Stripped screws and broke bolts

AZ3rdGenRunner

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I looked and did not see anyone having posted about this yet.

So here goes, considering that the newest 3rd Gen T4R is 12/13 years old, there is no doubt that screws are stuck beyond what penetrating chemicals can fix, and will end up with a stripped top. That, or a bolt is likely to have the head snap off.

The other day, when trying to remove my MAF sensor, the screws were badly stripped, and my attempt at removing them with a screwdriver did not help things.

This is the screw extractor set I used, I bought it from Home Depot for $8.95 - ish, and used the #1 extractor for the screws on my MAF sensor screws.

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Following the placard behind the extractors, I used a 7/64" drill bit, and drilled in the screw head a little bit.

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I went just a little bit further than this.

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Then I put the extractor into my drill, and instead of drilling down, I put the drill into reverse (the extractors are left hand threaded), and just went nice and slow putting lots of pressure behind the drill.

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Sure enough, a second later the screw started to come out.

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And bam, stripped screw removed!

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This process would work the exact same for any bolt that had the head snap off. Just drill into the center of the bolt, then with your drill in reverse, and applying pressure, drill into the bolt shaft with the extractor until the bolt starts to back out.

In the event the extractor does not engage the metal, drill a little further with the appropriate size drill bit, and try again.... the first screw took me about 3 attempts until I got deep enough with the drill bit. Just be careful not to over drill when removing small screws because, because you might drill into the material the screw is stuck in.

Good luck! Hope this helps someone!

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The reason those MAF screws strip is because you need to use JIS screwdrivers. They are not phillips head.

Try using Liquid Wrench or PB blaster on bolts next time. I have yet to strip a bolt using these and I am talking about bolts that have been through New Jersey winters.
 
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The reason those MAF screws strip is because you need to use JIS screwdrivers. They are not phillips head.

I'll be go to hell, I'd never heard of that. The bolts on my MAF are now custom Dremel cutting wheel shaped, but I guess I better invest in a set of JIS drivers. Thanks for the tip.
 
Fellow member Stick Figure pointed out that they were JIS screws some time ago (years). I think he had bought some Vessel JIS screwdrivers.

I have always found that a large #2 phillips head screwdrivers works well with JIS screws. Somewhere else they are found in the engine bay, but cannot remember at the moment.
 
I switched mine to metric Allen screws. I have JIS drivers, but the Allen screws are easier to work with with no clearance. Plus a little Anti-Seize, and no problems for 15 years. The nice thing about being original owner and sole mechanic is after 15 years the most used fasteners all have Anti-Seize on them.
 
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The reason those MAF screws strip is because you need to use JIS screwdrivers. They are not phillips head.

Try using Liquid Wrench or PB blaster on bolts next time. I have yet to strip a bolt using these and I am talking about bolts that have been through New Jersey winters.

The writeup is not about MAF screws. I have JIS drivers, and used WD40 equivalent of liquid wrench, but the head was to far gone. Have only owned my truck 2 months!

Now, the writeup is about this situation ANYWHERE on the rig or even in your home. Any broken bolt or stripped screw. I did this writeup because I'm sure first time mechanics will strip screws and ruin bolt heads, and this is a way to fix the problem without risking damage to threaded parts.
 
Thanks for the write up. Those self-tapping SOBs on our skids come to mind, especially when the PO took it to quick lube places who cross threaded them with a impact gun.
 
The reason those MAF screws strip is because you need to use JIS screwdrivers. They are not phillips head.

Try using Liquid Wrench or PB blaster on bolts next time. I have yet to strip a bolt using these and I am talking about bolts that have been through New Jersey winters.

Fellow member Stick Figure pointed out that they were JIS screws some time ago (years). I think he had bought some Vessel JIS screwdrivers.

I have always found that a large #2 phillips head screwdrivers works well with JIS screws. Somewhere else they are found in the engine bay, but cannot remember at the moment.

I have the Vessel ball end JIS screwdrivers and I love them. I have used the 230 cross point P2 a ton, and it has been great. I bought ball ends, and now I wonder why I ever bought non-ball end screwdrivers, they are alot easer to use than normal ones. They are very good quality, and have magnetic tips. I also bought a set of JIS cross point bits, and a few months later, vessel sent me a new set with a letter saying they may have sent an english set instead (they had) and wanted to correct their mistake. So I was impressed with their customer service too.

Another tip, before you strip it out, get some valve grinding compound from autozone and put some on your screwdriver tip. It will increase the grip of the tool alot and has saved me a bunch.
 
I've used those removers on plenty of things. I also had to use these stripped bolt extractors when doing the starter on my wife's '98...
Vise Grip 394002 5 Pc. Bolt-Grip Bolt Remover

The bolt was rounded, and nothing I had would get it to budge. bought these, and used a 4ft pipe as a breaker bar...had someone lift as I held the extractor in place...boom, bolt loose.
 
I have the Vessel ball end JIS screwdrivers and I love them. I have used the 230 cross point P2 a ton, and it has been great. I bought ball ends, and now I wonder why I ever bought non-ball end screwdrivers, they are alot easer to use than normal ones. They are very good quality, and have magnetic tips. I also bought a set of JIS cross point bits, and a few months later, vessel sent me a new set with a letter saying they may have sent an english set instead (they had) and wanted to correct their mistake. So I was impressed with their customer service too.

Another tip, before you strip it out, get some valve grinding compound from autozone and put some on your screwdriver tip. It will increase the grip of the tool alot and has saved me a bunch.

Where did you order? I have a cheaper brand from amazon (Hozan) and the handles are okay. I want the Vessel's even if they are more.
 

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