Poll: Regear to 4.30 or 4.56

[Hepar]

Thinking I'm going to regear my Runner. So now the debate is on going to either a 4.30 setup or a 4.56. I'm running 265/75-16 tires. The best research I've found on what to gear at was (current gear ratio x new tire size)/stock tire size. So for me that would be (4.10 x 31.6)/30.6 which would equal 4.23.

Thoughts?

 

[NateMob]

Before i or anyone else votes we really need to know if you ever intend on stepping up in tire size? It's not worth it to go from 4.10s to 4.30s unless you get them for next to nothing.

 

[snivilous]

Yea please don't go to 4.30 since that's a 4% increase which you'll feel that much change if it's 10 degrees colder in the morning than the afternoon...

 

[jgue467]

More info first?

Don't know about others but I would want to consider what the plans are for your baby? Low and slow crawling, driving on flat, hilly and/or mountainous areas, how about any towing?

But if you're gonna make me just pick, I'd say 4.56. Why? Well 4.3 isn't too radically different than 4.1 or 4.23 - so if you're gonna do it, make a real diff! Luck! :banana:

 

[MasonT4R]

I've been pretty happy with 4.30's and running 265's. I haven't tried anything else however.

Should be easier to add an E-locker that way too (I think).

 

[Hepar]

No plans on stepping up and no plans on any sort of serious crawling. Just looking to get a little power back (especially on the hills) after lift, tires and bumper. I will most likely add a rear bumper somewhere down the road.

 

[NateMob]

If you are going to do it, go with the 4.56s.

If not, put that money towards a supercharger since you arent doing the re-gear for trail prowess(slower crawling). Sounds like the SC might serve you better. Just a thought.

 

[KidVermicious]

No plans on stepping up and no plans on any sort of serious crawling. Just looking to get a little power back (especially on the hills) after lift, tires and bumper. I will most likely add a rear bumper somewhere down the road.

4.30s and 265s blows goats (I have proof). I vote for 4.56 if you've got a five speed, 4.88 if it's an automatic.

 

[Dee3]

4.30s and 285s feel good to me. Much more pleasant too drive than my stock 02 with 4.10s. I know the concensus is higher but 4.30s aren't bad

 

[tre9er]

4.30s and 265s blows goats (I have proof). I vote for 4.56 if you've got a five speed, 4.88 if it's an automatic.

:iagree: #GoBigOrGoHome :biggrin2:

 

[02SE]

It wouldn't be worth it to me, just for driving around town.

If you want power and speed, I'd suggest buying a vehicle that has that to begin with.

 

[Hepar]

If you are going to do it, go with the 4.56s.

If not, put that money towards a supercharger since you arent doing the re-gear for trail prowess(slower crawling). Sounds like the SC might serve you better. Just a thought.

Yeah, the original plan was to SC it, but I've sort of been moving away from that idea.

 

[smallfry]

4.30s and 265s blows goats (I have proof).

x2


I went from 4.10 to 4.30 when I swapped in an elocked axle a while back and haven't noticed any difference.

 

[tre9er]

pounds table for 4.88s

 

[white_n_slow]

If 265/75-16 is the biggest you plan to go, it would be a total waste of effort and $$$ to regear IMO.

If both tires are true to size difference between a stock 265/70-16 and a "up-sized" 265/75-16 is about an inch. Just to put that in perspective, the real measured tire size can vary by at least that much just depending on what brand of tire you get, even if they're listed as the same size.

Personal experience: I owned 2 runners with a 5-speed and 285/75-16 Coopers, both with stock 4.10, and although gearing wasn't ideal, it wasn't bad at all. I just used 4th gear more for passing and climbing the mountain passes.

Stick with the 4.10 and save your money for hookers and blow.

 

[Hepar]

I owned 2 runners with a 5-speed

I think that's the biggest difference. I have an auto. And to me it's not just the tire size, but the added weight as well as the lift that contributes to the loss in power.

 

[BrandonF]

I think that's the biggest difference. I have an auto. And to me it's not just the tire size, but the added weight as well as the lift that contributes to the loss in power.

I'm currently on heavy 265/75/16's with plate bumpers front and rear, rock sliders, lift, and some other small things. I honestly don't notice any difference from the added weight in terms of power or mpg. I know that when I go to 285's I will feel it, but with my current setup, the stock 4.10 gears are pretty ideal. If I was running 4.56's, I'd be revving way too high on the highway IMO. It's still my DD so on-road driveability is important.

I do have the manual as well, but still.

 

[GhostDog]

If it were me I would stick with 4.10, although you have added some weight I don't see that as being a significant drag affecting your power to the point that would require gearing lower. Also, lower gearing will a small tire size will keep your rpms higher- this is great for keeping you in the "power" range but will affect your mpgs.

I usually run with the rig packed with gear + wife and dog with auto 4.30s on 35s and cruise mountain roads easily...

 

[Hepar]

I came from a lifted/armored Tacoma with the 3.4l and a 5-speed. The 5-speed is MUCH different from the auto. Trust me.

 

[Hepar]

And you guys are making me reconsider a SC. I hate all of you.