capable as the RGs, lighter and cheaper. It’s a better ride all around, actually come with a great mileage warranty (55k vs no warranty by Nitto), and have been absolutely impressive off road. Give them a look if you haven’t. I’ve used both and landed in those.

To answer your question though, if you want to maintain a “truck” feel then go C. SLs might feel too prius?


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Thanks for the opinion. My current set was E because that was all that was available at that time.

When your MPG dropped was everything else the same but just changed the tire?

I have been looking at the Wildpeaks but the price has gone up a lot. They actually cost more than the KO2 and RG's around me.

 

[MAST4R]

Load range C is made for our rigs. k

Thanks for the opinion. My current set was E because that was all that was available at that time.

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Yeah, it is crazy that C-load tires are rare in popular 4Runner and Wrangler sizes.

That's why I was intrigued when I "discovered" all the C-load options in 255 75 17.

[MENTION=134129]DallasStarsFan[/MENTION] , [MENTION=140439]Decipher[/MENTION] has really nailed the KO2/Wildpeak/Ridge Grappler comparisons, he has had all three (and two sizes of Wildpeaks) and he goes offroad often.

I personally find the Wildpeak better performing than KO2 in all conditions though I trust the sidewalls of D/E load KO2s over those of 2-ply sidewall tires in any rating.

In terms of wear, my Ko2 and Wildpeaks had completely different initial wear (very slow vs very fast) but were even by around 16,000 miles. We do a lot of offroad and a lot of interstate and I stick with the SL Wildpeaks. I do pay extra attention on sharp granite though.

 

[Swipter]

Yeah, it is crazy that C-load tires are rare in popular 4Runner and Wrangler sizes.

That's why I was intrigued when I "discovered" all the C-load options in 255 75 17.

[MENTION=134129]DallasStarsFan[/MENTION] , [MENTION=140439]Decipher[/MENTION] has really nailed the KO2/Wildpeak/Ridge Grappler comparisons, he has had all three (and two sizes of Wildpeaks) and he goes offroad often.

I personally find the Wildpeak better performing than KO2 in all conditions though I trust the sidewalls of D/E load KO2s over those of 2-ply sidewall tires in any rating.

In terms of wear, my Ko2 and Wildpeaks had completely different initial wear (very slow vs very fast) but were even by around 16,000 miles. We do a lot of offroad and a lot of interstate and I stick with the SL Wildpeaks. I do pay extra attention on sharp granite though.

What is your air down for the wildpeaks?

 

[Decipher]

Thanks for the opinion. My current set was E because that was all that was available at that time.



When your MPG dropped was everything else the same but just changed the tire?



I have been looking at the Wildpeaks but the price has gone up a lot. They actually cost more than the KO2 and RG's around me.

My MPGs dropped with the tires alone. Everything else was the exact same. I’ve concluded it has everything to do with the extra weight, increased wind drag with the larger gaps in tread, and rolling resistance. I was shocked it was so drastic. Went right back up with the Falkens which tells me it was the tire.

If you or anyone is seriously looking at the Wildpeaks, I grabbed a screenshot randomly from discount tire direct when I was comparing before the price jump. I asked them to match the previous price and they did. The grab is for SL in 285/70-17. Check the AT3W posts so I don’t take this one too far off track.


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[Decipher]

What is your air down for the wildpeaks?

I air my SL 285/70s down to 28 off road. There was a good post by a Falken rep suggesting not to go below 20-25.


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[DallasStarsFan]

Not sure how to do the @name here but thank you for the info Decipher. Great info about all three that were on my short list.

 

[Decipher]

Please PM me if you want more info or read up in the Falken thread. I’ve posted a ton of my thoughts there. I’ve been busy but I plan on writing a comparison review on the KO2 vs RG vs Wildpeaks. It’ll be a good guide since those are the hot three right now. It’s my pleasure and good luck!!!


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[479NWA5thGEN]

The 285/70/17 Ridge Grapplers SL does not rub with 2.75” front and 1” rear at full lock with stock UCAs. I had previously removed the front mud flaps and did the fender mod. The SL version is a “lighter” 285 at 49lbs but still anticipate a MPG loss in the city due to thread pattern. I haven’t had a chance to off-road them yet but anticipate they will do fine. I think you will be okay with 1.75” in the front - I would be prepared to do the fender mod and take off the front flaps.

Thanks [MENTION=322210]DenverTiger504[/MENTION] I've got no issues cutting some plastic and removing the flaps! The best part for me is I don't have to drive far for work.

 

[MAST4R]

News: no more LTC in 265 70 17. Instead, there is now a choice of SL or E load.

When I was originally choosing, the RG in LTC and the Wildpeaks in SL were the finalists, the latter winning on weight and price.

The Wildpeaks perform extremely well on and offroad and are cheap. However, they lose their first 2/32nds in no time which means that around 10,000 miles one is already at 10/32 and under.

What is the case with SL Ridge Grapplers? Both are said to start at 14/32 but Wildpeaks are really 13/32 new. How about RG?

Has anyone tracked wear precisely?

My Ko2s wore evenly at about 4,000 miles per 1/32. Maybe started slowly and then accelerated wear, but on the whole quite even. The Wildpeaks have been anything but, all 6 of them. They all lost 2/32nds in just 4,000 miles and 3/32nds total in 10,000 miles. So, wear improves as they go. Now my oldest two are at 25,300 and average 4,000 miles per 1/32 like the KO2s BUT the best tread disappeared quickly which is what bugs me. Basically, everything above 10,000 miles is spent under 10/32s.

What is the case of the Ridge Grapplers? Hope I am not the only one measuring wear all the time

 

[Signal]

So I tried to read through this whole thread. I really like these tires but I like the General grabbers X3's and the Falken Wildpeak M/T's also. Is there a reason why you went with the Nittos over other tires. I am having front end issues with my 4Runner, It spends every Thursday and Friday at the dealer. I have a lift in the gerage but I am waiting to see what happens with it, but tires are next. I like the thouight that some people say that there is no rubbing with the 285 75 17's.

 

[comtn4x4]

So I tried to read through this whole thread. I really like these tires but I like the General grabbers X3's and the Falken Wildpeak M/T's also. Is there a reason why you went with the Nittos over other tires. I am having front end issues with my 4Runner, It spends every Thursday and Friday at the dealer. I have a lift in the gerage but I am waiting to see what happens with it, but tires are next. I like the thouight that some people say that there is no rubbing with the 285 75 17's.

I wouldn't exactly say no rubbing with 285/75's... More like no rubbing after a extreme BMC, some serious fender well trimming and running almost 5 degrees caster which is a lot easier with a high clearance front bumper. That being said every 4Runner is different so maybe for others it was slightly different. And I suppose if you never wheel it you won't have much rubbing either.

As far as why the RG over the X3's and Wildpeak M/T's well first off those are MT's and the RG is an aggressive AT tire. For me I just don't need a MT so the RG is a good medium for me. Good road manners and the softer compound makes it very good in snow and ice. Moderate siping also helps with ice and wet conditions. Road noise isn't bad through 45,000 miles, really no noticeable increase from new. Longevity is better than I expected also. At 30,000 I would have said they were going to be gone soon, however, they have lasted well to 45,000 as I said and will come off in 2 weeks to be replaced with another set. Trail manners have been great in Colorado, Utah and New Mexico conditions. I regularly air down to 14-18 psi with no issues. I don't hit any real mud often but once a year I end up in Missouri and they have preformed well, although I'd run a MT if I wheeled there often.

 

[Cloudrnnr]

The 285/70/17 Ridge Grapplers SL does not rub with 2.75” front and 1” rear at full lock with stock UCAs. I had previously removed the front mud flaps and did the fender mod. The SL version is a “lighter” 285 at 49lbs but still anticipate a MPG loss in the city due to thread pattern. I haven’t had a chance to off-road them yet but anticipate they will do fine. I think you will be okay with 1.75” in the front - I would be prepared to do the fender mod and take off the front flaps.

Any updates on fuel mileage after a couple of months? With the price increases, the Falkens aren't as attractive any more...

 

[Yota Inc.]

I'm considering going from K02 to the RG. I was sold on the RG until reading these posts. Should I just stick with the K02?

 

[Yota Inc.]

I’ll say, what the RG lacks in snow performance it more than makes up for in off road capability. This is easily the best off road tire of the bunch.

They plowed right through some thick mud that had my truck sinking unbeknownst to me without even a hint of drama. I have 45 days to return them but if they keep up their off road prowess and good road manners (other than noise which is the loudest of the bunch) I may consider keeping them.

285/70-17 C Load

They look smaller than their actual size. This is confirmed by a lack of rubbing where my KO2s would.

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Why did you go away from the K02?