Solution for Console Handgun Mount

[jwkilgore]

California is a "may issue" state which means in practice, it's damn near impossible to get a permit. Unless you're a celebrity, well connected, or you have a business reason for it

I guess it could be for certain cities/counties, but California did open the registration process last year. My friend who lives in Newport applied, waited about 60 days, and received his permit.

California varies from "shall issue" to "hell no", depending on where you live. In the major cities the only way to get a CCW is to apply from a hospital bed after being beaten to a bloody pulp. And maybe not even then. In the rural areas just fill out the paperwork and wait. Maybe it'll all change once the courts finish working everything out, but that's still a ways off.

[MENTION=121085]34SF[/MENTION]: Can you post a pic of your setup? I'm not happy with my console setup for my Walther PPS.

 

[alico268]

Same question....
why didn't you mount it like this, so you or passenger could easily get to it without being a contortionist?

[MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION], what's that attached to the back of the striker firing pin with the two hex bolts?

 

[delloro]

They are not issuing CCWs until some important court ruling (I forget which one).

Peruta!

 

[Wingman707]

IWB Clip

It appears to be an Inside the Waist Band clip. If you are bare bones, clips like this can allow retention with maximum concealment.

 

[34SF]

I made a mistake on the above post this is a right handed holster with MOLLE mounts. It's secured to the seat and moves with the seat. An open top Kydex would be better but this works.

 

[ChloroFiend]

Same question....
why didn't you mount it like this, so you or passenger could easily get to it without being a contortionist?

Friends don't let friends use SERPA holsters. Bad juju there.

 

[Saker]

[MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION], what's that attached to the back of the striker firing pin with the two hex bolts?

It appears to be an Inside the Waist Band clip. If you are bare bones, clips like this can allow retention with maximum concealment.

[MENTION=100551]Wingman707[/MENTION] answered the question correctly! :first:

 

[Saker]

Friends don't let friends use SERPA holsters. Bad juju there.

I haven't had any issues with it.
It is only used for this application.
I guess it depends on how it is used, period.
Also, I don't keep one in the chamber. If I have to use it, then one goes in the hole as it comes into position.


just sayin'

 

[ChloroFiend]

I haven't had any issues with it.
It is only used for this application.
I guess it depends on how it is used, period.
Also, I don't keep one in the chamber. If I have to use it, then one goes in the hole as it comes into position.


just sayin'

Cant' disagree with you there, Just make damn sure to keep any sort of small debris out of that console. Seen far too many anecdotes of tiny pieces of gravel or other crap jamming up the release lever and needing to cut the gun out.

 

[Saker]

Cant' disagree with you there, Just make damn sure to keep any sort of small debris out of that console. Seen far too many anecdotes of tiny pieces of gravel or other crap jamming up the release lever and needing to cut the gun out.

Thanks for that heads-up....
I can see how that could be a very bad outcome!

Never any small objects like that in the center console.

Thanks again.

 

[Bevo]

Also, I don't keep one in the chamber. If I have to use it, then one goes in the hole as it comes into position.


just sayin'

Might as well put a large rock in that holster then.

just sayin'

 

[Saker]

Might as well put a large rock in that holster then.

just sayin'

Maybe for you...

LOL....

You just need to practice, practice, practice, you will surprise yourself how much it will help in a situation.

just sayin'

 

[Bevo]

Maybe for you...

LOL....

You just need to practice, practice, practice, you will surprise yourself how much it will help in a situation.

just sayin'

i just never have had much use for an unloaded gun personally, but hey carry it however you feel comfortable.

 

[Saker]

To the OP,
Didn't mean to hijack this thread, it was unintended!

i just never have had much use for an unloaded gun personally, but hey carry it however you feel comfortable.

I really don't consider it unloaded.
It's not like I have the magazine locked away or even out of the firearm.

I respect your POV @Bevo.

I may just drop one in from now on.

 

[nevada]

To the OP,
Didn't mean to hijack this thread, it was unintended!




I really don't consider it unloaded.
It's not like I have the magazine locked away or even out of the firearm.

I respect your POV @Bevo.

I may just drop one in from now on.

chambered is the only way to carry.
I realize for some, it takes while to get there, but it should be the goal.

I also prefer to carry with the safety OFF. my carry piece is DA/SA. the DA trigger requires a somewhat heavy, and very deliberate pull. I have no worries of it going off, unless I make it happen.

 

[jicko]

I haven't had any issues with it.
It is only used for this application.
I guess it depends on how it is used, period.
Also, I don't keep one in the chamber. If I have to use it, then one goes in the hole as it comes into position.
just sayin'

[MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] , more reasons for you to not keep one in the chamber if you actually use that IWB clip! :lmao:

Now, you should seriously practice single-hand chambering, you have the perfect rear sight for that (large ghost ring sight). Gun out the holster, rack your slide by catching the ghost ring to probably the lip of your center console, and punch forward to rack the slide. You should be able to achieve this all single handed.

For your standing IWB draw, pull your pistol, and either catch the rear sight to you belt and punch down to rack..... or catch your rear sight to the heel of your shoe and punch down to rack.....

All of the above requires practice, but can be done easily after a few practices, not rocket science, just muscle memory. :bravo:

PS. you do have the hammer dropped too right? That way when you "feel" the trigger, you will get yourself reminded that there is no round in the chamber..... just saying....

chambered is the only way to carry.
I realize for some, it takes while to get there, but it should be the goal.

This I can agree. I am all for carrying hot. Weapons platforms that are under my immediate control are hot.

But then [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION], wasn't "carrying" here.....

I also prefer to carry with the safety OFF. my carry piece is DA/SA. the DA trigger requires a somewhat heavy, and very deliberate pull. I have no worries of it going off, unless I make it happen.

This I cannot.

IMHO. IF your weapon platform has a safety, use it. On target, off safety; off target, on safety. Disengaging the safety is not going to take you anymore time than not. Again, it is not rock science, just practice and muscle memory.

 

[nevada]

This I cannot.

IMHO. IF your weapon platform has a safety, use it. On target, off safety; off target, on safety. Disengaging the safety is not going to take you anymore time than not. Again, it is not rock science, just practice and muscle memory.

nope, a safety is just another thing to HAVE to think about when the SHTF.
chambered, hammer down, safety off. always.

 

[Wingman707]

Only the least of your worries

Like anything else on any forum, take it with a grain of salt. I share the same concerns with the Serpa Holster. I have the identical holster set up in my console for a couple reasons that WILL contradict what I am about to tell you.
Serpa Holsters have been banned on almost every range that I have trained on. For the most part, safety. A lot of people who have not TRAINED with that type of retention holster seem to want to index the lock lever with the tip of their index finger!!!!! BIG NO NO. It is meant and always have been made to be indexed with the back of your knuckle (front of/palm of your finger) pushing flat upon the lever.
If you try to index with the tip, creating a "C" shape with your index. Your finger will be sure to drive itself directly into the trigger guard even worse onto the trigger.

This next comment is not telling you what is best for you, however it is telling you what I have learned.

Crazy to NOT have a round chambered for a defensive pistol. (I am sure that is up for debate) a debate I would be willing to discuss.

 

[RiDE]

Another vote for one ALWAYS in the chamber. Guns are meant to be loaded, if not, its just a metal/polymer toy. I keep all my guns loaded and ready, locked up in a safe, of course.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Personally I would keep a defensive weapon in:

Condition 1 (magazine inserted, round in chamber, bolt/slide forward, weapon on safe, hammer down)

With proper training and muscle memory, flipping the safety off while drawing the weapon should be a fluid and natural movement as you bring the barrel on target. My favorite pistol currently is my "Baby Desert Eagle" .40 S&W (basically a re-badged IWI Jericho 941) and popping the safety off is very easy to do as you grip the weapon (mine is unfortunately a slide mounted safety.) All you do is angle the tip of your thumb upwards (the ball of your hand grips the pistol comfortably) as you're grabbing the weapon (so your doing a almost 45* thumbs up) tap the Safety Off and then engage a full grip.

I understand the idea of trying to minimize things that can go wrong, but if you're drilling and training with your weapon(s) frequently then it will become a natural motion as you draw your weapon.

But, again to each their own.