4Robber
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Not if you're going to get that angry about stuff!
Besides, what does the weather have to do with anything. Does your truck not have a heater?
I called the dealer ahead of time and they had the car inside, washed and warm for me.
No driver controlled Dome light??? Are you Kidding me!
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Not if you're going to get that angry about stuff!
Besides, what does the weather have to do with anything. Does your truck not have a heater?
I called the dealer ahead of time and they had the car inside, washed and warm for me.
kingpin748
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It's a 40k truck. You should take the time to find out what you're buying.
SeattleMike
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I drove 400 miles to test drive a truck I knew I wasn't going to buy just to see if the TE was better for us than the LE, to see the Nav in use in a TE, and to see if my wife could get in and out of it unassisted on a bad knee. For $40k you had better be certain it has all you need/want, etc.
Dispense
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To SeattleMike; we clearly see things differently. I can't understand how worked up people get over this. I don't even think he "F'ed up" by buying the truck...I bet he is still glad he owns it. But he's unhappy about some missing, seemingly standard features on a lot of domestics.
I respect your opinion, (you are a great contributer to the board) but I just don't see how this situation can be dealt with in such absolutes/inferences and fueled with so much personal emotion. The passive-aggressive posts are just as disrespectful in my eyes, but I can really never find a reason to do so, no matter how much it may be warranted.
I think this guy still deserves to own a T4R and I do believe he researched his purchase. Maybe not to the point of driver controlled dome lights, but what percentage of us actually did. I highly suspect the vast majority of people noticed this after their purchase and wishes we had it. I didn't realize this and it doesn't mean we all F'd up either, it was a slight oversight. I don't think it carries any more weight than that.
So what are our options to remedy this? I definitely don't have an electrical background other than simple wire splicing. Maybe some of those goofy "stick on" lights that the kids can push themselves? But, if I was a kid back there, my Dads 4Runner would look like a disco going down the street =)
I respect your opinion, (you are a great contributer to the board) but I just don't see how this situation can be dealt with in such absolutes/inferences and fueled with so much personal emotion. The passive-aggressive posts are just as disrespectful in my eyes, but I can really never find a reason to do so, no matter how much it may be warranted.
I think this guy still deserves to own a T4R and I do believe he researched his purchase. Maybe not to the point of driver controlled dome lights, but what percentage of us actually did. I highly suspect the vast majority of people noticed this after their purchase and wishes we had it. I didn't realize this and it doesn't mean we all F'd up either, it was a slight oversight. I don't think it carries any more weight than that.
So what are our options to remedy this? I definitely don't have an electrical background other than simple wire splicing. Maybe some of those goofy "stick on" lights that the kids can push themselves? But, if I was a kid back there, my Dads 4Runner would look like a disco going down the street =)
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3x4runnerOwner
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I'm wondering what is wrong with the O.P.'s A/C? Mine works like an ice box, and live in South Florida where the humidity is 90% most of the year. Also, as another poster pointed out, this is my 4th T4R (2nd and 3rd gens) and I have never seen one with a dash control for the dome light...but you said your '93 SR5 had this feature?
Yeah, I really need a "1/2" stop on my A/C fan. haha It puts some serious cold air out.
SeattleMike
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I'm using his reasoning, not my own, in saying that he screwed up. He is the one who came to a public board and started a thread using language that indicated he hates Toyota for omitting something. He's stated that he is not happy with his wife's truck.
Again, he came here to vent, an open forum. When posting on an open forum you have to accept that people are going to disagree and people are going to react in way you may not like... just like in the real world. I didn't go hang out in front of his house, badgering him until he voiced his complaints. He came here, blaming Toyota, for his own oversight. He wasn't asking for advice, he was ranting as if he were entitled to something. I pointed out that he failed to do his homework, and then things went south on his part. Some other people have offered sympathy, some empathy, and some like me have refused to let him blame others for what was his responsibility. Had he simply asked for advice on adding a light or locating the switch, he would have gotten more than a few replies offing advice, links, pics, or even help from people nearby.
From his posts, it appears his wife picked out this truck for herself and he's stuck with her choice. It's not about "deserve". No one has said he doesn't deserve a 4Runner. And the difference between you two is the total lack of pointing fingers and whining on your part. While you may not think it carries any weight, this guy was mad enough to post a thread about it. And that made me mad enough to respond.
Wire another dome light to the dome light over the middle row so the same switch operates both lights, preventing the "disco" problem. Then learn to find the switch in the dark while driving
Dispense
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"this guy was mad enough to post a thread about it. And that made me mad enough to respond."
I've said before I don't understand the personal attachment to this vehicle. I don't think anything on an internet forum about the vehicle you own should be taken so personally. Now I do love this truck, I am a "car guy" thanks to my Father. But I think most adults would read this thread and think near every post is hiliarious. All over a guy's venting about a dome-light. I don't think there needs to be any blame or acceptance of failure on anyones part. It's ridiculous to the core.
I don't point fingers or take a side here, really. I can see each side's point of view and think each can voice their own opinion without any disrespectful comments. I can't be convinced that that point of view is a poor one to have. There is a time to stick to your guns, I just don't think this is one of them.
I don't just don't agree with your thinking that everything is so extreme and black and white; there is a "beauty in gray".
I think the wiring of a light and switch is a great idea, but not one that most can do on their own. For someone with no electrical background, it could be quite daunting to do correctly and safely.
I've said before I don't understand the personal attachment to this vehicle. I don't think anything on an internet forum about the vehicle you own should be taken so personally. Now I do love this truck, I am a "car guy" thanks to my Father. But I think most adults would read this thread and think near every post is hiliarious. All over a guy's venting about a dome-light. I don't think there needs to be any blame or acceptance of failure on anyones part. It's ridiculous to the core.
I don't point fingers or take a side here, really. I can see each side's point of view and think each can voice their own opinion without any disrespectful comments. I can't be convinced that that point of view is a poor one to have. There is a time to stick to your guns, I just don't think this is one of them.
I don't just don't agree with your thinking that everything is so extreme and black and white; there is a "beauty in gray".
I think the wiring of a light and switch is a great idea, but not one that most can do on their own. For someone with no electrical background, it could be quite daunting to do correctly and safely.
SeattleMike
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Show me where I was asking for your opinion of my expression of my opinion, please. Show me where anyone asked for your judgment of our behavior, our attitudes, or our level of caring about our vehicles.
You keep telling me that you don't understand why anyone cares enough, that it's "ridiculous to the core", that you don't take sides, and yet you are riding my a$$ about disrespectful comments and that I shouldn't take things so personally. Which is mighty funny coming from a guy taking the time to complain about my posts at 1am on a Monday morning. Do you need a ladder to get on that horse you are riding?
And it's two wires and some adhesive tape...
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Dispense
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It takes me less 3 minutes to type a response to a thread. I am not that deeply vested into this. I am up late and up early because I was/am studying for an OB/GYN exam in two weeks, Emergency Medicine in 3 months, and my national PANCE in 5 months. I swing over here on study breaks.
I am only voicing my opinion like others here have. It is my and your right.
I really thought wiring a light would be more complicated. Having to remove/install the interior (if needed), run the wires, find a power source, a switch, not ruin the factory wiring in any way/void any warranty would be my concerns. But I have zero experience with electrical work; just never studied, learned, or was taught it.
I am only voicing my opinion like others here have. It is my and your right.
I really thought wiring a light would be more complicated. Having to remove/install the interior (if needed), run the wires, find a power source, a switch, not ruin the factory wiring in any way/void any warranty would be my concerns. But I have zero experience with electrical work; just never studied, learned, or was taught it.
This thread would have never turned out like this in the 4th gen forum. The fact of the matter is a lot of the 5th gen guys are overly sensitive when people (especially "one of their own") makes a post they deem negative towards the lack of features in the 5th gen 4Runner. There have been so many heated discussions about Toyota's decision to cut back on little features here and there that it doesn't take much of a spark to ignite a blaze around here.
I disagree. The tone was set by the OP, it wasn't friendly, but harsh and abrassive. Everyone just followed suit.
This thread just needs to be locked and forgotten.
DiscGolferDave
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I agree with Jason. Seeing all of the OP's posts pissed me off. The dude came off as really arrogant, and prissy. I hate those type of people with a passion.
So what? Why does it seem to bother you guys?
The guy is pissed and he's venting on the forum. Big deal. Get over it. No need to bash him until the sun sets.
Some of the replies here are hypocritical. You guys complaining about him whining, but you're whining yourselves. One thing we agree on is that the thread should be locked. It turned into nothing but twisted panties all around.
scanny
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It's not such a bad thread, it draws attention to lack of 3rd dome lights for those people who thinks it's important and shows others that there's not much else to complain about. So it can help folks who readng forum and trying to decide if 4Runner is for them or not. Just let's try to keep discussing 4Runners, not the people 
eus090474
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This actually doesnt seem like a bad idea
SYLVANIA Dot-It Silver LED Battery Operated Stick On Tap Light - 36010 at The Home Depot
SYLVANIA Dot-It Silver LED Battery Operated Stick On Tap Light - 36010 at The Home Depot
I wonder how much light those things throw out. I know the regular old tap lights were pretty crappy, but they had a pretty weak little bulb in them.
