SEATS...Im not a fan, I want to replace them
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ayeyothisiskyle
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You ain't down.
PaulB-2006 T4R
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LawnDart
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There’s some current issues regarding airbags, the seat position sensor, and electrical harness that have to be overcome. The airbags and sensor are absolutely critical otherwise you give up safety for comfort.
I’m working with a German seat company right now on a potential front seat swap. It won’t be cheap. But it’ll be a lot better.
I’m working with a German seat company right now on a potential front seat swap. It won’t be cheap. But it’ll be a lot better.
jrandom
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...it wouldn't happen to be these guys would it?
scheel-mann usa | Orthopedic Automotive Seats Please say yes. I pretty much had written it off for all the reasons you mention.
While I am not a huge fan of current gen seats, my wife seriously hates them. My back is a bit jacked and thankfully getting better. So both of us would benefit.
LawnDart
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...it wouldn't happen to be these guys would it?
Please say yes. I pretty much had written it off for all the reasons you mention.
While I am not a huge fan of current gen seats, my wife seriously hates them. My back is a bit jacked and thankfully getting better. So both of us would benefit.
Yep. It’s SM.
I’m working with them to offer a version for the 5th gen. And other modern vehicles.
KuhDunkADunk
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Looks awesome! I'd be interested.
jrandom
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Go team!
4RnR Grl
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My hubby complains endlessly about the 4R seats. He now sits on a pillow for every trip. I tell him he's a baby.... but they do suck, especially for long travel days.
Mutant138
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You ain't down.
My back grew a dick and came looking at this. Prob be cheaper to get one from a wreck and have someone install it/fab it up yourself. I bet those seats are close to 5,000-10,000 doll hairs range.
jrandom
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Author states his Vario F XXL were $1900 ea
https://expeditionportal.com/the-best-seat-in-the-house-scheel-mann-seat-review/
So basically 5 extended physical therapy session and 4 massages per seat.
If it keeps my better half back to riding trails, riding solo gets sucky after a while, I am all for it.
Mutant138
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Author states his Vario F XXL were $1900 ea
https://expeditionportal.com/the-best-seat-in-the-house-scheel-mann-seat-review/
So basically 5 extended physical therapy session and 4 massages per seat.
If it keeps my better half back to riding trails, riding solo gets sucky after a while, I am all for it.
That's dirt cheap honestly. Some adjustable sparco's will run closer to 4g's. Now I want to know how much the suspension seats are...
Edit: So the recaro air ride seat is called STANDARD RECARO ERGO B. It has a ton of options, I can't seem to find any prices anywhere. Prob mostly for commercial sales. Might try and call to get a price.
EDIT 2: Air Ride seats can be had new and used on ebay for 1000 and under. Didn't see any recaros. Most ugly ass comercial vic seats.
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LawnDart
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All decked out they can be about 3k. When I do long trips my minimum drive time is usually 10 hours.
So to me better seats are worth more than a supercharger. Seats are the one thing you use every time you drive.
One of the biggest issues surprisingly is the seat mounts. They have to be built for the 4Runner and it kind of raises some liability concerns for the company that eventually makes the brackets. Remember the seats are a safety system and if anything fails there’s major concerns over who is to blame.
So to me better seats are worth more than a supercharger. Seats are the one thing you use every time you drive.
One of the biggest issues surprisingly is the seat mounts. They have to be built for the 4Runner and it kind of raises some liability concerns for the company that eventually makes the brackets. Remember the seats are a safety system and if anything fails there’s major concerns over who is to blame.
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Bumbo
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That's truth right there... Tacoma seats in a Limited are pathetic compared to the 4Runner.
Personally I like the seats in the GX a lot... instead of constantly complaining what I wish the 5th Gen had, i'm getting ready to trade up next year and get me a V8 after I realized its OK to off-road in the lap of luxury.
Probably gona start carrying grey poupon in the ARB fridge freezer.
Mutant138
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Idk I didn't mind the tacoma seats (had a 17 for a min). They had better bolstering at least (keeps you in the seat better when rocking side to side). Just the seating position sucks for tall people in the tacoma. They both leave much to be desired tho.
Bumbo
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The seats themselves are not bad, or good, it is what it is. Not particularly comfortable from my current truck (Z71 Silverado with leather captains seats)
What killed it for me was no memory seats, no power seats, in the Limited trim. Its all manual which blew my mind.
I don't even think you can get leather seats? Maybe I am mistaken.
I found the max height of the steering column to be very limiting, making it increasing more difficult and uncomfortable when entering / exiting.
I really wanted to like the truck, but I passed on it because it just wasn't there. Compared to a 4Runner, the interior trim and quality was night and day which is how I ended up with a 5th Gen Limited. The Limited seats are quite nice.
LawnDart
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It's realistic for ONE seat.
Remember that the economy of scale for Toyota allows them to make seats for a lot lower a cost than that of companies like Scheel Mann.
If (I say If because nothing is set in stone) or when the seats are released you can scale your costs based on the features, bolsters, materials, etc. And they can run the gamut of okay price wise to very expensive.
I will caution people, right now the Scheel Manns are manually adjusted seats. I know they're working on power adjustments, but these won't be super motorized. However they will be considering more comfortable. I've sat in them before and they're fantastic.
