xskydivingdudex
Senior Member
Ya i say do 35w, 5000k or 6000k, H4 HI/LO, and u only need quantity of 1.
Teach me, oh wise ones, about HIDs
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piperoo
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Awesome, thanks! So when those come in I will just take out the current bulb and replace and I am assuming the harness will be a direct plug in to what is on my 4Runner now?
cj80cruiser
Senior Member
Thats the same link I posted and if the 100 series guys are using them I can assure you they are pretty good.
We need H4's? Somebody told me I needed h1's but if H4 will fit with no problem then I'd rather do that too.
cj80cruiser
Senior Member
Man, I'm always riden... headed to atlanta tomorrow and pick'n up a girl to take to the river near lake martin. maybe I'll get lucky, lol. :whip2:
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cj80cruiser
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I'd make that trip.
denverunner
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If you install HID's..... (For the benefit of all other drivers
PLEASE retrofit a projector to your (hopefully 99-02) headlight assembly.
PLEASE retrofit a projector to your (hopefully 99-02) headlight assembly.
steezemcqueen
Moderator
If you are putting them in the stock housing, buy the DDM Hi/Lo kit for the H4 bulb. get a 35w unless you are doing projectors otherwise you are going to be blinding people. i got the 35w 6000k Hi/Lo kit from them and it works great. it has a shield for the bulb on low beam and then the bulb moves for high beam. i never get flashed with it. get 6000k or less because anything above that is just going to be ricer blue. the 6000k is actually just a little to blue for my liking but its not enough for me to want to change it.
xskydivingdudex
Senior Member
i agree with steeze... but ya ppl usually say to get the H1 bulbs bc they are retrofitting projectors into their headlights and thats wat most of them use. But if u are just using the stock housing then ull need the hi/lo H4 bulbs. DON'T forget to readjust ur headlights a little lower so that ur not blinding oncoming traffic...
cj80cruiser
Senior Member
Ok, that makes sense. So H4s it is.
CO_FlyFisher
New member
Glad to see some common sense in this thread today. :cheers: Please, don't be a jack@ss and just stuff HIDs into the factory housing!!! :bash: They weren't designed for the emission pattern of an HID envelope, and you will be blinding oncoming traffic ALL THE TIME!!! Also, you WILL eventually get pulled over for it (I know at least 5 people who swore they wouldn't, and eventually did).
If you're going to go to HID, either do the projector retrofit or use the kit Steeze mentioned. THANK YOU!
(I know I'm coming off as an @sshole here, but I'm tired of being blinded by ricers and morons who do HIDs half @ssed. :uzi: It is ILLEGAL!!!)
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If you're going to go to HID, either do the projector retrofit or use the kit Steeze mentioned. THANK YOU!
(I know I'm coming off as an @sshole here, but I'm tired of being blinded by ricers and morons who do HIDs half @ssed. :uzi: It is ILLEGAL!!!)
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xskydivingdudex
Senior Member
Co flyfisher: all of the HI/lo kits that DDM Tuning sells comes with the shield to reduce glare for on coming traffic and i know that projectors are great but i know some ppl cant afford it or dont have the skills to do the retrofit themselves. Just sayin...
*Most important note for everyone that has HIDs with or without projectors is to keep the shield on if offered and DO readjust ur headlights lower!
*Most important note for everyone that has HIDs with or without projectors is to keep the shield on if offered and DO readjust ur headlights lower!
steezemcqueen
Moderator
Glad to see some common sense in this thread today. :cheers: Please, don't be a jack@ss and just stuff HIDs into the factory housing!!! :bash: They weren't designed for the emission pattern of an HID envelope, and you will be blinding oncoming traffic ALL THE TIME!!! Also, you WILL eventually get pulled over for it (I know at least 5 people who swore they wouldn't, and eventually did).
If you're going to go to HID, either do the projector retrofit or use the kit Steeze mentioned. THANK YOU!
(I know I'm coming off as an @sshole here, but I'm tired of being blinded by ricers and morons who do HIDs half @ssed. :uzi: It is ILLEGAL!!!)
i have had mine for a year and a half and i never get flashed and have never been pulled over for them. yes there are a lot of HID setups that have a ton of glare and easily blind people. but installing projectors is not the only way to run HIDs. my 35w DDM's with the casper shield and the 99+ headlights work really well and i have a DISTINCT cutoff. obviously retrofiting projectors in a better way to go but buying coilovers for lifting is a better way too and not everyone does that.
GetOut
New member
Interesting I hadn't heard of this before. I'd like to hear from others' what their experience has been. I definietly like my highs to activate quickly! So for the ones that are not dual in/dual out... do they just have halogens? can you replace these with say, the silverstars etc?
Whiplash Willy
New member
Here is a thread form HID Planet that will give you a good basic understanding of everything you need to know:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080
Here is an excerpt that explains why you don't want to use HID bulbs in Halogen housings:
Now for the question about putting hid bulb in a halogen housing, you cannot do this. Any reflector or projector designed for a halogen bulb will not work with hid. the reason is the different ways the two bulbs emit light. Halogen has a small filament in the center of the bulb, whereas hid has a very large arc tube that emits light. The two require completely different optic design for the lens. The hid reflector and projector are designed based on the geometry of the hid bulb and how it emits light. This is why the oem hardware works so well.
Now if you decide to go with a cheap kit and throw it in a halogen housing, bad things will happen. One, there will be alot of stray light (glare) above the cutoff line which will shine directly into drivers eyes. This is very dangerous due to the angle and brightness of the light. Also, you will have areas on the road where there is no light, and areas with more light. This produces hot spots, or uneven areas of lighting. While some kits provide decent ground light, much of it is lost above the cutoff and never makes it to the ground. in addition, halogen headlamps just do not provide a wide enough beam to really put the extra hid light to use. For example, lets put an H4 rebased hid kit into this civic halogen reflector. Look what happens on the wall, the cutoff is nothing but a large blob, and there is alot of light above the blob where there should not be any.
Now lets take a look at the ground. While this kit provides acceptable results, the beam is still similar to stock. There is alot of foreground missing, and the beam does not go very far or wide.
Now what happens if we switch to an oem hid projector and look at the ground. There is perfectly even lighting all around, stretching out from the edge of the bumper to the far distance. Also look how wide you can see to the left and right, into the field.
And another to show how much wider the beam is. Since hid is so bright, engineers can adjust the projector to output a much more spread out beam. Halogen projectors on the other hand must focus light more to a smaller area.
Now look what happens when you put a real hid projector up against a wall. Instead of a big fuzz, you get a sharp straight line with light below and darkness above to limit glare to other drivers.
So if you are really interested in better headlight performance, you NEED to Retrofit projectors into 99-02 housings.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2080
Here is an excerpt that explains why you don't want to use HID bulbs in Halogen housings:
Now for the question about putting hid bulb in a halogen housing, you cannot do this. Any reflector or projector designed for a halogen bulb will not work with hid. the reason is the different ways the two bulbs emit light. Halogen has a small filament in the center of the bulb, whereas hid has a very large arc tube that emits light. The two require completely different optic design for the lens. The hid reflector and projector are designed based on the geometry of the hid bulb and how it emits light. This is why the oem hardware works so well.
Now if you decide to go with a cheap kit and throw it in a halogen housing, bad things will happen. One, there will be alot of stray light (glare) above the cutoff line which will shine directly into drivers eyes. This is very dangerous due to the angle and brightness of the light. Also, you will have areas on the road where there is no light, and areas with more light. This produces hot spots, or uneven areas of lighting. While some kits provide decent ground light, much of it is lost above the cutoff and never makes it to the ground. in addition, halogen headlamps just do not provide a wide enough beam to really put the extra hid light to use. For example, lets put an H4 rebased hid kit into this civic halogen reflector. Look what happens on the wall, the cutoff is nothing but a large blob, and there is alot of light above the blob where there should not be any.
Now lets take a look at the ground. While this kit provides acceptable results, the beam is still similar to stock. There is alot of foreground missing, and the beam does not go very far or wide.
Now what happens if we switch to an oem hid projector and look at the ground. There is perfectly even lighting all around, stretching out from the edge of the bumper to the far distance. Also look how wide you can see to the left and right, into the field.
And another to show how much wider the beam is. Since hid is so bright, engineers can adjust the projector to output a much more spread out beam. Halogen projectors on the other hand must focus light more to a smaller area.
Now look what happens when you put a real hid projector up against a wall. Instead of a big fuzz, you get a sharp straight line with light below and darkness above to limit glare to other drivers.
So if you are really interested in better headlight performance, you NEED to Retrofit projectors into 99-02 housings.
denverunner
New member
Bravo!
Thank you WW for the simple, foolproof education:thumb3:
Thank you WW for the simple, foolproof education:thumb3:
Supra725
New member
here's my retrofit from an fellow board member.
If you have any more questions, Pm SikHiluxSurf. He was the one that did the retrofit for me and couldn't be happier with it.
I used to run hid's with no projector and the output was horrible. If you do it, do it the right way and don't cut corners.
Fx projectors with tsx lens.
with Piaa 520's.
If you have any more questions, Pm SikHiluxSurf. He was the one that did the retrofit for me and couldn't be happier with it.
I used to run hid's with no projector and the output was horrible. If you do it, do it the right way and don't cut corners.
Fx projectors with tsx lens.
with Piaa 520's.
Jon
New member
Why are HID's being associated with ricers? Think some one watched Fast and Furious too many times. They also use steering wheels and windshields, so we should probably find an alternative. Point being, HID's are newer technology why not upgrade? I've had a 6000K kit in my 66Galaxie for a year and never have I once been flashed or pulled over. I go through the Hurlburt Field gate every night and the gate guards (who happen to be anal as hell) haven't said anything about my lights. I'll never have projectors again, I hate the dam cut-off. My kit will be here by the end of the week. I ended up sticking with 6000K like the Galaxie. YouTube - 6Dsick 6000k HIDs
