I can't speak for the KO/KO2 but I've run the toyo At2 in p metric. They work great in everything except hard packed snow. I'm guessing this has to do with the tires compound hardening up in sub freezing temps. They have zero signs of any wear at 10k miles, but imagine this is a trade off in ice/hard packed snow.
toyo oc at2 xt. vs bfg ko2
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farsider3000
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Gt4r,
What size of Toyo AT2 did you run? If it was 275 or 285 did you have to remove the front mud flaps or do other mods to prevent rubbing?
I love the K02 but I am concerned about the weight and its affect on mpg, especially in stop/go traffic. A heavier tire should also make the vehicle feel less agile when driving around town.
Pkniland
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Just went to the KO2 in 275, it is less nible, but it really wasn't as bad as I expected. As good as they look on the truck, to me at least, it is well worth it.
Ron4RNevada
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Lots of BFG TA/KO and Toyo OC M/T experience
I had a couple sets of BFG TA/KOs in LT 265/75-16 (E) on my Land Rover (2004 Discovery). Great tire = Noisy, super traction, long lasting, never burst a sidewall in rocks. Typically replaced at about 45-50,000 miles due to so much chipping of the tread blocks that they would no longer balance. Changed over to Toyo Open Country A/T (C) also in LT 265/75-16. Also noisy, super traction - However over the course of three years I busted the sidewalls out of all four (one at a time) - all replaced on warranty by Les Schwab. Last set on Land Rover I went to Toyo Open Country M/T (E) in LT 265/55-16. This turned out to be the perfect tire for northern Nevada. They were still on it when I traded for the T4R after the engine on the Land Rover crapped out the second time at 200,000 with slipped cylinder liner and blown head gasket.
Third day I had the 4Runner (2013 SR5 at 31,000 miles) I got rid of the p-metric Dunlops and put on a set of Toyo Open Country M/T LT 265/70-17 (E) - The Toyota now performs as well as the LR for the last 5000 miles
I had a couple sets of BFG TA/KOs in LT 265/75-16 (E) on my Land Rover (2004 Discovery). Great tire = Noisy, super traction, long lasting, never burst a sidewall in rocks. Typically replaced at about 45-50,000 miles due to so much chipping of the tread blocks that they would no longer balance. Changed over to Toyo Open Country A/T (C) also in LT 265/75-16. Also noisy, super traction - However over the course of three years I busted the sidewalls out of all four (one at a time) - all replaced on warranty by Les Schwab. Last set on Land Rover I went to Toyo Open Country M/T (E) in LT 265/55-16. This turned out to be the perfect tire for northern Nevada. They were still on it when I traded for the T4R after the engine on the Land Rover crapped out the second time at 200,000 with slipped cylinder liner and blown head gasket.
Third day I had the 4Runner (2013 SR5 at 31,000 miles) I got rid of the p-metric Dunlops and put on a set of Toyo Open Country M/T LT 265/70-17 (E) - The Toyota now performs as well as the LR for the last 5000 miles
sovat4r
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I've had them all over the years, and I can tell you that I will never run anything but Toyo on my various trucks. On my lifted GMC I always ran 35x12.50 Load Range E Toyo MTs, and through the thick n' thin they never let me down. I would run them for 30k or so, sell them on CL for about half of original cost, then get another fresh set. As long as you rotate correctly and are in proper alignment, the tread will remain deep and uniform after many, many miles of driving.
On my new 'Runner, I decided to try out 285/75 Toyo AT IIs again in the Load Range E. In the past couple of blizzards they have done nothing but impress!
FWIW, the Coopers are good tires but I've had bad experience with premature wear. The BFGs (both ATs and MTs) are nice when new, but you pay out the arse for the name and again the wear comes quick if you do much highway driving.
On my new 'Runner, I decided to try out 285/75 Toyo AT IIs again in the Load Range E. In the past couple of blizzards they have done nothing but impress!
FWIW, the Coopers are good tires but I've had bad experience with premature wear. The BFGs (both ATs and MTs) are nice when new, but you pay out the arse for the name and again the wear comes quick if you do much highway driving.
toyo
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I just wrestled with this decision big time. I had the AT2 in a 265/65/18 on my 4th Gen up until Friday. I got a set of new TRD Pro wheels so I had to get new tires as well. I really liked the Toyo's for the 20K miles I used them. I pretty much drove them in all kinds of different terrains including a trip out to Moab. They are quite, strong and have above average traction for a A/T tire IMO. I would say the biggest weakness that I have with them is heavy rain. Granted I am a huge Michelin tire user which are amazing in the rain.
I really wanted to try the KO2's since I have never owned them. Great looking tire as well. I ended up going with 285/70/17 in the Toyo AT/2. I have only driven it maybe 100 miles or so but I was quickly impressed with how smooth and quite they are. I know the bigger the tire the louder and more difficult it can be to get them balanced out.
Another huge positive is the weight savings. My Fuel wheels weighed 44 .lbs each! The tires were 44 each as well.
My new wheels weighed in at 25 .lbs and the new tires are 48. I am saving close to 60 pounds total. The 15 .lbs at each corner is pretty significant.
I really wanted to try the KO2's since I have never owned them. Great looking tire as well. I ended up going with 285/70/17 in the Toyo AT/2. I have only driven it maybe 100 miles or so but I was quickly impressed with how smooth and quite they are. I know the bigger the tire the louder and more difficult it can be to get them balanced out.
Another huge positive is the weight savings. My Fuel wheels weighed 44 .lbs each! The tires were 44 each as well.
My new wheels weighed in at 25 .lbs and the new tires are 48. I am saving close to 60 pounds total. The 15 .lbs at each corner is pretty significant.
TRD4runnin
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So, is there an advantage to a 275 over a 265? How about the load E vs Load C?
Ron4RNevada
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I'm now at 13,000 miles on the Toyo Open Country LT 265-70-17 M/T (E) on the 4Runner: Close to 3000 miles of that off road (sand and rocks mostly). Probably less than 1/32 tread wear, no chunks out of tread to speak of, no deep sidewall cuts. Still noisy. Gas mileage on highway between 19.5 to 22 (if no headwinds or steep climbs).
Comparable BFG TA/KO in the past were more easily chunked tread blocks and tread cracks.
Conditions in all cases:
I tend to be light footed on the throttle.
I usually drive at a bit less than 65 miles per hour on the highway.
I do not brake hard.
I do not try to take corners at high speeds.
Off road I go nice and slow - off road I'm nearly always in low range - typically in "S" mode shifting between 2 and 3 mostly with the A-Trac ON (no wheel spinning at all.
Here in northern Nevada the trails are usually dry; silty, sandy, gravelly, rocky, continuously up and down. The weather varies between -18F and +90F.
Comparable BFG TA/KO in the past were more easily chunked tread blocks and tread cracks.
Conditions in all cases:
I tend to be light footed on the throttle.
I usually drive at a bit less than 65 miles per hour on the highway.
I do not brake hard.
I do not try to take corners at high speeds.
Off road I go nice and slow - off road I'm nearly always in low range - typically in "S" mode shifting between 2 and 3 mostly with the A-Trac ON (no wheel spinning at all.
Here in northern Nevada the trails are usually dry; silty, sandy, gravelly, rocky, continuously up and down. The weather varies between -18F and +90F.
calcrc
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Still sad about losing 1 inch overall on the sides with the 285/70r17 KO'S 2.
Would 305/65r17 KO'S 2 be overkill since they are smaller even if it says 285 or 305 on them ?
I know for a fact that diameter will be the same with the 305/65r17 compared to 285/70r17 from Duratracs.
Only issue might be the rubbing since they will be wider, I wonder by how much.
Would 305/65r17 KO'S 2 be overkill since they are smaller even if it says 285 or 305 on them ?
I know for a fact that diameter will be the same with the 305/65r17 compared to 285/70r17 from Duratracs.
Only issue might be the rubbing since they will be wider, I wonder by how much.
